A Spirit of Unbelief

[amigo de christo]

Yes. You are identifying consequences for acceptance or rejection of God.

So long as we understand something REAL CLEAR .
We both know that those who refuse to believe on JESUS as the CHRIST have rejected both GOD and CHRIST .
But here is something a lot of church goers know not .
DID YOU KNOW we can STILL be REJECTING BOTH GOD and HIS CHRIST even if we lip the name and claim the game .
THAT MY FRIEND IS SOMETHING FOLKS BETTER HURRY and LEARN .
AND LEARN REAL FAST . CAUSE I WAS KING OF THAT DUNG and was lost .

 

[amigo de christo]

HEY taken if we HEED NOT HIS SAYINGS , GUESS WHO WE REJECTED , GUESS what WE DENIED . THE FAITH .
and i think its high time folks LEARN and knew that too

 

[amigo de christo]

Help is needed?
I cannot create the first message.
Yours faithfully.

lets preach teach and point to CHRIST and all His doctrine and all biblical scriptures whereby one shall be made wise
unto salvation through faith in Christ .
Now raise those hands and praise the glorious LORD my friend .

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes. You are identifying consequences for acceptance or rejection of God.

He who believes not the testimony GOD gave of HIS SON , calleth GOD a liar .
And now a word
ALL LIARS shall have their part in the LAKE OF FIRE . i would defintely call that a heavy consequence , WOULDNT YOU .

 

[amigo de christo]

The muslim hugs , the buddist hugs , the jew hugs and many hug and do good works
BUT mark my words THAT WONT BE SAVING squat .
FOR he or she who believeth not the testimony that GOD gave of HIS SON , be calling GOD a liar .
JOHN KNEW far more than todays Churches do .

 

[Eternally Grateful]

It's his commentaries.

They are designed to keep Him away from the Grace of God.

This is always the case with people who are caught up in this type of self righteous net that he teaches.

See......Hebrews 13:9 ... is a MUST DO..... and He didnt do this FIRST., and he is now a victim of that verse, as it explains will happen.

Paul tells us that we MUST ESTABLISH our HEART In and with GRACE.

If we dont, then a heretic/cult will find us, and establish our heart instead in : works, water baptism, sacraments, commandment keeping, and trying to be (self) righteous.

It is also designed to keep others from Gods grace.

Like many charismatic leaders. they get a following and take them down with him..

Its called Pride

 

[Taken]

So long as we understand something REAL CLEAR .
We both know that those who refuse to believe on JESUS as the CHRIST have rejected both GOD and CHRIST .

Um I don’t believe those who refuse to believe on Jesus as the CHRIST have by default rejected God.

Historicallly per Scripture:
The Tribes were all calling themselves Jews.
The Jews were Divided on their Beliefs that Jesus is the Christ.

Remembering God IS Just.
Whatever a man Believes, God will give every man his hearts desire.
Many Believed in God, yet rejected Jesus is the Christ.
Regarding the Jews; Not much different to this day.
For nearly 2,000 years, God interjected His Justice giving the majority of Jews their hearts desire and their teaching to Reject Jesus as their Christ Messiah.
WHY? What was Gods purpose?
WHAT did God Observe?
** Gentiles flooding the (early believing Jews) field…street…and synagogue PREACHING of Jesus the Christ….
** AND Believing IN the Jewish GOD and His Christ Messiah which GOD sent; called JESUS.
** That became the TIME of the Gentiles to become INCLUDED in that which God had offered the Hebrews and Tribes, ie Becoming Gods People.

For centuries the Hebrews and Tribes have BELIEVED IN God AND His Word….(the Majority simply did not Believe Gods Word IS He who is called Jesus of Nazareth.)

ARE Jews who believe in God and Gods Word (even not believing Gods Word is Jesus…) SAVED”? YES! WHEN?
On the day of their PHYSICAL DEATH….(Unlike Converted Gentiles WHO become soul SAVED and spirit QUICKENED on the day they become Crucified with Jesus and become Baptized with Christ (the Holy Spirit of God).

For the last 2,000 years Gentiles have had an awaking, a revival of sorts….AND no doubt MANY Gentiles have busied themselves Twisting, Corrupting Gods Word into a plethora of wishy wishy nonsense.

