gay christians?

[amigo de christo]

There is that saying by man. And then there is this saying from Scripture:

Obey those who rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account. Let them do so with joy and not with grief, for that would be unprofitable for you.

MORMON , JW , ADVENTIST , BAPTIST , and any other name you would like me to bring
can quoate the same scrip you just did , YET APPLY IT THEIR OWN FALSE LEADERS .
I AINT EVER gonna sit under the RCC , nor any of them either . THEY SOLD OUT .
POWER and control , agendas and love of money .
DONT think for a second i think there should be NO LEADERSHIP in the church and that the church ought not to HEED IT and OBEY them .
THE PROBLEM IS , WOLVES ARE and have devoured the flocks and yet they all lip the same thing
come ye and sit under OUR LEADERS , OUR SCHOLARS and yet THEY TEACH DECEPTOIN .
SORRY but that reminder DONT APPLY TO FALSE LEADERS , ONLY TO THE TRUE ONES . and the RCC AINT IT .

 

[Mink57]

There was the saying "Trust but verify" but online it is best termed "Do NOT trust and do verify". As an example, #24 on the Rosary. Is the date of 1090 AD wrong? Was the Rosary invented prior to that date? Here is a quick research to verify -

This list of inventions and heresies is to point out the date they were invented. The Wikipedia gives the date as 1090 "invented by Peter the Hermit". The statement with the references are as follow:

"There is also a strong and old tradition that Peter the Hermit was the first to introduce the use of the Rosary.[19][20] It follows that he began this tradition in about 1090.[26]"

(19)Thomas Dudley Fosbroke, British Monachism; Or, Manners and Customs of the Monks and Nuns of England (etc.) 3. Ed (John Bowyer Nichols, 1843)p 317.

(20)William Hurd, A New Universal History of the Religious Rites, Ceremonies, and Customs of the Whole World: Or, A Complete and Impartial View of All the Religions in the Various Nations of the Universe Both Ancient and Modern, from the Creation Down to the Present Time: To which is Added, a Geographical Description of the Various Parts, the Religious Rites and Ceremonies of Whose Inhabitants are Described, (J. Hemingway, 1799) p255.

(26) Peter the Hermit at Britanica online.

I do not find the Roman Catholic articles online give any evidence that the Rosary existed prior to 1090 AD. Here are a couple web sites by Roman Catholics about the Rosary -

The Rosary & St. Dominic

In Defense of A Tradition

rosarycenter.org

St. Dominic and the Rosary

The gift of the Rosary has been traditionally attributed to St. Dominic. The meditation and promises attached to the prayers have perduring and everlasting graces for all of Mary's children.

www.catholic365.com

The list I posted referred to the dates of invention and I find no evidence that he was wrong about the Rosary, #24. I've looked at more than the two Roman Catholic links above and do not find any dates for the Rosary in the earlier centuries, or earlier than 1090 AD.

It takes time to research online, but this is just one example to illustrate the accuracy of the list. I encourage the reader to do his own research on various issues in the list. It is odd this discussion came about in a thread about gay Christians.

Saying The Rosary was "invented" would be like saying that Bill Gates "invented" the computer I'm using. Many "inventions" go through a process, and the process can consist of bits and pieces that came into being before the 'final' product.

There is evidence to show that prayer 'beads' were in existence long before 1090 a.d. The prayers attached to the Rosary were in existence long before 1090. The Apostles Creed...the Hail Mary...Our father...even the Sign of the Cross were in existence long before 1090. It's not as if Peter the Hermit woke up one day and said, "Hmmm...think I'll invent the Rosary today!"

You also quoted that there is "strong and old tradition that Peter the Hermit was the first to introduce the use of the Rosary." I would challenge that statement. While there may be "strong and old tradition" that he used the Rosary, it doesn't necessarily mean that he invented the Rosary.

Take the first claim from Boettner's list: "1. Prayers for the dead: began about A.D. 300." I know that Marymog reported that prayers for the dead was mentioned in 2 Maccabees around 40 a.d. But 2 Maccabees was actually written between 150-100 b.c. So, some Jewish sects were already praying for the dead well before 300 a.d.

You mentioned that ya gotta do research, but the problem is, that too many people don't research to the source.

 

[Gabriel _Arch]

hmmm...

Scripture plainly teaches that:

Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day.

For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.

Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him.

