Understanding the Prophecy of 70 Weeks

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So let us look at the two points you made in two separate statements = which are indeed connected.

Your 1st Statement is 'spot on' = there is a play of words here if you get it, and it is 100% accurate = TRUTH

Your 2nd statement is CORRECT in the opening assessment, however the pieces have been 'put together' for us(another play on words).

Conclusion: without receiving and yielding to the Holy Spirit = "no one now is likely to put the pieces together" = TRUTH

Important TRUTH = A + B = C
A.) Just as the Body of Christ is 'corporate/many members' so also is the 'man of sin'
B.) Just as Christ is the Head of His Body so also will there be the rise of the "son of perdition" who is the head of his body, which is appointed to wrath for the coming Day of Wrath = 1 Thessalonians and 2 Thessalonians

C.) Christ's 2nd Coming = 1 Thess 1:10 , 1 Cor ch15 , 2 Thess ch2 , Hebrews 9:28 , 1 John 3:1-3 and more TRUTH

Peace to you my Brother @ScottA
 
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So let us look at the two points you made in two separate statements = which are indeed connected.

Your 1st Statement is 'spot on' = there is a play of words here if you get it, and it is 100% accurate = TRUTH

Your 2nd statement is CORRECT in the opening assessment, however the pieces have been 'put together' for us(another play on words).

Conclusion: without receiving and yielding to the Holy Spirit = "no one now is likely to put the pieces together" = TRUTH

Important TRUTH = A + B = C
A.) Just as the Body of Christ is 'corporate/many members' so also is the 'man of sin'
B.) Just as Christ is the Head of His Body so also will there be the rise of the "son of perdition" who is the head of his body, which is appointed to wrath for the coming Day of Wrath = 1 Thessalonians and 2 Thessalonians

C.) Christ's 2nd Coming = 1 Thess 1:10 , 1 Cor ch15 , 2 Thess ch2 , Hebrews 9:28 , 1 John 3:1-3 and more TRUTH

Peace to you my Brother @ScottA

The two (individuals) have already been named: "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive"...But don't let the past/present/post tense fool you. Time is an illusion ;)
 

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And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,Even until the consummation, which is determined,Is poured out on the desolate.”
On the wing of abominations, multiple abominations, shall be one (Satan), who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, is poured out on the Desolator.

This means Satan is giving his power, his throne and his great authority to the composite beast.

This is happening right now before our eyes.

JUST IN, HELL HAS FROZEN OVER!!! Pope says priests can bless same-sex unions, requests should not be subject to moral analysis


Check out the comment section,

"This is exactly how I know that we are in the end times ....​
"This is what happens just before civilizations are consumed by fire..​

Even people on a news forum know it.

ROME (AP) — Pope Francis formally approved letting Catholic priests bless same-sex couples, the Vatican announced Monday, a radical shift in policy that aimed at making the church more inclusive while maintaining its strict ban on gay marriage.

So they have a strict ban on sodomite marriage, but the priest will turn around and give them his blessing. Lol.

On the wing of abominations.

Brace for the consummation, the Desolator must know that he has but a short time.
 
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The two (individuals) have already been named: "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive"...But don't let the past/present/post tense fool you. Time is an illusion ;)
Please make the illusion go away = i am 62 and prefer to be 22
 
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On the wing of abominations, multiple abominations, shall be one (Satan), who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, is poured out on the Desolator.

This means Satan is giving his power, his throne and his great authority to the composite beast.

This is happening right now before our eyes.

JUST IN, HELL HAS FROZEN OVER!!! Pope says priests can bless same-sex unions, requests should not be subject to moral analysis


Check out the comment section,

"This is exactly how I know that we are in the end times ....​
"This is what happens just before civilizations are consumed by fire..​

Even people on a news forum know it.

ROME (AP) — Pope Francis formally approved letting Catholic priests bless same-sex couples, the Vatican announced Monday, a radical shift in policy that aimed at making the church more inclusive while maintaining its strict ban on gay marriage.

So they have a strict ban on sodomite marriage, but the priest will turn around and give them his blessing. Lol.