There WILL be A HUGE revival in the Last Days, Of course some Gentiles will be Making their last minute decision to Stand FOR or Against the Lord God….
But Primarily the JEWS will in hoards Begin Converting IN Christ.

AND BTW, Gentiles preach a Convert IN Christ “IS” a Christian….
YET…many Gentiles who Believe and CALL themselves Christians….ARE NOT Converted.
AND….Jews who Believe Jesus IS the Christ and Have become Converted, do not Call themselves Christians…(rather calling themselves Messianic Jews).

But here is something a lot of church goers know not .

Probably quite a bit church goers do not know.

DID YOU KNOW we can STILL be REJECTING BOTH GOD and HIS CHRIST even if we lip the name and claim the game .
THAT MY FRIEND IS SOMETHING FOLKS BETTER HURRY and LEARN .
AND LEARN REAL FAST . CAUSE I WAS KING OF THAT DUNG and was lost .

Yes. A mans Lip service OF BELIEF can ORIGINATE from:
The thoughts of the MIND
OR
The thoughts of the HEART.

God is not interested in a declaration of Belief, FROM the mans MIND.
(Men relish in declarations of Belief, FROM a mans MIND)
Gods interest IS IN a mans declaration of Belief, FROM the mans HEART.

Glory to God,
God Bless brother,
Taken

 

[Lizbeth]

You have to realize that once you've lowered the standard of Christ to beliefs...or even being birthed in the Spirit...rather than a full-blown spiritual walk in the perfection of Christ by grace through faith...you have failed the grace of God.

So what if people are birthed in the Spirit. Is that enough? Is a free sample of grace the same as walking in the Spirit? Paul says...having begun in the Spirit, will you now be perfected through the power of the flesh? Will you try to build on the "Christ in you?" Whereby it is only the religious "you" being built upon...not Christ. So many live in an illusion. Many will try...and continue to think that a dilapidated shack of the outer man is actually a temple. It is wood, hay and stubble claiming to be gold, silver and precious stones. But that will not survive the test in fire. Few indeed will take their empty lamps to God and BUY the oil that brings the higher walk.

We need to go to God...go to the cross, and have our old shacks torn down and a new temple be built on the foundation which is Christ. Can we live in a foundation? OR...are we meant to build on what we have been given as a start?

I see a LOT of shacks...but little to no temple. No faith...just religious beliefs and vain "pointing" to a historic Jesus and what He did for the whole world. I see no disciples...just lip-service.

There should be more humility...more honesty. God will not be mocked.

Even your free sample allegory is a compartmentalization of things of the spirit. What we have received.....an indescribable gift...is nothing less than Christ in us the hope of glory. The bible says we are complete in Him, and it is from this deposit that the "balance owing" will spring up. Free sample allegory is your own and it falls short of the allegory we have been given by God, inspired by Him.

And the idea of the virgins' lamps is the idea of MAINTAINING them and paying the price to follow Jesus and be sowing to the spirit. Lamps had to be maintained, they had a small reservoir for the oil and had to be topped up often and the wicks trimmed. "Her lamp does not go out at night" in Proverbs....housewives had to rise at night and see to the lamp to keep it burning.....since that lamp was the source of the cooking and heating fire that had to be lit from it in the morning! (selah). Praise Jesus!

 

[Episkopos]

Even your free sample allegory is a compartmentalization of things of the spirit. What we have received.....an indescribable gift...is nothing less than Christ in us the hope of glory.

Yes...an indescribable gift of eternal consciousness and knowing who God is.

The bible says we are complete in Him,

You are jumping here. Paul wanted to win Christ AFTER he was converted. We have to take our deposit back to God to get the full measure. Read about the 10 lepers. Only one went back to Jesus. Is that optional? Why did Jesus say...where are the other 9?

and it is from this deposit that the "balance owing" will spring up.

This is false. The living water is always in Him...not us. When we enter INTO Christ THEN what is placed in us is activated.

You have to be IN Christ for the Christ in you to be activated. Otherwise you bring Christ into every sin. I think that's where you get your sinful holiness ideas from. But Jesus doesn't sin. In Him is no sin. You sin. Is Christ therefore a minister of sin?

So you are WAY off...a whole dimension off.

Free sample allegory is your own and it falls short of the allegory we have been given by God, inspired by Him.

