Victor Davis Hanson~ Subject: "The coup we never knew!"

[Big Boy Johnson]

If you are not caught up, you have sand in your ears.

You really think politics is more important than the Gospel???

If so, that would mean you have something else in yo ears and it ain't sand!

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

You really think politics is more important than the Gospel???

If so, that would mean you have something else in yo ears and it ain't sand!

If you cannot understand the tie in of politics and religion from Satans stand especially with what is going on
in Israel right now....

No one said more important.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

I didn't say it wasn't related.

But, the Gospel is not about saving or changing the world and making governments act right.

You'll notice in the Book of Acts that the early church was not trying to change the roman government... they were busy preaching the gospel and were not deceived by the devil to depart from this God given mandate in to getting political to try and change the world.

Christians are not called to social justice... that's a trick of the devil to turn us away from preaching the gospel and making disciples.

 

[Peterlag]

I didn't say it wasn't related.

But, the Gospel is not about saving or changing the world and making governments act right.

You'll notice in the Book of Acts that the early church was not trying to change the roman government... they were busy preaching the gospel and were not deceived by the devil to depart from this God given mandate in to getting political to try and change the world.

Christians are not called to social justice... that's a trick of the devil to turn us away from preaching the gospel and making disciples.

You are right on Big Boy. I however, am concerned that if Trump gets into huge election fraud again that the Obama government will come after Christians since he's more with Islam than anyone else.

 

[Cassandra]

More like Commie Barrack Obama and friends are running things behind the scenes, and Ole Joe Biden turned out to be their disaster of a puppet?

You have zero evidence of that. And how about the other group of MAGAts thinking that trump is secretly running the country? I tell ya, its enough to make one want to drink.

 

[Cassandra]

If you cannot understand the tie in of politics and religion from Satans stand especially with what is going on
in Israel right now.... View attachment 38907

No one said more important.

Jesus wasn't political.
I firmly believe politics and religion will unite under extremist fundamentalists. that is what Revelation talks about.
But you know how it ends and you were told before what was to occur.
I have sever problem with mr trump and his hate filled jargon. However, i think he was placed in power by the Lord to stir up anger between people. The hate came out "bigly" in 2016.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

You are right on Big Boy. I however, am concerned that if Trump gets into huge election fraud again that the Obama government will come after Christians since he's more with Islam than anyone else.

Well, the roman government heavily persecuted the early church and somehow it resulted in more people getting saved since the early church had no opportunity to live on easy street.

Maybe that's what the modern church in the US needs is to be booted off of easy street.

You have zero evidence of that.

The country getting darker every day thanks for Joe Bribem and his father the devil!

politics and religion will unite under extremist fundamentalists.

But it won't be conservatives... it'll be liberals bringing their father the devil to power thru the ant-christ

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

You have zero evidence of that. And how about the other group of MAGAts thinking that trump is secretly running the country? I tell ya, its enough to make one want to drink.

Any links you can provides?

There are those that have Barry as the puppet master setting things up for michelle being Kamala's VP then they will oust her and we will have 8 more years of Islam Obama

If the Donald was running the country... is he also setting himself up for all those bogus charges?

 

[Peterlag]

Well, the roman government heavily persecuted the early church and somehow it resulted in more people getting saved since the early church had no opportunity to live on easy street.

Maybe that's what the modern church in the US needs is to be booted off of easy street.




The country getting darker every day thanks for Joe Bribem and his father the devil!






But it won't be conservatives... it'll be liberals bringing their father the devil to power thru the ant-christ

In those days they had the Word of God. Today we don't have that. We now have only what the Catholics taught us.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

In those days they had the Word of God. Today we don't have that. We now have only what the Catholics taught us.

Most churches are teaching false doctrine and people just believe whatever they are told without doing their own study.

But, we still have access to God's Word if one is willing to get in to the original greek and hebrew as we need to

God always has a remnant that is true to Him and that would not be possible if there was literally now way to know God's Truth.

 

[Peterlag]

Most churches are teaching false doctrine and people just believe whatever they are told without doing their own study.