On the wing of abominations.

Brace for the consummation, the Desolator must know that he has but a short time.
"Pope says priests can bless same-sex unions, requests should not be subject to moral analysis..."

Well the RCC priests/popes have been practicing this with children and nuns for a very long time.

They are the latest to 'come out of the closet' of perversion = at just the right time!

But in accordance with your hardness and your impenitent heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, who “will render to each one according to his deeds”:
Romans 2:5
 
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"Pope says priests can bless same-sex unions, requests should not be subject to moral analysis..."

Well the RCC priests/popes have been practicing this with children and nuns for a very long time.

They are the latest to 'come out of the closet' of perversion = at just the right time!
I know they have David, for a very long time. But it's the time right now that concerns me. And the amplitude of multiple abominations.

On the wing of abominations. Wing, Extremity, Edge.

The furthest point or limit of something.

The extreme degree or nature of something.

The high degree. The intensity. The magnitude.

When the transgressors have reached their limit.

They are pushing the envelope.

Can you imagine, even in the 50's, what people would think if they knew we would have pediatric gender affirming clinics?

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I know they have David, for a very long time. But it's the time right now that concerns me. And the amplitude of multiple abominations.

On the wing of abominations. Wing, Extremity, Edge.

The furthest point or limit of something.

The extreme degree or nature of something.

The high degree. The intensity. The magnitude.

When the transgressors have reached their limit.

They are pushing the envelope.

Can you imagine, even in the 50's, what people would think if they knew we would have pediatric gender affirming clinics?

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Very astute and 100% accurate my Brother = Excellent Post = thank you
 

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On the wing of abominations, multiple abominations, shall be one (Satan), who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, is poured out on the Desolator.

This means Satan is giving his power, his throne and his great authority to the composite beast.

This is happening right now before our eyes.

JUST IN, HELL HAS FROZEN OVER!!! Pope says priests can bless same-sex unions, requests should not be subject to moral analysis


Check out the comment section,

"This is exactly how I know that we are in the end times ....​
"This is what happens just before civilizations are consumed by fire..​

Even people on a news forum know it.

ROME (AP) — Pope Francis formally approved letting Catholic priests bless same-sex couples, the Vatican announced Monday, a radical shift in policy that aimed at making the church more inclusive while maintaining its strict ban on gay marriage.

So they have a strict ban on sodomite marriage, but the priest will turn around and give them his blessing. Lol.

On the wing of abominations.

Brace for the consummation, the Desolator must know that he has but a short time.
He is basically doing the same deception as at the beginning, saying that he is giving what God says and twisting it...

Genesis 3:1
Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
 

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On the wing of abominations, multiple abominations, shall be one (Satan), who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, is poured out on the Desolator.

This means Satan is giving his power, his throne and his great authority to the composite beast.

This is happening right now before our eyes.

JUST IN, HELL HAS FROZEN OVER!!! Pope says priests can bless same-sex unions, requests should not be subject to moral analysis


Check out the comment section,

"This is exactly how I know that we are in the end times ....​
"This is what happens just before civilizations are consumed by fire..​

Even people on a news forum know it.

ROME (AP) — Pope Francis formally approved letting Catholic priests bless same-sex couples, the Vatican announced Monday, a radical shift in policy that aimed at making the church more inclusive while maintaining its strict ban on gay marriage.

So they have a strict ban on sodomite marriage, but the priest will turn around and give them his blessing. Lol.

On the wing of abominations.

Brace for the consummation, the Desolator must know that he has but a short time.
Couldn't resist posting this one.

Even the rope a pope's own people, namely a leading archbishop in the Bergoglian church, are critical of his decision, but this guy really nails it:

“The delirious Declaration Fiducia Supplicans, recently published by the parody of the former Holy Office renamed the Dicastery, definitively pierces the veil of hypocrisy and deception of the Bergoglian hierarchy, showing these false shepherds for what they really are: servants of Satan and his most zealous allies, beginning with the usurper who sits – an abomination of desolation – on the Throne of Peter.​
“The very incipit of the document sounds, like all those issued by Bergoglio, mocking and deceptive: because trust in God’s forgiveness without repentance is called the presumption of salvation without merit and is a sin against the Holy Spirit.” - Archbishop Viganò​

Priceless. A "delirious declaration. "Published by the parody of the former Holy Office, definitively pierces the veil of hypocrisy and deception of the Bergoglian hierarchy, showing these false shepherds for what they really are: servants of Satan.