That's how a sample works. Nabisco, for example, gives you a real sample of a real product. It's up to you if you go to where they sell Nabisco and buy the product.

I can give you thousands of parables/analogies because they are based on the truth. You can't give me even one of these that back up your claim that God is going to score your life by what you believe about Him.

And the idea of the virgins' lamps is the idea of MAINTAINING them and paying the price to follow Jesus and be sowing to the spirit.

The cost is to buy the whole product. Not just have a lamp. Look at the photo-copier industry. A free printer...but expensive ink.

Lamps had to be maintained, they had a small reservoir for the oil and had to be topped up often and the wicks trimmed. "Her lamp does not go out at night" in Proverbs....housewives had to rise at night and see to the lamp to keep it burning.....since that lamp was the source of the cooking and heating fire that had to be lit from it in the morning! (selah). Praise Jesus!

Sure, whatever.

 

[Lizbeth]

Yes...an indescribable gift of eternal consciousness and knowing who God is.



You are jumping here. Paul wanted to win Christ AFTER he was converted. We have to take our deposit back to God to get the full measure. Read about the 10 lepers. Only one went back to Jesus. Is that optional? Why did Jesus say...where are the other 9?

This is false. The living water is always in Him...not us. When we enter INTO Christ THEN what is placed in us is activated.

You have to be IN Christ for the Christ in you to be activated. Otherwise you bring Christ into every sin. I think that's where you get your sinful holiness ideas from. But Jesus doesn't sin. In Him is no sin. You sin. Is Christ therefore a minister of sin?

So you are WAY off...a whole dimension off.


That's how a sample works. Nabisco, for example, gives you a real sample of a real product. It's up to you if you go to where they sell Nabisco and buy the product.

I can give you thousands of parables/analogies because they are based on the truth. You can't give me even one of these that back up your claim that God is going to score your life by what you believe about Him.

The cost is to buy the whole product. Not just have a lamp. Look at the photo-copier industry. A free printer...but expensive ink.

Sure, whatever.

The carnal mind is of the flesh, it is fettered and limited and unable to perceive the things of the SPIRIT, thus can't help but keep compartmentalizing. It isn't one or the other......if Christ is in us (His Spirit) then we are in Him and vice versa. HIS SPIRIT is the indescribable gift. (Something more than a mere "consciousness", however it is by His Spirit that we became conscious of God.) Are you enamoured with your own thoughts for some reason...? Why not rather ask and rely on God to give you His light to illuminate HIS word. His word is all that is needed....but it needs to be lit up/enlightened by Him, His Spirit. We are to bring OUR thoughts CAPTIVE to His.

And again you compartmentalize how we are going to be judged and thereby diminish the importance of faith....James wrote that we are not justified by faith alone but also by works. So again it is both hand in hand, not one or the other. Works follow faith. Neither works alone or faith alone justifies. If we have faith let us show it by our fruits. You can't make a case for people having good works without faith in Christ being justified by that....because that isn't what the word of God teaches.

 

[Episkopos]

The carnal mind is of the flesh, it is fettered and limited and unable to perceive the things of the SPIRIT, thus can't help but keep compartmentalizing. It isn't one or the other......if Christ is in us (His Spirit) then we are in Him and vice versa. HIS SPIRIT is the indescribable gift. (Something more than a mere "consciousness", however it is by His Spirit that we became conscious of God.) Are you enamoured with your own thoughts for some reason...? Why not rather ask and rely on God to give you His light to illuminate HIS word. His word is all that is needed....but it needs to be lit up/enlightened by Him, His Spirit. We are to bring OUR thoughts CAPTIVE to His.

And again you compartmentalize how we are going to be judged and thereby diminish the importance of faith....James wrote that we are not justified by faith alone but also by works.

James is speaking about righteousness not holiness. The same kind of confusion existed in his day as now. Beliefs don't do anything. People judge others by their religious opinions. But faith moves God. Faith sees...faith does what is pleasing to God.

So again it is both hand in hand, not one or the other. Works follow faith. Neither works alone or faith alone justifies. If we have faith let us show it by our fruits. You can't make a case for people having good works without faith in Christ being justified by that....because that isn't what the word of God teaches.

You are stuck on religious beliefs which do nothing. You have to learn the difference between faith and beliefs. All religions work by beliefs. But Christianity works by faith...in what is unbelievable.

