The 144,000 before God at the end.

[TribulationSigns]

Dan 9:26-27
(26) And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
(27) And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

@covenantee

Here is my resposne to verse 26:

This is the warfare spoken of in Daniel 9. This is the flood (overflowing) upon Israel of which at the end of it, desolations are determined. As it was written, and as Jesus said, 'Behold, your house is left unto you desolate!' Don't be misled by the word flood, it's meaning can be seen in verses such as Isaiah 8:8, or Daniel 11:10. An excellent verse to get a feel for what this means is Daniel 11:26. When the Bible talks about an army, war, and the flood or overflowing. This is what is in view. It means it is a great overflowing army in this war. The armies are those who fought against Christ, and to the end of the war, they are left desolate and cut off, but to a remnant, he returns with Mercies.

Was there war at the cross? Indeed there was! When the Bible says that they were all against Christ, that is War. To be at enmity against Christ, is to be at war with Him. Just as to be reconciled in Christ, is to be at Peace with Him. The Flood is the overwhelming or overflowing of those who came against Christ. There was none that stood with Him. We see this in Messianic Psalms, such as:

Psalms 69:2

• "I sink in deep mire, where there is no standing: I am come into deep waters, where the FLOODS OVERFLOW Me. I am weary of crying: My throat is dry: Mine eyes fail while I wait for My God. They that hate me without a cause (John 15:25) are more than the hairs of Mine head: They that would destroy Me, being Mine enemies wrongfully are mighty:..."

This is the overflowing flood of the army that came against Christ, and which made an end of City and Sanctuary. It's those who fought against the Messiah, His Enemies, those who Hated Him. They were as a Flood. And they made war until the end, and desolations were determined. They are judged by God. Blindness had happened to them. The Prophet and the vision is sealed. In fact, the verse we saw in Acts 15 of rebuilding the tabernacle of David from it's ruins, is taken from the Book of Amos.

Amos 9:11

• "In that day I will raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old."

When Acts says this scripture is fulfilled (Acts 15:16) as it is written, it tells us that we don't have to look elsewhere for the fulfillment. It is fulfilled in Christ. Again, notice the language of verse 5 when talking about this judgment of Israel.

Amos 9:5

• "And the Lord God of hosts is He that toucheth the land, and it shall melt, and all that dwell therein shall mourn: and it shall rise up wholly like a FLOOD: and shall be drowned, as by the FLOOD of Egypt."

At the cross, Christ freed us from bondage to Satan just as God freed Israel from bondage to Pharaoh. And as the armies who fought against Israel were drowned then, so those who fight against Israel (Christ) at the cross come up like a flood, and are drowned in God's judgement. It is God who has left this city desolate because of their warfare with him. They would destroy the City and the Temple, and God will bring judgement upon them, and raise it up again in 3 days. He will build again the tabernacle that is fallen, and raise again the ruins, with living bricks. Merciful God returns with compassion, to the rebuilding of the tabernacle.

All happened at the Cross. Not 70AD! Verse 26 concerns the fall and desolation of OLD TESTAMENT CONGREGATION! Selah!

 

[TribulationSigns]

Dan 9:26-27
(26) And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
(27) And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

@covenantee

Now the verse 27 show that Christ (the SAME messiah the prince in context) confirmed a new covenant with NEW TESTAMENT CONGREGATON, the church! It has to do with the whole New Covenant period from the Cross to the COnsummation! The period SYMBOLICALLY celebrate the week of the Feast of Tabernalces (see the Feast of Tabernacles study link I posed earlier).
As stated, that word in Daniel 9 translated confirm in the KJV is [gabar], which 'is' the word strengthen. How was the Covenant made strong or Confirmed? It was confirmed by Christ going to the cross to put the muscle behind the Word promising Israel an inheritance. The people are the ones written on that will or agreement (Covenant). The body of Christ are the ones whom the promise of the Covenant was with. The Israel of God!

Galatians 3:17

• "And this I say, that the COVENANT, that was CONFIRMED before of God IN CHRIST, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect."