But, we still have access to God's Word if one is willing to get in to the original greek and hebrew as we need to

God always has a remnant that is true to Him and that would not be possible if there was literally now way to know God's Truth.

I have done that and am considered far and few between. Most have no clue because the Catholic doctrine is in the culture and in the non-catholic churches. Much of the Roman Catholic doctrine was assimilated into Protestantism and is still being passed along as Christian groups continue to split off from one another. In a nutshell that is why even the independent church in your neighborhood today most probably believes that there is a trinity, dead people are alive, God is in control of everything that happens, the Four Gospels are written to Christians, and water baptism is relevant. And then there's everything that you know about our sin nature was taught to you by them.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

probably believes that there is a trinity

1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Pretty hard to explain away something scripture clearly tells us which is... One is Three, and the Three are One.

Just like the word rapture is not in scripture... trinity isn't in scripture either but that does not mean there is not God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost as we see scripture speaking of each throughout the New Testament... and yet, these 3 are One.

dead people are alive

2 Corinthians 5:8
We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord

No, we cannot talk to people that die as the catholics believe, but that doesn't mean they are not alive... they are alive with Jesus in God's presence if they were born again and endured their entire lives abiding in Christ when they croaked

 

[Cassandra]

Well, the roman government heavily persecuted the early church and somehow it resulted in more people getting saved since the early church had no opportunity to live on easy street.

Maybe that's what the modern church in the US needs is to be booted off of easy street.




The country getting darker every day thanks for Joe Bribem and his father the devil!






But it won't be conservatives... it'll be liberals bringing their father the devil to power thru the ant-christ

Nope. It will be the evangelicals trying to unite and under a Christian nation, but it wont be. If the doctrines don't mesh, it doesn't work.
I would think the son of the devil would be someone who tries to overthrow the govt because they are upset they didnt get their way, and who calls for executions. You want to persecute others? My, the love of the Lord is so evident in you.

 

[L.A.M.B.]

Man o man, it is so easy to see whom does NOT do independent study of the word but rather espouse what their leaders or the media tells
them !

 

[Gabriel _Arch]

Subject: "The coup we never knew!"​

Questions that need to be answered, regardless of one's political party...





Did someone or something seize control of the United States?



What happened to the U.S. border? Where did it go? Who erased it? Why and how did 5 million people enter our country illegally? Did Congress secretly repeal our immigration laws? Did President Joe Biden issue an executive order allowing foreign nationals to walk across the border and reside in the United States as they pleased?



Since when did money not have to be paid back? Who insisted that the more dollars the federal government printed, the more prosperity would follow? When did America embrace zero interest? Why do we believe $30 trillion in debt is no big deal?



When did clean-burning, cheap, and abundant natural gas become the equivalent to dirty coal? How did prized natural gas that had granted America's wishes of energy self-sufficiency, reduced pollution, and inexpensive electricity become almost overnight a pariah fuel whose extraction was a war against nature? Which lawmakers, which laws, which votes of the people declared natural gas development and pipelines near criminal?



Was it not against federal law to swarm the homes of Supreme Court justices, to picket and to intimidate their households in efforts to affect their rulings? How then with impunity did bullies surround the homes of Justices Brett Kavanaugh, Samuel Alito, Amy Coney Barrett, Neil Gorsuch, John Roberts, and Clarence Thomas – furious over a court decision on abortion? How could these mobs so easily throng our justices' homes, with placards declaring "Off with their d—s"?



Since when did Americans create a government Ministry of Truth? And on whose orders did the FBI contract private news organizations to censor stories it did not like and writers whom it feared?



How did we wake up one morning to new customs of impeaching a president over a phone call? Of the speaker of the House tearing up the State of the Union address on national television? Of barring congressional members from serving on their assigned congressional committees?



When did we assume the FBI had the right to subvert the campaign of a candidate it disliked? Was it legal suddenly for one presidential candidate to hire a foreign ex-spy to subvert the campaign of her rival?



Was some state or federal law passed that allowed biological males to compete in female sports? Did Congress enact such a law? Did the Supreme Court guarantee that biological male students could shower in gym locker rooms with biological women? Were women ever asked to redefine the very sports they had championed?



