The Church decided the canon. How do you know you have the correct canon?

[shepherdsword]

No your drama queenery is hilarious and delusional. just show us where the solas appear in Scripture and where it says the magic incantation must be recited. Hysteria isnt an argument.

Not sure what you mean by "magic incantation" Unless you are referring to the "abra Cadabra" the priest recites right before you worship the little wafer god you claim is Jesus. How about a DNA sample from the communion to see just what is really is? That will determine who is delusional. LOL!

 

[nedsk]

i have to step out - will be back later

You erred on your response to (A) for it is CLEAR that the words of God are Spirit, the Way, the Truth and the Life

And nothing says faith is sufficient. If it was there would be no reason to say, faith without works is dead just like a body without spirit is dead. I've never seen people who otherwise appear to be rational logical just completely ignore the very clear evidence that faith is not sufficient. While your gone study the meaning of sufficient.

 

[nedsk]

Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Not sure what you mean by "magic incantation" Unless you are referring to the "abra Cadabra" right before you worship the little wafer god you claim is Jesus. How about a DNA sample from the communion to see just what is really is? In any case YOUR credibility would increase if you can explain the numerous heretical practices of the RCC that I posted.

Nothing Matthew says there indicates is sufficient. Try again

The fact you have to attack signifies you're out of arguments. Playing stupid isn't sn argument.

 

[shepherdsword]

Nothing Matthew says there indicates is sufficient. Try again

The fact you have to attack signifies you're out of arguments. Playing stupid isn't sn argument.

Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

2 Ti 3:16-17 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.



Did you get that DNA sample from the communion wafer yet? Better tell your priest to chant more Abra Cadabras...LOL

 

[nedsk]

Not sure what you mean by "magic incantation" Unless you are referring to the "abra Cadabra" the priest recites right before you worship the little wafer god you claim is Jesus. How about a DNA sample from the communion to see just what is really is? That will determine who is delusional. LOL!

You can attack me but you're denying Jesus. John 6:52 the Jews hearing Jesus speak ask, "How can this man give us his flesh to eat?" John 6:53 Jesus answers them, "Amen Amen I say to you, unless you the the flesh of the son of man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you." Notice Jesus doesn't say, believe in me, he doesn't say hear my word he says, unless you eat my FLESH you do not have life within you. You aren't mocking me friend. You're either blind or deluded.

 

[nedsk]

Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

2 Ti 3:16-17 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.



Did you get that DNA sample from the communion wafer yet? Better tell your priest to chant more Abra Cadabras...LOL

Profitable does not mean only. Posting in large bold.letters doesn't make it mean the same either. LMBO

 

[shepherdsword]

You can attack me but you're denying Jesus. John 6:52 the Jews hearing Jesus speak as, "How can this man give us his flesh to eat?" John 6:53 Jesus answers them, "Amen Amen I say to you, unless you the the flesh of the son of man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you." Notice Jesus doesn't say, believe in me, he doesn't say hear my word he says, unless you eat my FLESH you do not have life within you. You aren't mocking me friend. You're either blind or deluded.

if it is his flesh then a DNA sample will prove it. Jesus himself said this when ignorant and deluded people thought he was speaking of his actual flesh:

Jn 6:60-63 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it? When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you? What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

That proves he wasn't promoting some cannibalistic ritual. He was speaking symbolically.

 

[shepherdsword]

Profitable does not mean only. Posting in large bold.letters doesn't make it mean the same either. LMBO

It clearly promotes sola scriptura by saying if they do not speak according to his word they have no light. You are just too programmed by the RCC to admit that

 

[nedsk]

if it is his flesh then a DNA sample will prove it. Jesus himself said this when ignorant and deluded people thought he was speaking of his actual flesh:

Jn 6:60-63 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it? When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you? What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

That proves he wasn't promoting some cannibalistic ritual. He was speaking symbolically.

It says THE flesh not his flesh.

Jesus does speak symbolically but he switches things verse 51. "I am the living bread(symbolic as Jesus is not bread) that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread( again symbolic because he is not bread) will live forever; (so far you're on the money but wait there's more) and the bread (symbolic) that I will give is my flesh(literal because Jesus is flesh) for the life of the world. Then there more times he refers to eating or feeding upon his flesh. You can keep mocking but he isn't talking symbolically

 

[nedsk]

It clearly promotes sola scriptura by saying if they do not speak according to his word they have no light. You are just too programmed by the RCC to admit that

Profitable doesn't mean only. That's what sola means. You can't show me where profitable means only. You believe crap that's not in the bible while ignoring stuff that is. You aren't mocking me but you don't know what else to do.