The Covenant was Confirmed "IN CHRIST" and is not made of non effect by the law. The promise was before the law. This Covenant, Confirmed [prokauroo] (made authoritative) by Christ's death on the cross cannot be disannuled. He is it's STRENGTH! His Death made it Authoritative! And So we see the confirmation of The Prince/Leader (Christ) to make this Covenant strong and authoritative is the cross. This is what Christ did, not anti-Christ. Antichrist never strengthens a Covenant, at least not according to scripture. All rhetoric aside, the only one who the Bible (not I) says 'confirmed' any Covenant is the Messiah. And the only one who the Bible (not I) says 'strengthened' a Covenant is Messiah. So who are we going to believe? Theologians, teachers, or the Bible? The New Covenant is the Covenant made strong in Christ's Blood. He gave it it's strength. Have you never read in Hebrews of how the New Testament (exact same word Covenant) was of 'no force' while the covenantor was still alive? But after He was dead (cut off), then it was strengthened. This is what is in view in daniel 9 prophesying Messiah strengthening the Covenant for many for one week.

Hebrews 9:16

• "For where a covenant is, there must also of necessity be the death of the covenantor. For a Covenant is of FORCE after men are dead: otherwise it is of no Strength at all while the covenantor liveth."

That's the Word of the Living God telling us that the New Covenant had no strength until Christ died on the cross, cut off for our sins. And then was it made strong! Christ Confirmed or made strong the Covenant for many in His blood. The Covenant is like a will. It's a promise or agreement to hand over an inheritance to Israel. The Messiah had to die in order for us to receive the inheritance in that will. This He did at the cross. He confirmed the Covenant with many (NOT ALL) for this one week. Again, logically and Biblically we see that this also proves that the length of the week is from the cross, to the end, because that is the time of the confirmed or strengthened Covenant with Messiah. The only Covenant confirmed or strengthened by anyone in scripture. The only one where we see this language used. The will Confirmed at the cross, the inheritance received at the end. The New Covenant with Israel that Messiah/Christ confirmed. The New Covenant or Testament Church. They are the same. But don't take my word for it. Read Hebrews chapter 8 and 9 carefully, and God makes that abundantly clear. Speaking of the New Testament with relationship to the old Testament, God says:

Hebrews 8:9

• "For finding fault with them, (the old Covenant) He saith, behold, the days come saith the Lord, when I will make a New Covenant with the house of ISRAEL and with the house of Judah:

Hebrews Chapter 8 and 9 make it clear the New Covenant with Israel is the New Covenant Church. I ask no one to accept my words, study these two chapters yourself. This is the Covenant confirmed, made authoritative, strengthened in Christ. And these chapters show the New Covenant is strengthened in Christ's blood for the Israel of God!

Look at this one week confirmed by the Prince, Messiah, in the light of what the scriptures have to say about it. For example, why does God symbolize this time from the cross to the end of the world as one week in which the Covenant is strengthened (Daniel 9)? The answer I believe can be found in looking at Israel, and the command that she observe the feast of tabernacles 'one week.' We know what the Passover feast pointed to. We know what the Feast of Firstfruits or Pentecost pointed to. But do you know what the Feast of Tabernacles points to? Now about the daily sacrifice...


Daniel 12:11-12

• "And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
  
  
• Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days."

This is when the daily or 'continual' shall be taken away. In the Midst of the week. And it's not at the Cross as some people believe. It is just before the Abomination of desolation. It's when the candlesticks are killed after the testimony of the two witnesses is finished (Rev. 11). When He (Christ) who restrains iniquity is taken out of the midst (2nd Thess 2). After all are sealed who are to be sealed (Rev. 7). In simple terms, it is after the fulness of the gentiles have come in, and all Israel is Saved. Then and only then is a final devastating judgment brought upon the unfaithful Church, a great departing from the faith (1st Timothy 4:1) where there is Apostasy and remaineth no sacrifice for salvation. For example, All Israel has been Saved, and no one else remains to be Saved. This did not occur in 70AD! It will be in our near future. And if this time of tribulation is not shortened, because no one else is being saved, there would not be any saved flesh left on earth. But for the sake of the Elect, these days shall be shortened.