Luke moved the abomination of desolation from his chapter 21, over to Luke 17, where after the mention of the "days of lot", we find the same instructions to "flee". When we see, it standing. Where it ought not to be.

"Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. 30Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.​
31“In that day, he who is on the housetop, and his goods are in the house, let him not come down to take them away. And likewise the one who is in the field, let him not turn back. 32Remember Lot’s wife.​

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. - Leviticus 18:22​

"Here are they that keep the commandments of God,
And the faith of Jesus.

Peaceful Sabbath.
 
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Brethren in Christ, beware of JEWS pushing stupid doctrines against a pope, trying to say he is the prophesied Antichrist for the end. Oh how the JEWS hate... the Catholic Church especially, and not just the pope. That because of how the Jews think they were persecuted by the Roman Church centuries ago by being cast out of Europe because of refusing to convert to Jesus Christ.

And we're supposed to believe their hatred and jealousy of the Roman Church today as they continue to make-up lies against not just the Roman Church, but Christianity in general? (Yeah, the Jews in old Britain that refused to convert to Christ were also cast out by Protestants in England). Why in the world admin can't see through their games here I don't know. I'm a Protestant, and I can clearly see what these Jews are doing with their lies!
 

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On the wing of abominations, multiple abominations, shall be one (Satan), who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, is poured out on the Desolator.

This means Satan is giving his power, his throne and his great authority to the composite beast.

This is happening right now before our eyes.

JUST IN, HELL HAS FROZEN OVER!!! Pope says priests can bless same-sex unions, requests should not be subject to moral analysis


Check out the comment section,

"This is exactly how I know that we are in the end times ....​
"This is what happens just before civilizations are consumed by fire..​

Even people on a news forum know it.

ROME (AP) — Pope Francis formally approved letting Catholic priests bless same-sex couples, the Vatican announced Monday, a radical shift in policy that aimed at making the church more inclusive while maintaining its strict ban on gay marriage.

So they have a strict ban on sodomite marriage, but the priest will turn around and give them his blessing. Lol.

On the wing of abominations.

Brace for the consummation, the Desolator must know that he has but a short time.
They can change whatever they want using these tactics and people follow along as evil spreads..
 
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ALL SIX POINTS OF DAN 9:24 were fulfilled within the 490 years, which ended in the 1st century. They were fulfilled in Christ and the body of Christ, the temple of God. I'll stay with God's word on that rather than the schemes of men.

To finish the transgression:
(rebellion will be stopped) REB
(BDB - rebellion against individuals, nation or God)
(finish or restrain) ASV marg
"She will bear a son, and you are to name him Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.” (Matt 1:21 NRSV)
"He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil." (1John 3:8 KJV)
"So you also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. Therefore, do not let sin exercise dominion in your mortal bodies, to make you obey their passions. (Rom 6:11-12 NRSV)

To make an end of sin:
(put an end to sin)NRSV
"for then he would have had to suffer repeatedly since the world was created. But as it is, he has appeared once for all at the climax of history to abolish sin by the sacrifice of himself." (Heb 9:26 REB)
"For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are sanctified." (Heb 10:14 NRSV)
"...erasing the record that stood against us with its legal demands. He set this aside, nailing it to the cross." (Col 2:14 NRSV)

To make reconciliation:
(to atone for iniquity) NRSV
(iniquity expiated) REB
"and through him to reconcile all things to himself, making peace through the shedding of his blood on the cross—all things, whether on earth or in heaven." (Col 1:20 REB)
"For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life." (Rom 5:10 KJV)
"Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people." (Heb 2:17 KJV)


These first 3 purposes together refer to all sorts of sin/sins of His people, those who are believers. ALL THREE of the previous goals were accomplished in the life and death of Jesus on the cross!