Beliefs are on the carnal level. Faith brings us into contact with God.

If God championed beliefs He would have praised the Pharisees. Even then He said...do as they say...not as they do. Is that what you are aiming for? As an example of what NOT to do...judge others...condemn those who don't put beliefs over actions...etc.

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes...an indescribable gift of eternal consciousness and knowing who God is.



You are jumping here. Paul wanted to win Christ AFTER he was converted. We have to take our deposit back to God to get the full measure. Read about the 10 lepers. Only one went back to Jesus. Is that optional? Why did Jesus say...where are the other 9?

This is false. The living water is always in Him...not us. When we enter INTO Christ THEN what is placed in us is activated.

You have to be IN Christ for the Christ in you to be activated. Otherwise you bring Christ into every sin. I think that's where you get your sinful holiness ideas from. But Jesus doesn't sin. In Him is no sin. You sin. Is Christ therefore a minister of sin?

So you are WAY off...a whole dimension off.


That's how a sample works. Nabisco, for example, gives you a real sample of a real product. It's up to you if you go to where they sell Nabisco and buy the product.

I can give you thousands of parables/analogies because they are based on the truth. You can't give me even one of these that back up your claim that God is going to score your life by what you believe about Him.

The cost is to buy the whole product. Not just have a lamp. Look at the photo-copier industry. A free printer...but expensive ink.

Sure, whatever.

Hey epi , you must have quickly forgot something .
I done told you i refuse to hear what any man or woman has to say , IF that man or woman DENIES the FACT
we must BELIEVE ON JESUS CHRIST .
YOU DENY that fact . So you could teach a mountain of stuff , I WONT BE HEEDING IT .
IF a man or a woman cannot even grasp the BASIC GOSPEL and rather DENIES IT
why would anyone then sit and continue to HEED or even listen to such a person .
The cart epi . You gotta remember the HORSE is what pulls the cart , WE DONT PULL THE HORSE IN THE CART .
The devil himself knows how to quote scripture . AS YOU PROBABLY WILL acknowledge to be true .
The devil can bring truths but beware the direction of where he is leading one by twisting them truths
to have folks believe the lie that CONTRADICTS CHRIST , GOD .
HORSE before the cart epi , not horse in the cart and we then pull the cart .
GOTTA PREACH N TEACH FOLKS TO FIRST BELIEVE ON JESUS AS THE CHRIST
cause you can preach all the aspects you want about the cross , BUT IF ONE BELIEVETH NOT ON HE WHO WAS CRUCIFIED
upon that cross , YEAH THAT WOULD BE JESUS CHRIST , TIS ALL VAIN and the end THE SECOND DEATH .
Dont be an enemy of CHRIST and of the gospel EPI . OPEN BIBLE , read bible and learn THAT JESUS .

 

[Episkopos]

Hey epi , you must have quickly forgot something .
I done told you i refuse to hear what any man or woman has to say , IF that man or woman DENIES the FACT
we must BELIEVE ON JESUS CHRIST .
YOU DENY that fact .

OK you are being simple here. You have an indoctrination...and you want to make imperatives without any kind of context...it's all just religious talk and bloviating.

Ex. You must brush your teeth...is an imperative. If you don't then what? You get cavities. Do you go to hell? Not necessarily

So you could teach a mountain of stuff , I WONT BE HEEDING IT .

I don't think you have the intellectual grasp of things to learn much of anything, truth be told. Your medium is NOT the written word. Maybe you do better in person? I know I do.

IF a man or a woman cannot even grasp the BASIC GOSPEL and rather DENIES IT

The simplistic ideological twisting of the bible you mean. The Pharisees understood the law the same way you understand grace.

why would anyone then sit and continue to HEED or even listen to such a person .

Do as you wish. Very few will understand the truth.

The cart epi . You gotta remember the HORSE is what pulls the cart , WE DONT PULL THE HORSE IN THE CART .
The devil himself knows how to quote scripture . AS YOU PROBABLY WILL acknowledge to be true .

I see you and others here misquoting scripture all the time. You don't even bother with scriptures though...you just want an ego fix. If you posted bible verses you couldn't get all the credit now, could you. You would have to share some of the limelight with God...and what does THAT do for the ego?