 

[shepherdsword]

It says THE flesh not his flesh.

Jesus does speak symbolically but he switches things verse 51. "I am the living bread(symbolic as Jesus is not bread) that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread( again symbolic because he is not bread) will live forever; (so far you're on the money but wait there's more) and the bread (symbolic) that I will give is my flesh(literal because Jesus is flesh) for the life of the world. Then there more times he refers to eating or feeding upon his flesh. You can keep mocking but he isn't talking symbolically

'THE" flesh was referring to his flesh as the grammar and syntax indicate. You are saying that Jesus is promoting some cannibalistic ritual that violates the law of God. No where in scripture is man commanded to eat the flesh of another man. However, I would be more convinced if we had an actual dna sequence from the wafer after abra cadabras were chanted by the priest.

 

[shepherdsword]

Profitable doesn't mean only. That's what sola means. You can't show me where profitable means only. You believe crap that's not in the bible while ignoring stuff that is. You aren't mocking me but you don't know what else to do.

Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Here it is clearly said that if what is spoken is not in his word it has no LIGHT! THAT's Sola Scriptura!

 

[nedsk]

'THE" flesh was referring to his flesh as the grammar and syntax indicate. You are saying that Jesus is promoting some cannibalistic ritual that violates the law of God. No where in scripture is man commanded to eat the flesh of another man. However, I would be more convinced if we had an actual dna sequence from the wafer after abra cadabras were chanted by the priest.

I just showed you where Jesus clearly says unless you eat his flesh and drink his blood you have no life within you. Jesus directly answers the question, "How can this man give us his flesh to eat?" with "Amen Amen I say to you unless you eat the flesh if the sin of man and drink his blood you do not have life within you." That's a direct answer to a direct question. Jesus doesn't correct them he says unless you eat my flesh and drink .y blood you have no life within you. The people he's answering sound like you.

Then he reinforced his position v 60, they say "This is a hard saying. Who can accept it?" Which means he doubled down in the claim. How does he respond? V 61 Aware of the complaints of his disciples, Jesus said to them, "Does this shock you?" He doesn't say why does this shock you which you might expect didn't understand. And if he was talking symbolically why would they be shocked?

 

[nedsk]

Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Here it is clearly said that if what is spoken is not in his word it has no LIGHT! THAT's Sola Scriptura!

Right sola scriptura is not in his word. Nothing says "only" scripture there.

 

[shepherdsword]

Nothing says "only" scripture there.

That's what the verse means:

Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

 

[shepherdsword]

I just showed you where Jesus clearly says unless you eat his flesh and drink his blood you have no life within you.

I just showed you clearly where Jesus said the flesh profits nothing

Then he reinforced his position v 60, they say "This is a hard saying. Who can accept it?" Which means he doubled down in the claim. How does he respond? V 61 Aware of the complaints of his disciples, Jesus said to them, "Does this shock you?" He doesn't say why does this shock you which you might expect didn't understand. And if he was talking symbolically why would they be shocked?

He asked if it shocked them and then he explained that the flesh profits nothing...it is the Spirit that gives life. I defy you to show one place in scripture where people are commanded to eat human flesh.

 

[BreadOfLife]

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OF ALL THE HUMAN TRADITIONS taught and practiced by the Roman Catholic Church, which are contrary to the Bible, the most ancient are the prayers for the dead and the sign of the Cross. Both began 300 years after Christ. Wax Candles introduced in church. About The Mass, as a daily celebration, adopted. The worship of Mary, the mother of Jesus, and the use of the term, "Mother of God", as applied to

Since you can’t seem to read – I will deal with only a few of these examples. I explicitly asked you name a SINGLE Catholic Tradition that has been placed OVER the Word of God.

This list is from an anti-Catholic book from the 19th century by Catholic-hater, Loeaine Boettner called, Roman Catholicism.

NONE of the things listed here are traditions that were placed ABOVE the Word f God. Just for kicks, however – I’ll point out how stupid and wrong the list is . . .

1. Prayers for the dead 300 A.D.
This is a practice that can be seen as far back in Jewish history as 2 Macc. 12:42-46. The practice of praying for the dead is still done by Orthodox Jews to this day. The New Testament also refers to a prayer for the dead by Paul in 2 Timothy 1:16-18.

On the Epitaph of Abercius, the Bishop of Hierapolis, he asks all who may read his grave marker to pray for him. This was written in 180 AD.