To bring in everlasting righteouness:

"In his days Judah will be saved and Israel will live in safety. And this is the name by which he will be called: 'The LORD is our righteousness.'” (Jer 23:6 NRSV)
"Your righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and your law is the truth." (Ps 119:142 NRSV)
"For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God." (2Cor 5:21 NRSV)

To seal up the vision & prophecy:
(vision and prophecy ratified) REB
(vision... *may be fulfilled) Douay
"Then he said to them, “Oh, how foolish you are, and how slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have declared! Was it not necessary that the Messiah should suffer these things and then enter into his glory?” Then beginning with Moses and all the prophets, he interpreted to them the things about himself in all the scriptures." (Luke 24:25-27 NRSV)
"After this, when Jesus knew that all was now finished, he said (in order to fulfill the scripture), ' am thirsty.' A jar full of sour wine was standing there. So they put a sponge full of the wine on a branch of hyssop and held it to his mouth. When Jesus had received the wine, he said, 'It is finished.' Then he bowed his head and gave up his spirit."(John 19:28-30 NRSV)

To anoint the most Holy:
(.... Holy thing or one...) NRSV
(saint of saints may be anointed) DRB
"With the anointing oil anoint the Tabernacle and everything in it, thus consecrating it and all its furnishings; it will then be holy." (Exod 40:9 REB)
"And if you and we belong to Christ, guaranteed as his and anointed, it is all God’s doing;" (2Cor 1:21 REB)
"My main point is: this is the kind of high priest we have, and he has taken his seat at the right hand of the throne of Majesty in heaven," (Heb 8:1 REB)
"For Christ entered not into a holy place made with hands, like in pattern to the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear before the face of God for us:" (Heb 9:24 RV)
"Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holy place by the blood of Jesus," (Heb 10:19 RV)
"But you rejected the Holy and Righteous One and asked to have a murderer given to you," (Acts 3:14 NRSV)

The scriptures themselves explain the six points taking place in the 490 years, without extreme literalism or a gap of 2000+ years which is ridiculous.
Here is a good explanation I came across...
"Daniel 9:25-27

What is so amazing about the often neglected Seventy Weeks Prophecy is that, not only does it give us a clue to the day of Christ's death, it indicates the year of His death as well! Of course, it is not as simple as looking up a fact in an almanac, but enough information is available to discover the year very accurately.
From what Gabriel says in verse 25, the ending point is fairly plain: the revealing of the Messiah. But what is the starting point?
Historians know of at least four decrees made by the Persian emperors "to restore and build Jerusalem." Cyrus made one in 538 BC, Darius I made one in 520 BC and Artaxerxes I made two, one in 457 BC and one in 444 BC. Which one is the correct command?
All of them could fit the description in verse 25. All of them are concerned with restoring Jerusalem to its former function as the Jewish religious capital and trade center. But only one of them fits the time constraints, and this becomes clear when we work out the puzzle of the seventy weeks.
We have to do a little arithmetic to find the terminus for each of these decrees. The expression "seventy weeks" literally means "seventy sevens," and the year-for-a-day principle applies here (Numbers 14:34; Ezekiel 4:4-6). We must multiply seventy weeks times the seven years in a week of years, which equals 490 years. Gabriel, however, says it is only sixty-nine sevens "until Messiah the Prince." Thus, 69 x 7 = 483 years.
If we add 483 years to each of the dates of the decrees, what do we find? (Remember to add one year for crossing the non-existent year 0.)
  • 538 BC + 483 years = 55 BC. No significant biblical event.
  • 520 BC + 483 years = 37 BC. No significant biblical event.
  • 457 BC + 483 years = AD 27. Jesus is baptized and begins His ministry.
  • 444 BC + 483 years = AD 40. No significant biblical event.
God made it easy! We have only one choice!
Verses 26-27 are very specific that the Messiah would work for three and a half years, half of a week, before being "cut off." When we add three and a half years to AD 27, we find that Christ's ministry ended in AD 31, the year of His crucifixion and resurrection."
 
