Science is bringing us closer than ever to proving God is real

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Strider324

New Member
Jun 26, 2025
43
9
8
71
Tucson
Faith
Atheist
Country
United States
Correct.

Religion is Man trying to reach God, or become God, by self effort.

Christianian, is God become a Man, to save Mankind, based on God's Provision that is the blood and death of God's Son.

Those 2 are not the same.
Try to understand @Strider324
As I said, you're welcome to argue your fringe view with Christians who claim they are part of a religion. :handok:
 

ScottA

Well-Known Member
Feb 24, 2011
13,336
6,305
113
www.FinishingTheMystery.com
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
No one with an IQ over 12 has any problem proving they’ve been kissed or in love. We know the definitions of kisses and love. We know what physical and emotional responses, as well as what behaviors provide evidence consistent with those definitions of love. Certainly you can offer a more reasoned and relevant response to my post….
So...you're saying your IQ is under 12 (because you have not proven anything).

Interesting. Would you then be happy with "definitions" for proof of God? Fair is fair.
 

MatthewG

Well-Known Member
Apr 21, 2021
16,929
5,565
113
34
Fyffe
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
You can say Big Bang Theory was started by God, but I can never prove God existance.


No one can. It's why people were of faith...

Science is still cool and all.
 
  • Like
Reactions: JustMe

Behold

Well-Known Member
Apr 11, 2020
21,619
8,444
113
Netanya or Pensacola
Faith
Christian
Country
Israel
You can say Big Bang Theory was started by God, but I can never prove God existance.

No one can. It's why people were of faith...

A false "Creation" rejecting religion, tries to prove that "it all started with the "big bang"
But this is religious fallacy, pretending to be truth.
The truth is.... you can't have a "big bang" unless there is previously existing created material available to "BANG".
So, what this OLD dumb theory is trying to Hide, is that the STUFF that "banged".. was there before the "bang".

How did that "stuff that banged" get there, originally ???

See, you can't have a "big bang" unless there is something already CREATED that can "bang in a big way".

Hello reality check.....
You have arrived., and Religious SCIENCE hates you.
 

Strider324

New Member
Jun 26, 2025
43
9
8
71
Tucson
Faith
Atheist
Country
United States
So...you're saying your IQ is under 12 (because you have not proven anything).

Interesting. Would you then be happy with "definitions" for proof of God? Fair is fair.
If you honestly believe you can't even prove someone has kissed you, or demonstrate evidence of a love relationship, then you are beyond the pale of rational discourse.
 

Strider324

New Member
Jun 26, 2025
43
9
8
71
Tucson
Faith
Atheist
Country
United States
The evidence of Creation can be seen everywhere when you open your heart to Him

True science is that which resides in God the Creator

Satan, the spiritual ruler over this world will not allow you or anyone to see = "having their minds darkened"

If you were to be "born-again" by the Living Spirit of God , that would be your New Beginning and your understanding would grow in the knowledge of the Truth(including factual science).

Water is the greatest testament to factual science that is Truth
None of that seems to be supported by scripture. And a god that would itself harden Pharaohs heart (was this just because he didn't want to miss out on slaughtering thousands of children with the 10th plague?) - just as he was beginning to soften, possibly leading to the release of the Hebrews - strikes me as no better than Satan.
 

David in NJ

Well-Known Member
Jul 20, 2021
12,674
6,627
113
50
Denville
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
None of that seems to be supported by scripture. And a god that would itself harden Pharaohs heart (was this just because he didn't want to miss out on slaughtering thousands of children with the 10th plague?) - just as he was beginning to soften, possibly leading to the release of the Hebrews - strikes me as no better than Satan.
Thank you for your response.
i am walking out the door right now - be back in about 4 hors from now

Did you get the Organic Whole Leaf Green Tea = It is really good but double up on the bags as it make sit stronger bolder taste
 