2. Making the sign of the cross 300 A.D.
Where Boettner got this phony date, we may never know, but it is completely untrue.
Tertullian writes about making the sign of the cross circa, 195 A.D.: “In all the occupations of our daily lives, we furrow our foreheads with the Sign of the cross”. This was already a long-established custom when this was written.

Things like “Worship” of Mary and “Worship” of the cross are just plain stupid because we don’t do either.
Other things on this list such as using candles and speaking in Latin go BEYOND stupid . . .

They absolutely DID suppress them. Unless you could read Latin.

As I educated you in my last post – MOST of the world was ILLITERARE for the first 1500 years. They would have NO NEED for a Bible.

Besides in any given 3-year cycle – virtually the ENTIRE Bible is read aloud at Mass.

Tyndale was the first to translate the scriptures into English from the Greek and the RCC burned him at the stake for it.

You don’t READ well – DO you?

Again – as I educated you in my LAST post, act – there were MANY English versions of the Scriptures existed before Wycliff - let alone, Tyndale. They were authorized by the Church.
(see “Where We Got the Bible” by Henry Graham, ch. 11, “Vernacular Scriptures Before Wycliff”)

 

[David in NJ]

And nothing says faith is sufficient. I've never seen people who otherwise appear to be rational logical just completely ignore the very clear evidence that faith is not sufficient.

Salvation and Faith precede "works"
And Jesus said to the man, “Stand up and go. Your faith has healed you.”
Jesus Says: He who hears MY words and believes/FAITH in Him who sent ME is passed from death unto Life.
Holy Spirit Says: Without faith it is impossible to please God.

If it was there would be no reason to say, faith without works is dead just like a body without spirit is dead.

Salvation and Faith precede "works" = believe God = Ephesians 2:8-10

For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, not by works,
so that no one can boast.
For we are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance as our way of life.

While your gone study the meaning of sufficient.

“My grace is sufficient for you" = "the law came thru Moses but Grace and Truth came thru JESUS CHRIST"

"Our qualification comes from God.
Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God, ...

"And God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that having all sufficiency in all things at all times,
you may abound in every good work."

Grace - Faith - Works = ALL come down from the FATHER from Above

 

[nedsk]

That's what the verse means:

Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

I gave you jesus' words and you ignore them. You're blind

 

[David in NJ]

Since you can’t seem to read – I will deal with only a few of these examples. I explicitly asked you name a SINGLE Catholic Tradition that has been placed OVER the Word of God.

This list is from an anti-Catholic book from the 19th century by Catholic-hater, Loeaine Boettner called, Roman Catholicism.

NONE of the things listed here are traditions that were placed ABOVE the Word f God. Just for kicks, however – I’ll point out how stupid and wrong the list is . . .

1. Prayers for the dead 300 A.D.
This is a practice that can be seen as far back in Jewish history as 2 Macc. 12:42-46. The practice of praying for the dead is still done by Orthodox Jews to this day. The New Testament also refers to a prayer for the dead by Paul in 2 Timothy 1:16-18.

On the Epitaph of Abercius, the Bishop of Hierapolis, he asks all who may read his grave marker to pray for him. This was written in 180 AD.

2. Making the sign of the cross 300 A.D.
Where Boettner got this phony date, we may never know, but it is completely untrue.
Tertullian writes about making the sign of the cross circa, 195 A.D.: “In all the occupations of our daily lives, we furrow our foreheads with the Sign of the cross”. This was already a long-established custom when this was written.

Things like “Worship” of Mary and “Worship” of the cross are just plain stupid because we don’t do either.
Other things on this list such as using candles and speaking in Latin go BEYOND stupid . . .

As I educated you in my last post – MOST of the world was ILLITERARE for the first 1500 years. They would have NO NEED for a Bible.

Besides in any given 3-year cycle – virtually the ENTIRE Bible is read aloud at Mass.

You don’t READ well – DO you?

Again – as I educated you in my LAST post, act – there were MANY English versions of the Scriptures existed before Wycliff - let alone, Tyndale. They were authorized by the Church.
(see “Where We Got the Bible” by Henry Graham, ch. 11, “Vernacular Scriptures Before Wycliff”)

I explicitly asked you name a SINGLE Catholic Tradition that has been placed OVER the Word of God.

veneration of Mary
ascention of Mary
Mary as intercessor
rosary beads
RCC confessional with absolution thru repetitious prayer
magic transubstantiation wafer god as opposed to "breaking bread from house to house" in faith