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Brethren in Christ, beware of JEWS pushing stupid doctrines against a pope, trying to say he is the prophesied Antichrist for the end.
Are you troubled by the Jews Davy? Which Jews are you talking about?

I don't think that the rope a pope is "the prophesied Antichrist for the end, he's just that 6th head that appeared to be healed from a deadly head wound that was inflicted during the French Revolution in 1798. Mussolini got him bandaged back up in 1929 during the Lateran Treaty when he opened up the Vatican again. He's healed up OK for now. I don't think he'll last for too much longer though.
Oh how the JEWS hate... the Catholic Church especially, and not just the pope.
What Jews are you talking about? Were you drinking during this post Davy?
That because of how the Jews think they were persecuted by the Roman Church centuries ago by being cast out of Europe because of refusing to convert to Jesus Christ.
What Jews are you talking about? Did a Jew from Granada come and trouble you before the time?
(Yeah, the Jews in old Britain that refused to convert to Christ were also cast out by Protestants in England).
What Jews are you talking about? The Jews in Old Time Britain?
Why in the world admin can't see through their games here I don't know. I'm a Protestant, and I can clearly see what these Jews are doing with their lies!
Jews from the middles ages? These are the Jews making you crabby Davy? Are these the Jews saying the rope a pope is the antichrist?

In 1492 the Jews were expelled.

Wiki says: "On March 31, 1492, shortly after the end of the Granada War, the Catholic Monarchs signed the decree of expulsion of the Jews in Granada, which was sent to all the cities, towns and lordships of their kingdoms with strict orders to not read it or make it public until May 1.​

In 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue. There were four blood moons and God was opening up a new continent. That continent would become the "Earth" that helped the "Woman" after 1260 years of Pay Pal Persecution came to an end in 1798. Back then the Rope a pope was in charge, enjoying his prophetic time period as the Dragon chased the Woman.

Today it's the same "Earth" where the Dragon has risen from, and has taken his seat in a place prepared by God..

But my mule don't like you laughing Davy. He gets the crazy idea that you're laughing at him.


As not all calling themselves Jews, are Jews. They say they are Jews, but they are not, because their synagogue belongs to Satan.

"Here are they that keep the commandments of God,​
And the faith of Jesus.

Peaceful Sabbath.
 
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Brethren in Christ, beware of JEWS pushing stupid doctrines against a pope, trying to say he is the prophesied Antichrist for the end. Oh how the JEWS hate... the Catholic Church especially, and not just the pope. That because of how the Jews think they were persecuted by the Roman Church centuries ago by being cast out of Europe because of refusing to convert to Jesus Christ.

And we're supposed to believe their hatred and jealousy of the Roman Church today as they continue to make-up lies against not just the Roman Church, but Christianity in general? (Yeah, the Jews in old Britain that refused to convert to Christ were also cast out by Protestants in England). Why in the world admin can't see through their games here I don't know. I'm a Protestant, and I can clearly see what these Jews are doing with their lies!
The Reformers believed and taught it and they were definitely not Jews..
 
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Here is a simple straightforth understanding on this that anyone can grasp...."
Though heavy-laden with history and theology, the 70-week prophecy itself, just the numbers, is quite simple.

It starts out with, well, 70 weeks. The angel Gabriel says that “seventy weeks are determined for your people and for your holy city” (Dan. 9:24, NKJV).

So, it begins with 70 weeks, 490 days.

Gabriel then says that “from the going forth of the command to restore and build Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince, There shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks” (verse 25).

So, seven weeks plus 62 weeks comes to 69 weeks, or 483 days. Thus, 69 of the 70 weeks are immediately accounted for. Plus, this gives us the starting point of the 70 weeks.

All that remains is one week, the last, the seventieth.

That week immediately appears in the next verse, when Gabriel says, “And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself” (verse 26).

After what 62 weeks? The 62 weeks of the previous verse, which follow the seven weeks. Thus, after the seven weeks and the 62 weeks, that is, after 69 weeks, the Messiah will be “cut off.” And because only one week remains in the prophecy, this verse is referring to the seventieth week, the last seven days.