When did the government pass a law depriving Americans of their freedom during a pandemic? In America can health officials simply cancel rental contracts or declare loan payments in suspension? How could it become illegal for mom-and-pop stores to sell flowers or shoes during a quarantine but not so for Walmart or Target?



Since when did the people decide that 70 percent of voters would not cast their ballots on Election Day? Was this revolutionary change the subject of a national debate, a heated congressional session, or the votes of dozens of state legislatures?



What happened to Election Night returns? Did the fact that Americans created more electronic ballots and computerized tallies make it take so much longer to tabulate the votes?



When did the nation abruptly decide that theft is not a crime, assault not a felony? How can thieves walk out with bags of stolen goods, without the wrath of angry shoppers, much less fear of the law?



Was there ever a national debate about the terrified flight from Afghanistan? Who planned it and why?



What happened to the once trusted FBI? Why almost overnight did its directors decide to mislead Congress, to deceive judges with concocted tales from fake dossiers and with doctored writs? Did Congress pass a law that our federal leaders in the FBI or CIA could lie with impunity under oath?



Who redefined our military and with whose consent? Who proclaimed that our chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff could call his Chinese Communist counterpart to warn him that America's president was supposedly unstable?



Was it always true that retired generals routinely libeled their commander-in-chief as a near Nazi, a Mussolini, an adherent of the tools of Auschwitz?



Were Americans ever asked whether their universities could discriminate against their sons and daughters based on their race? How did it become physically dangerous to speak the truth on a campus? Whose idea was it to reboot racial segregation and bias as "theme houses," "safe spaces," and "diversity"? How did that happen in America?



How did a virus cancel the Constitution? Did the lockdowns rob of us of our sanity? Or was it the "woke" hysteria that ignited our collective madness?



We are beginning to wake up from a nightmare to a country we no longer recognize, and from a coup we never knew!



Victor Davis Hanson is the Martin and Illie Anderson Senior Fellow in Residence in Classics and Military History at the Hoover Institution, a professor of classics emeritus at California State University at Fresno, and a nationally syndicated columnist for Tribune Media Services.

Great post.

Those who are behind the globalist agenda. Kissinger,though not anymore,thank God. Klaus Schwab, George Soros, Bill Gates, and others.

All we can do is hang on. I foresee another oxymoron in American history, a Civil War.

In fact I think that is the purpose behind our current criminal,illegal, political construct.
When everything reaches the right boiling point and it goes off, Big Brother will declare martial law. For the purpose and in the name of, peace and control.

Then the fools who screamed for a Socialist system to supplant our Constitutional Democratic Republic will get to experience enslavement to government through our dependency on it so to exist.

I see that as what is behind the Federal push for EV's,Electric Vehicles. And the rumblings behind a future ban on Fossil fuels conveyances.

We'll live by allotment. Electricity rationed. Travel limited. Food,limited. Water access too.

All according to our government designation that we should have taken as a warning during the Covid-19 social experiment lockdown as essential workers.

Non-essential? Kissinger's, Useless Eaters, would be declared as a (pardon the pun) tax on the system. Especially the infirm elderly and the terminally I'll and handicapped.

What happens to them? When we are being led to believe natural resources are not as prevalent as in generations past? Global warming is destroying ecosystems. Food supplies are in short supply.

One social experiment in deep prohibition has been undertaken in Israel for years.
Palestinian peoples are forbidden to construct water wells. If someone breaks that law the IDF destroys the well and the homeowner is punished.
If Palestinians want to survive in the desert they pay their water bill generated by Israel.

Years ago news arrived around the country from time to time regarding wells,rain, and rainbarrels.

One state tried to put a tax on rainwater runoff. The claim was its erosion impact on the environment.

Rainbarrels were forbidden in another state local EPA agents would trespass on any property where a rainbarrel was seen or reported by neighbors.

Rainbarrel violators were fined. Refuse to pay and a lien could be placed on the homeowners property. They could lose their home if they remained defiant.