The first half of this final week is the time, times and a half that we read about in Revelation 12. The Woman there gave birth to the Man Child (Christ) and she spent Time, Times and 1/2 (3 1/2) fed and nourished under the wings (Protection) of God, away from the face of the serpent. This is the first half of the week (see Rev. 11-12 studies) which has to do with faithful testimony of Salvation Gospel to the world. The Holy People (Christians with the Holy Spirit) are protected from the Serpent and fed until the time their testimony is finished. Finished when they have secured all Elect God wanted to seal has been sealed. Only God knows when. THEN at that time is the second half of the week. This is the midst (middle) when the other half of the week, the time, times, and 1/2 that is spoken of in Daniel 12 takes place. It's a time of great trial which God says 'will not end' until the power of the Holy People has been scattered (Dan. 12:7), then the End will come. The end is the consummation and the Second Coming. That's the end of the last week of Daniel chapter 9. Curious (not Really), That's "exactly" what 2nd Thessalonians 2 says. The end will not come except there come a apostasy first, and the Holy Temple will have abomination (a false god) seated in it. That's the scattering of the Holy People spoken about in Daniel. Nothing comes out consistently inconsistent like all these other ideas about this last week. But here we have total consistency with everything else that is written about these things. That's because it's true. We must seek to understand God's Word correctly. It's when we go from one verse to another and there is a contradiction (as with many other theories) that we know we know we have the wrong interpretation.

 

[rebuilder 454]

LOL! Noah was not removed from the flood. He floated... in a big boat, of course... through it... and in... more than a foot of water. His life was preserved. LOL! Jonah's story is similar to Noah's in several ways, although he was voluntarily thrown into the water, and God used... different means, of course ... to preserve his life.


In... your opinion.


I mean, he was certainly above the ground, yes. Far above it.

Grace and peace to you.

Genesis = noah left the earth.
You= nope bible is wrong.

 

[PinSeeker]

Genesis = noah left the earth.

Noah... left the ground... floated above the ground actually, in this wooden structure he built that nowadays we commonly call a boat. He was kept on/in the boat by this really weird natural phenomenon that, since the days of Isaac Newton, we call gravity.

Hey, question for you. Rhetorical, really... But in April of 1912, when the passengers of the Titanic "left the earth"... ... did God, like, drop them, and that's really why most of them died?

You= nope bible is wrong.

You're... not the Bible.

This is actually kind of fun...

Grace and peace to you.

 

[Timtofly]

But in April of 1912, when the passengers of the Titanic "left the earth".

They died when it returned to earth. God did not drop them. That was an iceberg.

So airplanes don't leave the earth until at least 2 miles high?

The only difference in buoyancy is the bond between hydrogen and oxygen, and perhaps a few more gasses thrown in there.

If the ark went through the Flood it would have been a submarine. It was above the Flood, and above the earth.

Even the wicked are removed from the earth during the GT. They are tossed into the fire. The only fire John mentions is that LOF. So no one, except those killed at Armageddon make it all the way to the end. Even the 2 witnesses, don't make it to the end. They are killed, resurrected after 3 days, and ascend to heaven. A few hours later is the battle of Armageddon.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Noah... left the ground... floated above the ground actually, in this wooden structure he built that nowadays we commonly call a boat. He was kept on/in the boat by this really weird natural phenomenon that, since the days of Isaac Newton, we call gravity.

Hey, question for you. Rhetorical, really... But in April of 1912, when the passengers of the Titanic "left the earth"... ... did God, like, drop them, and that's really why most of them died?


You're... not the Bible.

This is actually kind of fun...

Grace and peace to you.

Just know you got owned.
It happens to all of us.
We easily get off in logic.
The word of God brings us into alignment.
All i am doing is saying what the bible says.
You need to agree with it...not with me.
You don't see any red flags in doing what you are doing????
The BIBLE says he left the earth.
I know that somehow offends your doctrine to the core.
Remedy= change over to truth.
Men are misleading you into challenging the bible.

You are in control of that.

 

[rwb]

Just know you got owned.
It happens to all of us.
We easily get off in logic.
The word of God brings us into alignment.
All i am doing is saying what the bible says.
You need to agree with it...not with me.
You don't see any red flags in doing what you are doing????
The BIBLE says he left the earth.
I know that somehow offends your doctrine to the core.
Remedy= change over to truth.
Men are misleading you into challenging the bible.

You are in control of that.

This is insane! Noah left the earth, but he did NOT leave the water that covered the whole earth! Noah did not go up into the sky and nowhere from Scripture does it say he did.