This final week is depicted again: “Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; but in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering” (verse 27).

In the midst of the last week, or in three and a half days, the “sacrifice and offerings” will cease.

What does this all mean?

First, the command to “restore and rebuild Jerusalem,” its starting point, was in 457 B.C, one of the firmest dates in biblical antiquity. (Years ago, Desmond Ford wrote a long article dissing 457, giving all the various and sundry reasons why he thought that 457 B.C. couldn’t be right. The date that he chose instead was—458 B.C., a difference of six months.)

So from 457 B.C to the “Messiah the prince,” Jesus, was how long? The text said 69 weeks, 483 days, or about one year and four months. That length, of course, can’t be correct, because it would have the Messiah, Jesus, coming almost half a millennium before He did. But if one applies the day-year principle, the 69 weeks, or 483 days, becomes 483 years, which brings us to A.D. 27, the year that Jesus was baptized. The ministry of Jesus Himself proves the validity of the day-year principle.

All that remains, then, is the last week, or the last seven years. In the midst of the week, or three and half years later, which comes to A.D. 31, “the sacrifice and the oblations” are brought to an end. At the death of Jesus, that is, when the Messiah was “cut off” in A.D. 31, the veil in the temple was torn apart, from top to bottom(Matt. 27:51; Mark 15:38), signifying the end of the purpose of the sacrifice and oblations because what they all pointed to, the death of Jesus, had been fulfilled.

Meanwhile, it said that He, the Messiah, will confirm a covenant “with many for one week” (verse 27), the last week, which ended in 34 A.D. with the stoning of Stephen (Acts 7) and the gospel now going to Gentiles as well as Jews.

So in short, there are 70 “weeks.” Sixty-nine of the 70 bring us to Jesus. The last week remains; in the midst of that week, or three and half “days,” Jesus is crucified,” then the prophecy ends."Cliff's Edge––The 70-Weeks Made Simple | Adventist Review
 
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I'm a Protestant, and I can clearly see what these Jews are doing with their lies!
You obviously don't understand the Protestant Reformation.

So how can you be a Protestant?
 
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He is basically doing the same deception as at the beginning, saying that he is giving what God says and twisting it...

Genesis 3:1
Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
Exactly. And this is how he has taken his seat in the Temple of God and is claiming to be God now.

This is the equivalent to Daniel saying that he would rise up to the PLACE of His Sanctuary. God's Sanctuary, the Temple of God is the True Tent in Heaven. That is the place where what God said to do originated from. When Satan sought to undermine all of God's Righteous Rules, from legalized abortions and same sex marriages, to seemingly simple things like pornography and widespread tattoos, he has taken Moses' Seat in the Temple of God.

I'm saying this is happening now, and has been happening for some time.

Paul was drawing from Isaiah 14, Daniel 8 and Matthew 23. Paul's "man of sin" is Isaiah 14's description of Satan himself.

"They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms; - Isaiah 14:16​

Isaiah calls Lucifer, (Satan), a man. Daniel called Gabriel a "man' in Chapter 9. The end time Antichrist is not a human man taken over by Satan, the end time Antichrist IS Satan. The specifications and evil achievements accomplished by the Antichrist over a long span of time, because of the signs he is given the power to do, could never be achieved by a human man. Like how the Son of Perdition entered into Judas, I'm sure he's been doing this with many world leaders on a daily basis for some time now. Not just Obama. Lol.

The man of sin will take his seat in the temple of God.

"He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.​

This is not talking about a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. Paul was drawing from Mathew 23.

"so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God​
"so that he sets himself up in God's temple,​
"So he will seat himself in the temple of God,​

He will "seat himself".

In Matthew 23, Jesus said:

"The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat"​
"The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the chair of Moses"​

They have "seated themselves".

The important thing to note here is that the Pharisees "seated themselves". Nobody told them to sit in that seat, they TOOK it. They just walked right in and took the seat and assumed to dictate God's Word without it being Authorized. If they would have recognized Jesus, they should have surrendered the seat to it's rightful Owner, but that's another story. We're trying not to miss the time of OUR Visitation.

