NEWSFLASH: Abraham was not a Jew. Neither was Isaac. Neither was Jacob.

[Eternally Grateful]

And I showed you how everlasting circumcision was.

God's promises are to and for His faithful and obedient.

None others.

God is not a racist.

Stop trying to contort Him into one.

I could care less about circumcision. Circumcision was Given to abraham and his descendents as a sign of his agreement between himself and then.

it never saved them, it never was intended to save them,

And it is still valid today to those same descendents. As a sign.

And I will remind you one more time to stop lieing about what I say. I never called God a racist, he was not a racist when he gave abraham the land, and he is not a racist when he gives it back to them

He saved the whole world

If you can not discuss the word without lieing about the one you’re discussing with. Why are you here? You just hurt your own testimony

 

[covenantee]

15 Brethren, I speak in the manner of men: Though it is only a man’s covenant, yet if it isconfirmed, no one annuls or adds to it. 16 Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “And to your Seed,” who is Christ.

This concerns the promise, In you shall all nations of the world be blessed.

Not I give you and your descendents after you this land..

You can say I have no idea what I am saying all you want.. it does not make you correct.

The last I checked, God promised Abraham land. It was one of God's promises.

Which God physically fulfilled in Joshua 21:43.

Galatians 3:16 refers to the promises without qualification. It does not say "except the land promise".

It includes all promises.

Consistent with 2 Corinthians 1:20.

Consistent with Hebrews 1:1,2.

Et al.

 

[ewq1938]

Actually part of the abrahamic covenant did have to do with the removal of sin.

Quote that specific part.

All the nations of the world are blessed because Christ came to save the world

So? That isn't law regarding remove of sin as part of that covenant. It first appeared in the covenant with Israel.

The mosaic covenant could never take away sin.

False.

Lev_4:20 And he shall do with the bullock as he did with the bullock for a sin offering, so shall he do with this: and the priest shall make an atonement for them, and it shall be forgiven them.

Lev_4:26 And he shall burn all his fat upon the altar, as the fat of the sacrifice of peace offerings: and the priest shall make an atonement for him as concerning his sin, and it shall be forgiven him.

Lev_4:35 And he shall take away all the fat thereof, as the fat of the lamb is taken away from the sacrifice of the peace offerings; and the priest shall burn them upon the altar, according to the offerings made by fire unto the LORD: and the priest shall make an atonement for his sin that he hath committed, and it shall be forgiven him.

Lev_5:10 And he shall offer the second for a burnt offering, according to the manner: and the priest shall make an atonement for him for his sin which he hath sinned, and it shall be forgiven him.

Lev_5:13 And the priest shall make an atonement for him as touching his sin that he hath sinned in one of these, and it shall be forgiven him: and the remnant shall be the priest's, as a meat offering.

Lev_19:22 And the priest shall make an atonement for him with the ram of the trespass offering before the LORD for his sin which he hath done: and the sin which he hath done shall be forgiven him.

Num_15:25 And the priest shall make an atonement for all the congregation of the children of Israel, and it shall be forgiven them; for it is ignorance: and they shall bring their offering, a sacrifice made by fire unto the LORD, and their sin offering before the LORD, for their ignorance:

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The last I checked, God promised Abraham land. It was one of God's promises.

Which God physically fulfilled in Joshua 21:43.

Galatians 3:16 refers to the promises without qualification. It does not say "except the land promise".

It includes all promises.

Consistent with 2 Corinthians 1:20.

Consistent with Hebrews 1:1,2.

Et al.

You need to study more

12 Now the Lord had said to Abram:

“Get out of your country,
From your family
And from your father’s house,
To a land that I will show you.
2 I will make you a great nation;
I will bless you
And make your name great;
And you shall be a blessing.
3 I will bless those who bless you,
And I will curse him who curses you;
And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”

This is what Gal 3 is talking about

Land never saved anyone.

 

[covenantee]

I could care less about circumcision. Circumcision was Given to abraham and his descendents as a sign of his agreement between himself and then.

it never saved them, it never was intended to save them,

And it is still valid today to those same descendents. As a sign.

And I will remind you one more time to stop lieing about what I say. I never called God a racist, he was not a racist when he gave abraham the land, and he is not a racist when he gives it back to them

He saved the whole world

If you can not discuss the word without lieing about the one you’re discussing with. Why are you here? You just hurt your own testimony

The expression is "I couldn't care less". Look it up.

You're welcome.

Circumcision has utterly no validity in God's sight, unless you disbelieve Romans 2:28,29 et al.

You repeatedly refer to Israel racially as the offspring of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

That's racism, because Israel was comprised of both Jews and Gentiles from its birth and throughout its history. Genesis 17:12 et al.

God slew Israelites who rebelled, including Jews, by the thousands.

So don't talk racially. It's a lie.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Quote that specific part.

12 Now the Lord had said to Abram:

“Get out of your country,
From your family
And from your father’s house,
To a land that I will show you.
2 I will make you a great nation;
I will bless you
And make your name great;
And you shall be a blessing.
3 I will bless those who bless you,
And I will curse him who curses you;
And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”

So? That isn't law regarding remove of sin as part of that covenant. It first appeared in the covenant with Israel.

do tell how can nations be blessed apart from the removal of sin?

False.

Lev_4:20 And he shall do with the bullock as he did with the bullock for a sin offering, so shall he do with this: and the priest shall make an atonement for them, and it shall be forgiven them.

Lev_4:26 And he shall burn all his fat upon the altar, as the fat of the sacrifice of peace offerings: and the priest shall make an atonement for him as concerning his sin, and it shall be forgiven him.