 

[PinSeeker]

Pinseeker: in April of 1912, when the passengers of the Titanic "left the earth".​

They died when it returned to earth.

They died when the boat sank. The people drowned or froze to death. Are you really serious with this "left the earth" thing? Because if you are, you have yourself fooled beyond belief. LOL!

It was above the Flood, and above the earth.

Oh, so floating in the air... on a cloud, maybe... LOL!!!

No, floating on the water... And above the ground, for sure. Goodness gracious.

Even the wicked are removed from the earth during the GT.

Well, they will depart obediently, be sent away from the earth, at the final Judgment, yes.

They are tossed into the fire.

Symbolically speaking, yes.

So no one, except those killed at Armageddon make it all the way to the end. Even the 2 witnesses, don't make it to the end. They are killed, resurrected after 3 days, and ascend to heaven. A few hours later is the battle of Armageddon

I, uh... I see. Wow.

Grace and peace to you, Timtofly.

Just know you got owned.

Well no, but you're more than welcome to "think" whatever you like, Rebuilder.

All i am doing is saying what the bible says.

As I have said, everyone here thinks that. And just thinking or saying it does not make it true.

The BIBLE says he left the earth.

It says he was in the ark, floating on the water. Certainly, he was not on solid ground, and for many months.

I know that somehow offends your doctrine to the core.

You... think... it offends me, personally, I guess, but no. Listening to you ~ well, reading your words, anyway ~ leaves me quite incredulous as to how someone could read such a thing into Moses's narrative (and of course God's Word), though.

Men are misleading you into challenging the bible.

Again, you're welcome to your opinions; they bother me not.

Grace and peace to you, Rebuilder.

 

[PinSeeker]

This is insane! Noah left the earth, but he did NOT leave the water that covered the whole earth! Noah did not go up into the sky and nowhere from Scripture does it say he did.

LOL! I mean, any of us can jump up and down continuously (for a short time anyway) and thereby "leave the earth" over and over and over again... LOL!

I don't know about "insane," but this idea about Noah "leaving the earth" ~ as if he and his family and the animals were somehow "removed" or "transported" from the planet ~ is just absolutely ludicrous.

Grace and peace to you RWB.

 

[rebuilder 454]

This is insane! Noah left the earth, but he did NOT leave the water that covered the whole earth! Noah did not go up into the sky and nowhere from Scripture does it say he did.

Everything that ascends into the sky or into the atmosphere, does so by a power or a vehicle.
Uh, kinda like what happened with noah.
But the bible says he left the earth.
That is where I got it from.
It is a fact and truth that assaults your BELIEF.
A no brainer has you baffled.
Wow.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Kinda what we call painting ones self into the proverbial corner.
Also known as "condemnation before investigation."
Will bite you everytime.

 

[PinSeeker]

Everything that ascends into the sky or into the atmosphere, does so by a power or a vehicle.

By natural or man-made means, sure.

Uh, kinda like what happened with noah.

Agreed. By very natural means, he "left the earth."

But the bible says he left the earth. That is where I got it from.

What you have made it out to be is the issue.

A no brainer has you baffled.

Well, there are some things in this "conversation" that are certainly baffling, for sure.

Wow.

Wow indeed.

Grace and peace to you.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Fun fact; " the titanic DECENDED to the ocean floor"

Purpose driven theology error ; "it never descended, the top of the ocean is the same as the bottom. No difference. Your error is you are not into my "correct" doctrine"

Ok, you are free to be there in all your leaps and adjustments to the bible.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Hmm, did the ark descend to the earth after the flood?
Hmmmm.

 

[rebuilder 454]

By natural or man-made means, sure.


Agreed. By very natural means, he "left the earth."


What you have made it out to be is the issue.


Well, there are some things in this "conversation" that are certainly baffling, for sure.


Wow indeed.

Grace and peace to you.

Still fighting the truth.
It must be embarrassing
We can just pretend the ark did not go above the mountains.
Smily

 

[PinSeeker]

Fun fact; " the titanic DECENDED to the ocean floor"

It certainly did. That's what sunken boats/ships naturally do. It may take a while, like it did in the case of the Titanic, but they go under the water's surface and descend further and further underwater until they... hit the bottom. Yes. LOL! The Titanic actually broke in half, roughly ~ that darn gravity again ~ and the two pieces finally hit bottom, probably not at the same time, quite some distance apart.