What truly astonishes me, however, is that so many here accuse Catholics of having no faith when we actually believe Jesus' words while so many others seek to explain them away with various sophistries..

Merry Christmas!

I think when your institution sustains the anathema decree as applied to the 5 Solas, you are then consigned to accept that first.
Because the institution then weaves
a tapestry around that decree so to incorporate the five cursed points only if the institution was in control. Which is why "Sola" was made anathema.

Faith without the church, institution,cannot be. That is simply untrue.

 

[amigo de christo]

Well done.

I believe Leviticus 18:22 removes any ambiguity.

Leviticus 18:22 Parallel: Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

biblehub.com

Translations from Aramaic
Peshitta Holy Bible Translated
And do not lie down with a male in the lying down of a woman, because it is defiled.

Lamsa Bible
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; because it is an abomination.

In Genesis God said to Adam and Eve, be fruitful and multiply. All creatures in God's world are made male and female to do that very thing.

This Biological function is never possible between same sex partners engaged in sexual congress.

Too often our society will arrive at a point where we presume to play God.

Activism that seeks to have society concede the unnatural sex act of same sex intercourse, the mental illness that displays as Trans sexuality, is acceptable by different means,the law, official policy, asks for , even demands, tolerance . And yet is intolerant of faith and commonsense that refuses to agree God made a mistake.

YES it does my friend . and here is a huge huge huge reminder from even the new testament .
Before i say it , i have to ask a question . HOW OFTEN do you hear the WORD love today .
A LOT . they will quote parts of the charity chapter , YET BELIEVE ME NOT ALL OF IT DO THEY QUOATE .
What is the one thing we are told is greatest of all . CHARITY .
then , however , the dark rainbow all inclusive pile of crap doctrine tries to imply
certain sins are now love , and any religoin aka path to GOD is fine , well so long as they got this lovey do all inclusive crap .
BUT LETS , let SCRIPTURE DESTROY the FALSE LOVE LIE FOREVER .
WHAT is it about CHARITY .
I mean if even paul said IF I GAVE even all of my goods away and yet had NOT CHARITY , IT PROFITS ME NOT A THING FOLKS
SO charitiy aint just the simple act of giving food or etc to the poor . THOUGH that is part of it .
WHAT IS IT ABOUT CHARITY that differs so HUGE from what the WORLD thinks and sees as love as charity .
THIS IS .
CHARITY DONT REJOICE IN INQUITY PEROID . IT REJOICES ONLY < ONLY IN TRUTH .
IT dont behave itself UNSEEMINGLY . notice it says CHARITY , LOVE , dont behave itself UNSEEMINGLY .
WAIT FOR IT , WAIT FOR it my friend cause i am gonna show us something in romans one
that would forever PROVE SOMETHING AINT CHARITY , IT AINT LOVE .
Read the FIRST chapter and YOU LOOK REAL HARD for the WORD UNSEEMINGLY .
As so too did the man leave the natural use of the woman
and burned in their lust one towards another , man with man working that which is UNSEEEMING and LY . OOPS
SOMEONE IS LYING TO US DUDE . GOD WILL NEVER HONOR gay marriage peroid .
ITS UNSEEMINGLY and THUS IT AINT CHARITY . SO GO ahead all inclusive rainbow love many path to GOD LIE love
TAKE A BITE OUT of that BURGER OF TRUTH . YES i am wore out with false love lies that save none and damn all .

 

[amigo de christo]

"With God ALL things are possible..."

YES. cept HE CANT LIE . thus any and all who love a lie , AINT OF HIM . try and remember that
the next time one comes to set up a rainbow in the church or bring a koran in or etc . THAT AINT LOVE ITS ALL A LIE AND IT DAMNS .

 

[Gabriel _Arch]