So Moses was the teacher of the Law, conduit and communicator of the Word of God. Moses WAS appointed by God, the "seat" was his. God was regularly speaking to Moses and saying tell the children of Israel this or that.

"And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, “Speak to the people of Israel and say to them, I am the Lord your God. You shall not do as they do in the land of Egypt, where you lived, and you shall not do as they do in the land of Canaan, to which I am bringing you. You shall not walk in their statutes. You shall follow my rules and keep my statutes and walk in them. I am the Lord your God. You shall therefore keep my statutes and my rules; if a person does them, he shall live by them: I am the Lord. - Leviticus 18​

That is the Temple of God, the Place of His Sanctuary where His Commands originate from. Moses was long gone when Jesus said this so the Scribes and the Pharisees had really just taken over Moses' job or his "seat", which was Moses' place of authority in the Temple of God.

But also remember how Moses was told to build the Temple according to the pattern that he was shown on the mountain. This pattern came from the REAL Temple in Heaven, the place of His Sanctuary. That's the real Temple that Lucifer has figuratively taken his seat in now by influencing the many nations and tongues to pressure their governments into passing the transgressive laws.

Our end time Antichrist, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, has attempted to take over God's job by influencing the shift in morality and the trend in increased lawlessness. "Anti" can also mean "in place of".

God said: "Remember the Sabbath", "You shall not murder", "You shall not commit adultery" and "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination".

Antichrist (Satan) says: You can forget about the Sabbath, legalize pornography, legalize abortion, legalize same sex marriage and be free to have a gender modification.

When the "man" of Sin seeks to change these specific times and these particular types of Laws, he, by default, has magnified himself above all that is called God or is worshipped and has set his own self up in God's "seat" of authority in God's Temple thereby claiming to BE God.

"Worship" comes from the word "proskuneo" and can also mean to "submit to" or "to obey". And he has been at work on this for a long time using various human agents but make no mistake it has been Satan's hand inside the glove.

The falling away, the rebellion, has already came and went and we are here now at the end which has come.

In 1969, hardcore pornography was only legalized in Denmark.

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Protesters on Seventh Avenue near Times Square in New York, picket the theater where the porno film “Deep Throat” was being shown, May 31, 1980. (AP Photo/Dave Pickoff)

Even though Jesus said, “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart, the laws now in our land say:

April 16, 2002

Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition
(2002) that pornography which involves consenting adults is protected by the First Amendment, even if the models "appear to be" minors but are, in fact of lawful age, and thus has seen to protect the majority of, but not all pornography on the basis of first-amendment law.
 

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Are you troubled by the Jews Davy? Which Jews are you talking about?
A better question is, do you intend to support 'false Jews' who 'say' they are Jews, but lie and are not, but are the "synagogue of Satan"? You have no problem with them, is that it? I don't think you trust in the false Jews that knowingly serve the devil, at least I'd prefer to not think you do.

No, I do not hate the Jews, not those in Christ, and not even those of the seed that still reject Lord Jesus. I hate... the "tares" that HIDE as bloodline Jews when they lie and say... they are Jews! And if you are not aware of this specific matter, I suggest you study what Jesus said in Matthew 13 in His parable of the tares of the field, and start from there, which if that is not understood, then many of His parables won't be understood. Just a suggestion.

I don't think that the rope a pope is "the prophesied Antichrist for the end, he's just that 6th head that appeared to be healed from a deadly head wound that was inflicted during the French Revolution in 1798. Mussolini got him bandaged back up in 1929 during the Lateran Treaty when he opened up the Vatican again. He's healed up OK for now. I don't think he'll last for too much longer though.
Even though I see many problems of doctrine espoused by today's popes, and the Catholic Church, I also see false doctrine espoused in Protestant Churches too. Remember that Jesus had no rebuke for only 2 out of 7 Churches in Asia per Rev.2 & 3.