Lev_4:35 And he shall take away all the fat thereof, as the fat of the lamb is taken away from the sacrifice of the peace offerings; and the priest shall burn them upon the altar, according to the offerings made by fire unto the LORD: and the priest shall make an atonement for his sin that he hath committed, and it shall be forgiven him.

Lev_5:10 And he shall offer the second for a burnt offering, according to the manner: and the priest shall make an atonement for him for his sin which he hath sinned, and it shall be forgiven him.

Lev_5:13 And the priest shall make an atonement for him as touching his sin that he hath sinned in one of these, and it shall be forgiven him: and the remnant shall be the priest's, as a meat offering.

Lev_19:22 And the priest shall make an atonement for him with the ram of the trespass offering before the LORD for his sin which he hath done: and the sin which he hath done shall be forgiven him.

Num_15:25 And the priest shall make an atonement for all the congregation of the children of Israel, and it shall be forgiven them; for it is ignorance: and they shall bring their offering, a sacrifice made by fire unto the LORD, and their sin offering before the LORD, for their ignorance:

Hebrews 10:4
For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins

Heb 10 11 And every priest stands ministering daily and offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12 But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, 13 from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool. 14 For by one offering He has perfected forever
those who are being [d]sanctified.

don’t make the same mistakes the jews made

 

[covenantee]

You need to study more

12 Now the Lord had said to Abram:

“Get out of your country,
From your family
And from your father’s house,
To a land that I will show you.
2 I will make you a great nation;
I will bless you
And make your name great;
And you shall be a blessing.
3 I will bless those who bless you,
And I will curse him who curses you;
And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”

This is what Gal 3 is talking about

Land never saved anyone.

You need to stop imposing your arbitrary private interpretations on Scripture.

There is nothing excluding the land in Galatians 3:16, just as in 2 Corinthians 1:20 or Hebrews 1:1,2.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The expression is "I couldn't care less". Look it up.

You're welcome.

Circumcision has utterly no validity in God's sight, unless you disbelieve Romans 2:28,29 et al.

I never said it did, Paul said To add it to the gospel was to teach a false gospel. And called the jews in Galatia fools for trying to add it

Thats not why God told abraham to b e circumcised in the first place..

You repeatedly refer to Israel racially as the offspring of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

They are, Jacob is Israel,. His 12 sons are called the 12 tribes of Israel or the nation of Isreal

That's racism,

So calling a race by its name is racist? Lol

because Israel was comprised of both Jews and Gentiles from its birth and throughout its history. Genesis 17:12 et al.

No it was not.

Israel was the 12 sons of Jacob. And their children, and their children’s children,

Non of them were gentiles.. They were called isreal after their fathers name change

God slew Israelites who rebelled, including Jews, by the thousands.

So don't talk racially. It's a lie.

Yep he did, and he will do it many more times, as well as many gentiles. In fact he will destroye many gentiles for treating Israel bad while they took care of them

Don’t lie about me and bear false witness.. And don’t lie about the word.. God will not take to kindly for that

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You need to stop imposing your arbitrary private interpretations on Scripture.

There is nothing excluding the land in Galatians 3:16, just as not in 2 Corinthians 1:20 or Hebrews 1:1,2.

You catholic?

that would explain alot

Gal 3 has nothing to do with land, they recieved the land LONG before christ

NO one recieved the promise of Gal 3 until christ.

 

[covenantee]

No it was not.

Genesis 17
12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.

What does not of thy seed mean?

 

[covenantee]

You catholic?

that would explain alot

Gal 3 has nothing to do with land, they recieved the land LONG before christ

NO one recieved the promise of Gal 3 until christ.

That in no way precludes the land from being included in Galatians 3:16, just as it is not precluded in 2 Corinthians 1:20 or Hebrews 1:1,2.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

He owuld be a foreigner who lives in the land, if they wanted to be part of that covenant that had to do it.

But the land was given to HIS SEED..

many gentiles were allowed in and took part of the blessings which came with it

But it was never promised or given to ANY gentile Nation

 

[Eternally Grateful]

That in no way precludes the land from being included in Galatians 3:16, just as it is not precluded in 2 Corinthians 1:20 or Hebrews 1:1,2.

Lol. Whatever,

When you are returned to th eland of Israel and live in peace as God promised. Then let me know..

 

[covenantee]

Lol. Whatever,

When you are returned to th eland of Israel and live in peace as God promised. Then let me know..

I have immeasurably better than that awaiting me.

Hebrews 11
16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I have immeasurably better than that awaiting me.

Hebrews 11
16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

Well I am not sure

But God keeps his promises

Whether you think he does or not. But He does.

So believe what you want. i will believe in Christ.

Ps. Do you believe in eternal security? Just trying to get a consensus

 

[covenantee]

But the land was given to HIS SEED..

To Christ.

 

[covenantee]

Well I am not sure

But God keeps his promises

Whether you think he does or not. But He does.

So believe what you want. i will believe in Christ.

Ps. Do you believe in eternal security? Just trying to get a consensus

Not when I read this.
It is not easy to fall away. God will hold you hard and long.
But it is possible.
Salvation does not eliminate free will.

Hebrews 6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Hebrews 10
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

To Christ.

Christ did not come for 2000 years after they were given the land

come on man.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Not when I read this.
It is not easy to fall away. God will hold you hard and long.
But it is possible.
Salvation does not eliminate free will.

Hebrews 6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Hebrews 10
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Just as I thought

Its amazing that everyone I know who does not believe God is not bound keep his promise to abrahams decendents (Israel) does not believe God is bound to keep his promise to us either.

God just says, i will do this.. But maybe not..

 

[covenantee]

Christ did not come for 2000 years after they were given the land

come on man.

Leviticus 25
23 The land shall not be sold for ever: for the land is mine, for ye are strangers and sojourners with me.

Do you think that Christ was dead during that time?

Go on man.