YES it does my friend . and here is a huge huge huge reminder from even the new testament .
Before i say it , i have to ask a question . HOW OFTEN do you hear the WORD love today .
A LOT . they will quote parts of the charity chapter , YET BELIEVE ME NOT ALL OF IT DO THEY QUOATE .
What is the one thing we are told is greatest of all . CHARITY .
then , however , the dark rainbow all inclusive pile of crap doctrine tries to imply
certain sins are now love , and any religoin aka path to GOD is fine , well so long as they got this lovey do all inclusive crap .
BUT LETS , let SCRIPTURE DESTROY the FALSE LOVE LIE FOREVER .
WHAT is it about CHARITY .
I mean if even paul said IF I GAVE even all of my goods away and yet had NOT CHARITY , IT PROFITS ME NOT A THING FOLKS
SO charitiy aint just the simple act of giving food or etc to the poor . THOUGH that is part of it .
WHAT IS IT ABOUT CHARITY that differs so HUGE from what the WORLD thinks and sees as love as charity .
THIS IS .
CHARITY DONT REJOICE IN INQUITY PEROID . IT REJOICES ONLY < ONLY IN TRUTH .
IT dont behave itself UNSEEMINGLY . notice it says CHARITY , LOVE , dont behave itself UNSEEMINGLY .
WAIT FOR IT , WAIT FOR it my friend cause i am gonna show us something in romans one
that would forever PROVE SOMETHING AINT CHARITY , IT AINT LOVE .
Read the FIRST chapter and YOU LOOK REAL HARD for the WORD UNSEEMINGLY .
As so too did the man leave the natural use of the woman
and burned in their lust one towards another , man with man working that which is UNSEEEMING and LY . OOPS
SOMEONE IS LYING TO US DUDE . GOD WILL NEVER HONOR gay marriage peroid .
ITS UNSEEMINGLY and THUS IT AINT CHARITY . SO GO ahead all inclusive rainbow love many path to GOD LIE love
TAKE A BITE OUT of that BURGER OF TRUTH . YES i am wore out with false love lies that save none and damn all .

There are so called gay Christian websites,forums. There are so called gay churches.

Without exception their membership claim the clobber verses,that of Leviticus,are OT and no longer apply. Because Immanuel-Jesus did not reiterate them in the New.

As if God needs to say it again because there's an expiration date upon his decree. And since Immanuel didn't repeat himself anew, nothing from there applies today.

God created man and woman to reproduce their own kind. That's today the same biological fact as it was in the beginning.

Homosexual sexual contact is ab-normal to that biological designation.And unnatural. The human body is not made to receive gay penetration .

Many say God is the same yesterday,today,forever. God does not change. Yet it is implied,because He does not repeat something said in his Older covenant, He no longer prosecutes nor sustains his prior rulings.

There's a gay Bible. Did you know this?
The Queen James.lt omits the clobber verses and normalizes homosexuality and transsexualism.

When we will answer for every word,those authors are going to be quite busy for quite awhile.

All they need do is show where God approves homosexuality in his original word.

Satan's leading us to act isn't God decreeing the act approved in God's eyes.

 

[Mr E]

The Church of Saints Peter and Paul.... Catholics must be so proud of their progressive work!

"I wanted to show with this scene that families are no longer just the traditional ones," said Father Vitaliano Della Sala of the Church of Saints Peter and Paul.

 

[Mink57]

The Church of Saints Peter and Paul.... Catholics must be so proud of their progressive work!

"I wanted to show with this scene that families are no longer just the traditional ones," said Father Vitaliano Della Sala of the Church of Saints Peter and Paul.


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What do you think is 'wrong' with this?

 

[amigo de christo]

There are so called gay Christian websites,forums. There are so called gay churches.

Without exception their membership claim the clobber verses,that of Leviticus,are OT and no longer apply. Because Immanuel-Jesus did not reiterate them in the New.

As if God needs to say it again because there's an expiration date upon his decree. And since Immanuel didn't repeat himself anew, nothing from there applies today.

God created man and woman to reproduce their own kind. That's today the same biological fact as it was in the beginning.

Homosexual sexual contact is ab-normal to that biological designation.And unnatural. The human body is not made to receive gay penetration .

Many say God is the same yesterday,today,forever. God does not change. Yet it is implied,because He does not repeat something said in his Older covenant, He no longer prosecutes nor sustains his prior rulings.

There's a gay Bible. Did you know this?
The Queen James.lt omits the clobber verses and normalizes homosexuality and transsexualism.

When we will answer for every word,those authors are going to be quite busy for quite awhile.

All they need do is show where God approves homosexuality in his original word.

Satan's leading us to act isn't God decreeing the act approved in God's eyes.