The devil can bring truths but beware the direction of where he is leading one by twisting them truths
to have folks believe the lie that CONTRADICTS CHRIST , GOD .
HORSE before the cart epi , not horse in the cart and we then pull the cart .
GOTTA PREACH N TEACH FOLKS TO FIRST BELIEVE ON JESUS AS THE CHRIST

That is your indoctrination that has no clue about anything. Explain anything from the bible...you can't. All you do is point and virtue-signal. You think a lack of intelligence or using the mind...is a bad thing. But we are to love God WITH the mind as well as the heart. Jesus spoke great mysteries. You understand nothing of these things...just keep bloviating about religious sounding sound bites. Well, you have your reward now.

cause you can preach all the aspects you want about the cross , BUT IF ONE BELIEVETH NOT ON HE WHO WAS CRUCIFIED
upon that cross , YEAH THAT WOULD BE JESUS CHRIST , TIS ALL VAIN and the end THE SECOND DEATH .
Dont be an enemy of CHRIST and of the gospel EPI . OPEN BIBLE , read bible and learn THAT JESUS .

You are an enemy of good sense and reason. Anything you say is of no value whatsoever. Why not just copy paste all your myriad of posts. When you need an ego fix...just press enter. All your hot air is just you justifying yourself for not having a clue how to have a basic conversation.

It's about reducing everything to a caveman level of religious affirmations....as if that was pleasing to God.

 

[amigo de christo]

The highly educated epi apparently aint heed the simple message . so allow me some parting words .
I do not take NOTES from anyone who DENIES the FACT WE MUST BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST .
Hopefully that is simple enough .

 

[Episkopos]

The highly educated epi apparently aint heed the simple message . so allow me some parting words .
I do not take NOTES from anyone who DENIES the FACT WE MUST BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST .
Hopefully that is simple enough .

You don't realize that you are in fact denying that very thing with your virtue-signalling lip self-service. I'm amazed that God hides His truth so well, so that the religious ideologues think the truth is offensive. God is ALL -WISE. Praise the Lord. <><

 

[L.A.M.B.]

Hey epi , you must have quickly forgot something .
I done told you i refuse to hear what any man or woman has to say , IF that man or woman DENIES the FACT
we must BELIEVE ON JESUS CHRIST .
YOU DENY that fact . So you could teach a mountain of stuff , I WONT BE HEEDING IT .
IF a man or a woman cannot even grasp the BASIC GOSPEL and rather DENIES IT
why would anyone then sit and continue to HEED or even listen to such a person .
The cart epi . You gotta remember the HORSE is what pulls the cart , WE DONT PULL THE HORSE IN THE CART .
The devil himself knows how to quote scripture . AS YOU PROBABLY WILL acknowledge to be true .
The devil can bring truths but beware the direction of where he is leading one by twisting them truths
to have folks believe the lie that CONTRADICTS CHRIST , GOD .
HORSE before the cart epi , not horse in the cart and we then pull the cart .
GOTTA PREACH N TEACH FOLKS TO FIRST BELIEVE ON JESUS AS THE CHRIST
cause you can preach all the aspects you want about the cross , BUT IF ONE BELIEVETH NOT ON HE WHO WAS CRUCIFIED
upon that cross , YEAH THAT WOULD BE JESUS CHRIST , TIS ALL VAIN and the end THE SECOND DEATH .
Dont be an enemy of CHRIST and of the gospel EPI . OPEN BIBLE , read bible and learn THAT JESUS .

That's exactly who he is, amigo, an enemy of Christ, the truth of God's word, and any believers of such.
I will love my enemies and pray for them but I will no longer sup with him.
I am blind to his garbage he collects, which he calls holiness and rejection of truth, and will see him no more!
Some refuse to be pulled from the fire to be saved.
To those whom are under his spell it is time to awaken.
Ephesians 5:14 - Wherefore he saith, AWAKE thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and CHRIST shall give thee light.

 

[Episkopos]

That's exactly who he is, amigo, an enemy of Christ, the truth of God's word, and any believers of such.
I will love my enemies and pray for them but I will no longer sup with him.
I am blind to his garbage he collects, which he calls holiness and rejection of truth, and will see him no more!
Some refuse to be pulled from the fire to be saved.
To those whom are under his spell it is time to awaken.
Ephesians 5:14 - Wherefore he saith, AWAKE thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and CHRIST shall give thee light.

