Truthnightmare
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Does this insinuate the lake no longer exist?Hippolytus of Rome in about 230A.D.
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Does this insinuate the lake no longer exist?Hippolytus of Rome in about 230A.D.
Check it out. You might find it interesting.Does this insinuate the lake no longer exist?
Will do..Check it out. You might find it interesting.
As I read Timothy (1 Timothy 6:16) only God has immortality......but from your understanding, Adam and Eve had it also for you say 'then they became mortal' Mortal means subject to death and this death was a consequence of their disobedience as foretold by God ....but according to you, the soul can never die.The death that occurred in the garden was the demise of their one ess in God. That intrinsic link with the living Holy Spirit that made them of and from himself. They then became mortal,conscious of material reality and their self-consciousness,awareness of self. Which is why they felt exposed when realizing they were nude.
The soul can never die,as we understand death and dying. It is of and from God.
But God can destroy it.I did not put words in your mouth.
When you stated the soul is dead,those were your words.
And they are wrong.
We aren't zombies. The death that occurred in the garden was the demise of their one ess in God. That intrinsic link with the living Holy Spirit that made them of and from himself. They then became mortal,conscious of material reality and their self-consciousness,awareness of self. Which is why they felt exposed when realizing they were nude.
The soul can never die,as we understand death and dying. It is of and from God.
Revelation is figurative unless it's obviously not. The above is clearly figurative.Rev.6
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
If the soul dies then WHOSE SOULS ARE THESE ?
How are they under the altar ?
Who does the destroying and who is it we are to fear?Matthew 10:28 “Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
That's fine. I think we've discussed this several times over the years.So, Jarrod... I will stop now because this is my core belief and as long as we have separate beliefs on this we just need to agree to disagree.
...and so one sets themselves up for the spiritualist deception....yet would never know it.It is interesting that when the body dies, the spirit and soul do not die yet even in an unsaved person. Everyone's consciousness either goes to be with God, or into the outer darkness until the resurrection of the dead.
It's my understanding that Revelation was told to John in signs, so the book of Revelation is seriously symbolic. If people want to take Revelation 6:9,10 literally, that's there choice. But I disagree with taking it literally because it seems to me to be contradicting other scriptures by taking it literally. One of those scriptures is Genesis 2:7 which teaches that our flesh and blood human bodies became living souls, when God blew the breath/spirit of life into the flesh and blood human body.Rev.6
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
If the soul dies then WHOSE SOULS ARE THESE ?
How are they under the altar ?
Let proposition P1 = I have a living soul.So this scripture teaches me that we are living souls, not that we have living souls.
A human being is a living soul according to Genesis 2:7. This scripture doesn't say the flesh and blood human body was given a living soul. Genesis 2:7 says that when God blew the breath/spirit of life into that flesh and blood human body that God had formed from the dust of the ground, that flesh and blood human body BECAME a living soul. Argue and debate all you want but the word "became" is the accurate word that applies in this scripture. This scripture doesn't say that the flesh and blood human body that God formed from the dust of the ground was GIVEN a living soul.Let proposition P1 = I have a living soul.
Is P1 true to you?
this scripture teaches me that we are living souls, not that we have living souls.
I don't care how many times you ask, I'm not going to contradict what my Bible says at Genesis 2:7.I have a living soul.
Let proposition P1 = I have a living soul.
Is P1 true to you? This is the 2nd time I have asked.
Do you mean "contradict" in its first-order logical sense?I don't care how many times you ask, I'm not going to contradict what my Bible says at Genesis 2:7.