Remember during Covid lockdown people were told to call authorities if they witnessed someone violating the lockdown and leaving their home.

Remember when interstate travel,crossing into another state from your home state, was forbidden. The call to report out of state tags to authorities. Remember the threats against houses of worship? Particularly Christians,the foremost faith population in America.

An overreach of local and federal government. I think all those events and more were a test to gauge compliance should martial law go into effect.

It's going to be a bumpy ride.

I can see why some think we're in the prophesied beginning of sorrows.

 

[Gabriel _Arch]

1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Pretty hard to explain away something scripture clearly tells us which is... One is Three, and the Three are One.

Just like the word rapture is not in scripture... trinity isn't in scripture either but that does not mean there is not God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost as we see scripture speaking of each throughout the New Testament... and yet, these 3 are One.





2 Corinthians 5:8
We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord

No, we cannot talk to people that die as the catholics believe, but that doesn't mean they are not alive... they are alive with Jesus in God's presence if they were born again and endured their entire lives abiding in Christ when they croaked .

That could be why early Pagans,and some today,think Christianity and our God is weird. He's three but he's the only one.
Try the Greek version.

 

[Peterlag]

1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Pretty hard to explain away something scripture clearly tells us which is... One is Three, and the Three are One.

Just like the word rapture is not in scripture... trinity isn't in scripture either but that does not mean there is not God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost as we see scripture speaking of each throughout the New Testament... and yet, these 3 are One.





2 Corinthians 5:8
We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord

No, we cannot talk to people that die as the catholics believe, but that doesn't mean they are not alive... they are alive with Jesus in God's presence if they were born again and endured their entire lives abiding in Christ when they croaked

You must be new to the Bible to say that it's "Pretty hard to explain away something scripture clearly tells us which is... One is Three, and the Three are One."

Those words in 1 John 5:7 are not found in any Greek manuscript before the 15th or 16th century and in no ancient versions.

And if the dead are already alive then why is Christ coming back to raise the dead.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Nope. It will be the evangelicals

Look around... the only "evangelicals" that are globalists are the liberals that falsely claim to be Christians

The globalists have infiltrated the church and are setting up a one world religion which is ecumenical where they claim all religions lead to God... which is what Billy Graham started teaching

True Christians aren't globalists and are not involved with trying to bring the entire world under one world government, it's the liberals that support murdering babies and that support all manner of sexual perversion. In the US that are known as democrats who have even convinced some repubs to be globalists making those repubs to be RINOs

Those words in 1 John 5:7 are not found in any Greek manuscript before the 15th or 16th century and in no ancient versions.

And if the dead are already alive then why is Christ coming back to raise the dead.

That's false... it's been in the majority text all along.

Even it it hadn't been... have you seen all the scripture verses that speak of the Father?
Have you seen all the scripture verses that speak of the Son?
Have you seen all the scripture verses that speak of the Holy Ghost?

Kinda hard to explain all that away. You must be new to the bible!

Jesus is coming back to raise the physical bodies from the dead.

Our resurrection is not complete until our physical body is raised from the dead and glorified like Jesus' Body was glorified.

There's no such thing as soul sleep as you suppose.

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

Jesus wasn't political.
I firmly believe politics and religion will unite under extremist fundamentalists. that is what Revelation talks about.
But you know how it ends and you were told before what was to occur.
I have sever problem with mr trump and his hate filled jargon. However, i think he was placed in power by the Lord to stir up anger between people. The hate came out "bigly" in 2016.

No, but Jesus did say render unto Caesar.... which meant more then paying taxes.... and GOD THE FATHER is very involved when He says in Romans 13:1

Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God.

NOW... here is the question.

How does God establish those people?

Does He rig a voter machine?

Does He change a ballot?

OR

Maybe He uses His children to work from the ground?

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

That could be why early Pagans,and some today,think Christianity and our God is weird. He's three but he's the only one.
Try the Greek version.

LOL, and add in the tripartite man.

"the spirit and the soul and the body" (τὸ πνεῦμα καὶ ἡ ψυχὴ καὶ τὸ σῶμα)