Purpose driven theology error ; "it never descended, the top of the ocean is the same as the bottom. No difference.

...you are not into my "correct" doctrine

Right, and thank the Lord for that. You have no idea how appropriate it is that you put 'correct' in scare quotes there...

Ok, you are free to be there in all your leaps and adjustments to the bible.

Still fighting the truth.

Nope. Resting in it, actually.

It must be embarrassing

For your sake, sure.

We can just pretend the ark did not go above the mountains.

Well, you can if you want, but nobody with any sense would do such a thing...

Grace and peace to you, Rebuilder.

 

[covenantee]

@covenantee

Here is my resposne to verse 26:

This is the warfare spoken of in Daniel 9. This is the flood (overflowing) upon Israel of which at the end of it, desolations are determined. As it was written, and as Jesus said, 'Behold, your house is left unto you desolate!' Don't be misled by the word flood, it's meaning can be seen in verses such as Isaiah 8:8, or Daniel 11:10. An excellent verse to get a feel for what this means is Daniel 11:26. When the Bible talks about an army, war, and the flood or overflowing. This is what is in view. It means it is a great overflowing army in this war. The armies are those who fought against Christ, and to the end of the war, they are left desolate and cut off, but to a remnant, he returns with Mercies.

Was there war at the cross? Indeed there was! When the Bible says that they were all against Christ, that is War. To be at enmity against Christ, is to be at war with Him. Just as to be reconciled in Christ, is to be at Peace with Him. The Flood is the overwhelming or overflowing of those who came against Christ. There was none that stood with Him. We see this in Messianic Psalms, such as:

Psalms 69:2

• "I sink in deep mire, where there is no standing: I am come into deep waters, where the FLOODS OVERFLOW Me. I am weary of crying: My throat is dry: Mine eyes fail while I wait for My God. They that hate me without a cause (John 15:25) are more than the hairs of Mine head: They that would destroy Me, being Mine enemies wrongfully are mighty:..."

This is the overflowing flood of the army that came against Christ, and which made an end of City and Sanctuary. It's those who fought against the Messiah, His Enemies, those who Hated Him. They were as a Flood. And they made war until the end, and desolations were determined. They are judged by God. Blindness had happened to them. The Prophet and the vision is sealed. In fact, the verse we saw in Acts 15 of rebuilding the tabernacle of David from it's ruins, is taken from the Book of Amos.

Amos 9:11

• "In that day I will raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old."

When Acts says this scripture is fulfilled (Acts 15:16) as it is written, it tells us that we don't have to look elsewhere for the fulfillment. It is fulfilled in Christ. Again, notice the language of verse 5 when talking about this judgment of Israel.

Amos 9:5

• "And the Lord God of hosts is He that toucheth the land, and it shall melt, and all that dwell therein shall mourn: and it shall rise up wholly like a FLOOD: and shall be drowned, as by the FLOOD of Egypt."

At the cross, Christ freed us from bondage to Satan just as God freed Israel from bondage to Pharaoh. And as the armies who fought against Israel were drowned then, so those who fight against Israel (Christ) at the cross come up like a flood, and are drowned in God's judgement. It is God who has left this city desolate because of their warfare with him. They would destroy the City and the Temple, and God will bring judgement upon them, and raise it up again in 3 days. He will build again the tabernacle that is fallen, and raise again the ruins, with living bricks. Merciful God returns with compassion, to the rebuilding of the tabernacle.

All happened at the Cross. Not 70AD! Verse 26 concerns the fall and desolation of OLD TESTAMENT CONGREGATION! Selah!

Matthew Henry doesn't concur.

"Providence soon determined this controversy (which is the only thing that seemed a controversy between the Old Testament and the New) by the destruction of Jerusalem, the desolations of the temple, the dissolution of the temple-service, and the total dispersion of all the remains of the Jewish nation, with a judicial defeat of all the attempts to incorporate it again, now for above 1600 years; and this according to the express predictions of Christ, a little before his death."

 

[TribulationSigns]

Matthew Henry doesn't concur.

