So you continue to deny that we receive the gift of saving faith of the full grace of God, and with his Spirit within us via his Son for salvation. And upon God's acceptance criteria, that vitally includes one's true repentance? You continue to deny it for your conceited version of what you call the gospel based upon a purely carnal view, drawn from a personal experience that I believe has made you this way. I've read many of your posts to have come to this conclusion over time.You are free to walk in whatever way you see fit.
Not found in scripture you say?.... Unless you read the bible, that is....
"For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it." Heb. 4:2
Again, your ideas are not the same as what we read in the bible. It's so funny that people conjure up ideas...and when they prove to be false, the accusation is that I'm the one making things up.
The bible is written for our instruction. And that includes the book of Exodus. Have you seen the movie "The 10 Commandments"?
You have divorced salvation away from the scriptures. There is a perfect parallel between the OT scriptures and the NT gospel. See how many times the NT quotes the OT as a fulfillment.
You need a better grounding in the scriptures before you criticize what I'm posting. Unless you just want to opinionate that is...
I made it up by reading the bible and quoting it...and experiencing that very training. So I have multiple angles to see things from. If you eliminate the scriptural lessons and warnings...then you are on your own.
I say that being born again is a SAMPLE of grace, because no one is so mature and selfless whereby they can remain there. Faith is lacking. So we enter into the training ground until we have the faith to fully surrender into the higher walk...being translated into the kingdom walk. (you do realize that this is in the bible...I don't always post every verse as it would become tedious...so you have to do the search...that is, if you want to progress in understanding)
God decides when and if we are ready to take on the responsibility of the higher walk in holiness. There is a great penalty for misusing grace...and not everyone is ready for that. God chooses...that's why these are called the chosen.
God's ways are deep and penetrating...defying any kind of harmony with the carnal mind. One must adapt oneself to God and His ways to have any chance of being selected by God for the upward training of the saint.
A sample of grace. indeed. How can God give one only bit of his unmerited love and generosity for especially salvation? Do you know what bit he gave us and the major part he held back? Of course you do not know because it is a bold-faced lie.
Here's a source that also says you are a liar if you do not give me any relevance.
"Based on the provided information, when we become saved, we do not get only a sample of grace. We are saved by grace from beginning to end. The desire to come to God and have faith is also attributed to God’s grace at work, even before we believe. As we continue to trust in Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit works in our lives to make us more like Him, which strengthens our assurance of being one of God’s children."
Did His word as in Paul and Jesus and others only mean a trial run or an OT training type of salvation is given to us, that can eventually falter as the Israelite faulted without finding salvation? As only a joke or at best for a teaser until another newer future covenant is made? How cruel that would be. My God is of love and mercy when he gave his Son to die on the Cross for us. It was not a joke to him, and yet you mock His action and his full grace given to us for our salvation, with your deceitful works you have attached to His.......
And what does this sample of grace of yours really mean anyway? You really cannot explain it can you? It is not in scripture at all. It is a foreign concept.
So for you, and others like you, God only gave you a part, a small piece of his holiness and unmerited generosity for our salvation. The rest of it we need to get for ourselves, and in the hope it may please God. Do you know how this sounds Epi? It sounded like you have overruled God's word, and in its place invented your own rules for salvation. And then one can conclude as I do, at least biblically, your conversion in/into Christ is false, as you also lack the Spirit of God within you. It also reminds me of the self-righteous Israelites wandering around in the desert because they did not obey His word and created their own righteousness of works, as you are doing here. You may still be a seeker and wanting to please God in your own way?
And to say there is a perfect parallel of the OT scriptures with the NT gospel. Hogwash! You have forced a false parallel to fit your bogus gospel of the Kingdom and your so-called 2-step salvation idea. How dare you impose the plan of God found in Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Joshua, then, with his perfect grace for salvation of the new Covenant established by the shed blood of his Son, on the Cross and beyond.
Do you know what you have done?
Reread these OT Books in view of God's overall purpose and plan, and you must see the gross glaring error you have made here by fusing this Old agreement with the New and revised agreement, under a more perfect full act of grace for our salvation. The former, in brief, was for revelation, that the human heart cannot be trusted to serve in holiness and God, ever, if left alone to its own will and devises without the the heart being transformed and renewed with God's constant presence. Thus, the reason for the latter revised agreement by God, ensuring we can now have his own Spirit within us to serve him more perfectly and in true worship, if we open our hearts to him. Scripture speak to all this...and yet it is not beneficial to you and your cause so you must deny it.
This erroneous and deceitful doctrine of yours, you purposely keep in the wings of your threads/topics until the right opportunistic moment to unveil, disguised by open pleasing titles that entice the unsuspected, will lead many people astray. And that is your goal. To lead as many people as possible away from the true gospel of scripture.
If you have the truth and knowledge of God for salvation as you strongly imply, you would be eager to be transparent and open about it and be able to clearly articulate it. Since all you have done is falsify scripture for your cause and with unexplained scripture-like expressions of levels, and with new meanings for righteous and holiness, as a drastically revise view of Paul's race, you message is meaningless and false.
I hope some day when God calls you, you will heed it and open your heart to him and with true repentance, as all of us must do or have in the past..it is a command to everyone...