See how they slander using the flesh of others to support their own flesh. You know a tree by its fruit.

I am slandered by unrighteous people. Righteous people question me directly...not gossip.

You could always use private messenger to gossip about me. If that satisfies your urge.

 

[Lizbeth]

Yes...an indescribable gift of eternal consciousness and knowing who God is.



You are jumping here. Paul wanted to win Christ AFTER he was converted. We have to take our deposit back to God to get the full measure. Read about the 10 lepers. Only one went back to Jesus. Is that optional? Why did Jesus say...where are the other 9?

This is false. The living water is always in Him...not us. When we enter INTO Christ THEN what is placed in us is activated.

You have to be IN Christ for the Christ in you to be activated. Otherwise you bring Christ into every sin. I think that's where you get your sinful holiness ideas from. But Jesus doesn't sin. In Him is no sin. You sin. Is Christ therefore a minister of sin?

So you are WAY off...a whole dimension off.


That's how a sample works. Nabisco, for example, gives you a real sample of a real product. It's up to you if you go to where they sell Nabisco and buy the product.

I can give you thousands of parables/analogies because they are based on the truth. You can't give me even one of these that back up your claim that God is going to score your life by what you believe about Him.

The cost is to buy the whole product. Not just have a lamp. Look at the photo-copier industry. A free printer...but expensive ink.

Sure, whatever.

I just don't have time to focus and try to unpack all this right now. Father died recently and daughter's wedding is in two weeks and I'm rather overwhelmed. Just will say you are still compartmentalizing and not preaching/teaching in the same vein and SPIRIT as did Jesus and the apostles. It's not the same gospel as theirs at all. When you deny the foundation you deny the only basis and source from which holiness comes.

 

[Lizbeth]

Ex. You must brush your teeth...is an imperative. If you don't then what? You get cavities. Do you go to hell? Not necessarily

Then you better bring the scriptures that teach what you are saying and which go along with your reasoning. Because what I read in the inspired word of God is that the wages of sin is death......and that there is a second death for those who die in their sins. What does the second death imply? "Fear Him who can destroy both body and SOUL in hades/hell." It simply means no eternal life. God is true to His word...death means death, as opposed to eternal life. Who can be exempt from the wages of sin apart from Christ? Who will not be hurt at all by the second death? Those who overcome by the BLOOD of the Lamb and the word of their TESTIMONY. The only way to have the blood of the lamb applied to us is through having a participation in the altar of His sacrifice by faith. If we don't drink His blood/eat His body we have no part with Him. And the only way to have a testimony of Christ is through receiving Him....someone who doesn't believe In Christ obviously cannot testify of Him.

Rev 2:11
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.
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Rev 20:6
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
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Rev 20:14
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
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Rev 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

There is a way in which God is sovereign in these things.....hence not all were appointed to eternal life, only those who He foreknew. The rest will not inherit eternal life but I believe will cease to exist at some point after being judged, much like the animals were not created or appointed to eternal life. We have the allegory of the animals being brought into the ark that Noah built...signifying lost souls being saved. Peter received the vision of unclean animals signifying Gentile souls that were lost but could be saved. It has even been prophesied that the devil will die like a man. Man without God is basically an animal species. The potential is there in man to become "as gods", but the only way there and to become "like the angels" and inherit eternal life is through Christ.

2Pe 2:12
But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
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Jde 1:10
But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

 

[ChristisGod]

So far so good.


This is religious mumbo jumbo, based on a scheme devised by Luther. Not biblical ...not apostolic.

The power of God through the cross is what WE experience to be set free from sin. The "finished work" is toward us who are crucified with Christ to be raised again to walk in His resurrection life.

Putting a human "trust" in what Jesus did...has no power. Believing in a historical event is not a bad thing...but it doesn't empower a person to be free from the power of sin. Only the experience of the power of the cross sets us free. Paul gloried in the cross because it set him free.

Gal. 6:14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.

Does Paul say he glories in the cross because that makes him forgiven in his ongoing bondage to sin??? Or is it rather glorying in the power of the cross that takes away the pull of this world on him?

Think with at least SOME honesty.

Jesus brings us to the Father as we enter INTO Him. The cross liberates us from the confines of our flesh....into divine fellowship with the Father. When we abide IN Christ we have a direct fellowship with God.

It’s the Resurrection not the cross. :)