  • Like
Reactions: talons

talons

Well-Known Member
Oct 18, 2024
966
1,643
93
Alabama
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
For the thousands of mainstream Christians I have engaged over 5 decades - they most certainly consider Christianity to be their religion.
Yeah , Christianity is called a religion , one of the many religions in the world . I would prefer to say I am a follower of Jesus the Son of God .
I’m afraid that with 3 cancers and a heart condition trying to kill me every day
Cancer , no need for me to tell you how bad that is , my wife has been afflicted with such . She is still with us , praise God !
I know you have no belief in God but do you have a prayer request for me to pray about ? God will hear my prayers but how He answers them is up to Him .
 

Strider324

New Member
Jun 26, 2025
43
9
8
71
Tucson
Faith
Atheist
Country
United States
Thank you for your response.
i am walking out the door right now - be back in about 4 hors from now

Did you get the Organic Whole Leaf Green Tea = It is really good but double up on the bags as it make sit stronger bolder taste
I'm not really interested in changing my diet or lifestyle at this time. I'm in remission for now, but if cancer takes me, so be it. Honestly never expected to live this long. Have already received more in life than I have earned. Death is not something I fear.
 

Strider324

New Member
Jun 26, 2025
43
9
8
71
Tucson
Faith
Atheist
Country
United States
Yeah , Christianity is called a religion , one of the many religions in the world . I would prefer to say I am a follower of Jesus the Son of God .

Cancer , no need for me to tell you how bad that is , my wife has been afflicted with such . She is still with us , praise God !
I know you have no belief in God but do you have a prayer request for me to pray about ? God will hear my prayers but how He answers them is up to Him .
Well, as trillions of prayers regularly go unanswered - especially the ones to have a limb restored - I find prayer to be a process of more benefit to the pray-er, and not the pray-ee.
 

JustMe

Well-Known Member
May 6, 2025
526
865
93
US
Faith
Other Faith
Country
United States
You can say Big Bang Theory was started by God, but I can never prove God existance.


No one can. It's why people were of faith...

Science is still cool and all.
True, it's impossible to prove God. Even in his word, in scripture, God can only be presented in a filtered restricted manner, through his creation, in things and people.

Faith is everything, and this faith is alive with the Spirit of God.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MatthewG

Matthias

Well-Known Member
May 3, 2022
21,605
15,549
113
Kentucky
Faith
Other Faith
Country
United States
The bodily resurrection of the Messiah is sufficient proof to me that the God of Israel exists.
 

David in NJ

Well-Known Member
Jul 20, 2021
12,674
6,627
113
50
Denville
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I'm not really interested in changing my diet or lifestyle at this time. I'm in remission for now, but if cancer takes me, so be it. Honestly never expected to live this long. Have already received more in life than I have earned. Death is not something I fear.
Death is not something I fear.
What has persuaded you to not fear death?
 

Strider324

New Member
Jun 26, 2025
43
9
8
71
Tucson
Faith
Atheist
Country
United States
What has persuaded you to not fear death?
I don't think I was persuaded. Accepting the reality of birth - life - death is just a rational perspective. And - not referring to you - I think if eternity means spending it with so many of the Christians I have engaged - not interested.
 

David in NJ

Well-Known Member
Jul 20, 2021
12,674
6,627
113
50
Denville
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I don't think I was persuaded. Accepting the reality of birth - life - death is just a rational perspective. And - not referring to you - I think if eternity means spending it with so many of the Christians I have engaged - not interested.
Well, i understand and there are 'christians' who do not like me very much because of their religion.

We live on a Beautiful Landscape of great variety of nature from diversity of climates. trees, flora, animals, birds, insects and of course my personal favorite = rivers, lakes and oceans teaming with delicious fish that i love to catch.

Would it not be incredible & indescribable to see and know the Creator who made all these things for us to enjoy and experience!!!

When i was younger/stronger my favorite past times in summer were water skiing & handball and in winter, downhill skiing & hockey.