Men do as men do, but i remind us all the sheep gonna do as JESUS says to do.
Many can qoate the word love like a parrot all day .
BUT SEEM TO FORGET that love DONT TRANSGRESS the law , it would have FULLFILLED THE LAW .
man with man IS STILL SIN and any love that tries to say or make it okay , ONLY TRANGRESSES THE LAW , IT DONT FULLFILL .
THERE IS NO GRACE that cometh of GOD that would trangress
WHY DID GOD FIND FAULT with them . WHY . FOR FINDING FAULT WITH THEM
HE said I WILL MAKE A NEW COVENANT . what was their fault . EXACTLY .
THE LOVE that cometh of GOD WOULD HAVE HONORED GOD . IT WOULD never dishonor GOD
make void HIS WORDS . THE FLESH Indeed was the problem . BUT IN CHRIST .........................I REST MY CASE .
GOD DIDNT MAKE THE NEW COVENANT SO AS WE COULD CONTINUIE IN SIN AND LOVE SIN and EMBRACE SIN .
THEY ALREADY DIDALL THAT and GOD WAS WORE OUT WITH IT . just wore out .
SO HOW COME TODAYS LOVE and TODAYS SO CALLED NEW COVENANT comes to NOW allow us
TO NOT ONLY CONTINUE AS THE OLD MAN IN SIN < HECK it even JUSTIFIES SAID SIN .
SOMETHING WENT DEAD WRONG in the christain realm my friend. AND BOY do i mean DEAD as is DEATH WRONG .

 

[Mr E]

What do you think is 'wrong' with this?

The idea that you think there’s nothing wrong with it, is what’s wrong with it.

 

[marks]

The Church of Saints Peter and Paul.... Catholics must be so proud of their progressive work!

"I wanted to show with this scene that families are no longer just the traditional ones," said Father Vitaliano Della Sala of the Church of Saints Peter and Paul.


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Will he next declare that Jesus was trans? Isn't that what's next?

Much love!

 

[Traveler]

 

[amigo de christo]

Will he next declare that Jesus was trans? Isn't that what's next?

Much love!

some already are ..................SAD FACT . this world aint gonna make it much longer on the path it is on .
AND BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY GOD HAS INDEED BEEN VERY VERY LONGSUFFERING .
BUT HIS WRATH WILL COME . we better get busy pointing to CHRIST and reminding the churches OF BIBLICAL SOUND DOCTRINE .
cause MARK , mark my words , TIME IS RUNNING OUT . In a blink , in a moment , in the twinkling of an eye
in an hour and a day known to NONE , cometh THE SON . TIME IS RUNNING OUT MARK . I cannot stress that enough either .
TIME IS RUNNING OUT . WHEN CHRIST COMETH FOR HIS OWN , SIE LEFT BEHIND SHALL WAIL as never they wailed before .
AINT ONE SOUL gonna wanna be on that wail train either .

 

[amigo de christo]

The idea that you think there’s nothing wrong with it, is what’s wrong with it.

EFFEMINATE MEN now run the show . i never seen a generation where the women have become as men
and the men as women . GUESS far too many men got far too IN TOUCH with their so called feminie side .

 

[Mr E]

Will he next declare that Jesus was trans? Isn't that what's next?

Much love!

Della Sala suggested his views align with Pope Francis, who signed off earlier this month on "Fiducia Supplicans," a controversial declaration from the Vatican's Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith that allows for "spontaneous pastoral blessing" for "same-sex couples" and other couples in "irregular situations."

 

[Rockerduck]

I like this verse.

Malachi 3:6 - “I am the Lord, and I do not change.

 

[Traveler]

Just so you know the current Pope is described as the last Pope in Catholic tradition and is called the black Pope.

When it comes to all this new doctrine what we are looking at is the great falling away. All the predictions that mark the end times are now starting to come about.

 

[amigo de christo]

The Church of Saints Peter and Paul.... Catholics must be so proud of their progressive work!

"I wanted to show with this scene that families are no longer just the traditional ones," said Father Vitaliano Della Sala of the Church of Saints Peter and Paul.


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guess he forgot GOD honors no such family . when effiminate inclusive men rule
the doctrine they bring plays the fool .

 

[St. SteVen]

I like this verse.

Malachi 3:6 - “I am the Lord, and I do not change.

What it means... and what it doesn't mean.

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[Mink57]

The idea that you think there’s nothing wrong with it, is what’s wrong with it.

The fact that you didn't answer my question is typical. Basically you said, "Well if YOU don't know, I'M not going to tell you!"...

...as if I'm stupid for now knowing what's inside your head.

So, I'll ask you ONCE MORE...What's wrong with it?