The "seven heads" do not represent popes, nor false prophets, nor any man. Jesus defined the "seven heads" as "seven mountains" per Rev.17. It means GEOGRAPHIC REGIONS upon this earth with 7 established centers. The "deadly wound" upon one of the 7 heads is about Satan's beast kingdom of old which God destroyed back in the 1st world earth age. If you do not understand this point, then you will be misled about the "deadly wound" in many ways.

Also, it appears that you think the 1st beast that comes out of the 'sea' of waters represents the Antichrist entity, a person. It does not. It is about a beast 'kingdom' over the whole earth. That is why it has ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns, which Jesus explains in Rev.17. In Rev.17:15 Jesus shows the 'waters' represent peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues. Moreover, back at Rev.12:3-4 we are shown a previous world beast kingdom that Satan originally rebelled against God with in that old world; it had ten horns, seven heads, but only seven crowns. And it is linked with the time when Satan as that "red dragon" drew a third of the stars (angels) to earth in rebellion. So didn't you catch that revelation about the idea of a beast kingdom?

The Rev.13:4-8 Scripture is pointing directly to Satan as that "dragon" which the whole world will worship. Can you not figure that out?

The rest of your post is just way... off.... track!
 

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Brethren in Christ, beware of JEWS pushing stupid doctrines against a pope, trying to say he is the prophesied Antichrist for the end. Oh how the JEWS hate... the Catholic Church especially, and not just the pope.
No, I do not hate the Jews, not those in Christ, and not even those of the seed that still reject Lord Jesus. I hate... the "tares" that HIDE as bloodline Jews when they lie and say... they are Jews!
So you don't hate the Jews, just the "tares" that HIDE as bloodline Jews when they lie and say... they are Jews! These are the "JEWS pushing stupid doctrines against a pope, trying to say he is the prophesied Antichrist for the end."?

I don't know man, I probably wouldn't worry about it right now. I think the Jews got enough trouble right now without worrying about the Rope a Pope being the Antichrist for the end times.

The "seven heads" do not represent popes, nor false prophets, nor any man. Jesus defined the "seven heads" as "seven mountains" per Rev.17. It means GEOGRAPHIC REGIONS upon this earth with 7 established centers. The "deadly wound" upon one of the 7 heads is about Satan's beast kingdom of old which God destroyed back in the 1st world earth age. If you do not understand this point, then you will be misled about the "deadly wound" in many ways.
I didn't say the seven heads were seven popes, heaven forbid! (One is enough). The 6th head was the one that "is" when John was speaking to the angel. Five have fallen, one is. The first five had been proven false by Jesus' birth, death and resurrection. But one had not come yet at the time John was speaking to the angel.

They're not geographic regions. This calls for mind with wisdom. All five, all seven of them, are still here in operation right now. "Fallen" means proved false. Like a fallen woman, she's still alive, but fallen from grace.
Also, it appears that you think the 1st beast that comes out of the 'sea' of waters represents the Antichrist entity, a person. It does not. It is about a beast 'kingdom' over the whole earth. That is why it has ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns, which Jesus explains in Rev.17. In Rev.17:15 Jesus shows the 'waters' represent peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues. Moreover, back at Rev.12:3-4 we are shown a previous world beast kingdom that Satan originally rebelled against God with in that old world; it had ten horns, seven heads, but only seven crowns.
Nope, I never said that. I usually refer to the first beast of Revelation 13 as the composite beast, as it is composed of multiple parts.
The Rev.13:4-8 Scripture is pointing directly to Satan as that "dragon" which the whole world will worship. Can you not figure that out?
Yep, I'm pretty sure I can figure that one out.

Satan is the Dragon, the beast that has ascended from the bottomless pit, made war on and killed the Two Witnesses. The Destroyer. In two languages his name means destruction. Abaddon, Apollyon. The son of destruction, the son of perdition.

"The Hebrew term Abaddon (Hebrew: אֲבַדּוֹן 'Ăḇaddōn, meaning "destruction", "doom"), and its Greek equivalent Apollyon (Koinē Greek: Ἀπολλύων, Apollúōn meaning "Destroyer")​