"Providence soon determined this controversy (which is the only thing that seemed a controversy between the Old Testament and the New) by the destruction of Jerusalem, the desolations of the temple, the dissolution of the temple-service, and the total dispersion of all the remains of the Jewish nation, with a judicial defeat of all the attempts to incorporate it again, now for above 1600 years; and this according to the express predictions of Christ, a little before his death."

Frankly, I could care less about "traditional views" of men, as I have said here many times. In fact, I make it a point to say up-front that I don't follow any man's tradition, eschatology or otherwise. Be the traditions of Luther, Calvin, Matthew Henry, Adam Whatz-his-name, or any of the other people you noted. And we really don't need a history lesson of their views because I believe that "this forum" is not for discussing traditions, it is a biblical forum for discussing doctrines from a "biblical" perspective, and with a defense made from the Bible.

Could this be the well-oiled "obligatory Straw man" that inevitably seems to crop up when one's views are challenged? All I'm interested in is "what does the Bible say" in harmony with itself, "versus" what you have put forth for our consideration. No smoke screens, no traditions, no history lessons, no commentary. I'm not interested in Calvin's eschatology, Henry's eschatology, or Josephus's eschatology. I spend my time in the Bible, not in those commentaries you mentioned. And so as a result I get a more Biblical, rather than Traditional view.

And I see that you have not refuted my biblical doctrine with Scripture yet from YOU!

 

[covenantee]

Frankly, I could care less about "traditional views" of men, as I have said here many times. In fact, I make it a point to say up-front that I don't follow any man's tradition, eschatology or otherwise. Be the traditions of Luther, Calvin, Matthew Henry, Adam Whatz-his-name, or any of the other people you noted. And we really don't need a history lesson of their views because I believe that "this forum" is not for discussing traditions, it is a biblical forum for discussing doctrines from a "biblical" perspective, and with a defense made from the Bible.

Could this be the well-oiled "obligatory Straw man" that inevitably seems to crop up when one's views are challenged? All I'm interested in is "what does the Bible say" in harmony with itself, "versus" what you have put forth for our consideration. No smoke screens, no traditions, no history lessons, no commentary. I'm not interested in Calvin's eschatology, Henry's eschatology, or Josephus's eschatology. I spend my time in the Bible, not in those commentaries you mentioned. And so as a result I get a more Biblical, rather than Traditional view.

And I see that you have not refuted my biblical doctrine with Scripture yet from YOU!

Adam Clarke doesn't concur.

"This chapter contains a prediction of the utter destruction of the city and temple of Jerusalem, and the subversion of the whole political constitution of the Jews; and is one of the most valuable portions of the new covenant Scriptures, with respect to the evidence which it furnishes of the truth of Christianity. Every thing which our Lord foretold should come on the temple, city, and people of the Jews, has been fulfilled in the most correct and astonishing manner; and witnessed by a writer who was present during the whole, who was himself a Jew, and is acknowledged to be an historian of indisputable veracity in all those transactions which concern the destruction of Jerusalem. Without having designed it, he has written a commentary on our Lord's words, and shown how every tittle was punctually fulfilled, though he knew nothing of the Scripture which contained this remarkable prophecy."

Commentary on Matthew 24

 

[TribulationSigns]

Adam Clarke doesn't concur.

"This chapter contains a prediction of the utter destruction of the city and temple of Jerusalem, and the subversion of the whole political constitution of the Jews; and is one of the most valuable portions of the new covenant Scriptures, with respect to the evidence which it furnishes of the truth of Christianity. Every thing which our Lord foretold should come on the temple, city, and people of the Jews, has been fulfilled in the most correct and astonishing manner; and witnessed by a writer who was present during the whole, who was himself a Jew, and is acknowledged to be an historian of indisputable veracity in all those transactions which concern the destruction of Jerusalem. Without having designed it, he has written a commentary on our Lord's words, and shown how every tittle was punctually fulfilled, though he knew nothing of the Scripture which contained this remarkable prophecy."

Commentary on Matthew 24

Again, not interested in the commentary. Where is YOUR OWN Scriptural refutation? If your best defense is to quote a man's opinion without actually refuting my post directly with your scripture knowledge, then perhaps you're not a Bible student after all.