Question for Catholics: Do you classify all non-Catholics as Protestant?

[ScottA]

LMBO ...what Jesus actually meant was....I cant stop laughing

Jesus clarified what Peter was told by the Father, I have clarified what Jesus has told the His Church. Same, same. This is how this works--the exact point of the passage.

But go ahead and laugh. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

You have NO problem believing that God merely spoke and the entire universe leapt into existence out of NOTHING – but you can’t believe that Hew can transform bread and wine into His Body and Blood??

I can see proof He created the universe

I'd like to see proof that your collar boy can turn the juice in to the literal Blood of Jesus and proof that he can turn the crackers in to the literal Flesh of Jesus as you folks engage in cannibalism and vampirism believing you are actually drinking human blood and eating human flesh

Then you’ll have to explain to me why Jesus “lied” at the Last Supper . . .

He didn't lie, the so called catholic "church" lied.

Where does Jesus say these are "representative" of his body and blood?

Where did Jesus say you are actually drinking human blood and eating human flesh?

What the so called catholic "church" is engaging in is witchcraft and occult rituals

I cant stop laughing

Oh you will be.

 

[BreadOfLife]

I can see proof He created the universe

I'd like to see proof that your collar boy can turn the juice in to the literal Blood of Jesus and p

you folks engage in cannibalism and vampirism believing you are actually drinking human blood and eating human flesh

He didn't lie, the so called catholic "church" lied.

Thank you for displaying the very same hatred and disbelief that the pagans showed toward the Early Church form believing in the Eucharist. They too accused Christians of being "cannibals".

Boy, the more times change - the more stupid remarks stay the SAME . .

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

They too accused Christians of being "cannibals".

No, the early church didn't think they were vampires and cannibals like the so call catholic "church" believes.

Boy, the more times change - the more stupid remarks stay the SAME . .

Stoopid is how the catholics conduct business

 

[nedsk]

Jesus clarified what Peter was told by the Father, I have clarified what Jesus has told the His Church. Same, same. This is how this works--the exact point of the passage.

But go ahead and laugh. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

And this rock I will build my church. I take Jesus at his word thanks and not a rando on the internet. You people are really "special".

 

[Taken]

Jesus said he was building a church on Peter.

Can you identify and quote the passage says that?

 

[nedsk]

I can see proof He created the universe

I'd like to see proof that your collar boy can turn the juice in to the literal Blood of Jesus and proof that he can turn the crackers in to the literal Flesh of Jesus as you folks engage in cannibalism and vampirism believing you are actually drinking human blood and eating human flesh






He didn't lie, the so called catholic "church" lied.






Where did Jesus say you are actually drinking human blood and eating human flesh?

What the so called catholic "church" is engaging in is witchcraft and occult rituals






Oh you will be.

How many lanes are there are he road over your head?

First a God that can create a universe from nothing is powerful enough to turn bread add wine into his body and blood

Second does God know he needs your seeing his miracles to be legit?

 

[nedsk]

Can you identify and quote the passage says that?

Sure Matt 16:18

 

[nedsk]

No, the early church didn't think they were vampires and cannibals like the so call catholic "church" believes.






Stoopid is how the catholics conduct business

Really? Notice the date skippy, St Justin Martyr from 155AD long before the heretic luther your leader came along

"For we do not receive these as common bread and common drink; but just as Jesus Christ our Savior, having been made flesh by the word of God, had both flesh and blood for our salvation, so also we have learned that the food over which thanks has been given by the prayer of the word which comes from him, and by which are blood and flesh are nourished through a change, is the Flesh and Blood of the same incarnate Jesus."

Then theres St Ignatius of Antioch from 110AD

"I am God’s grain, and I am being ground by the teeth of wild beasts in order that I may be found [to be] pure bread for Christ. My love has been crucified, and there is in me no fire of material love, but rather a living water, speaking in me and saying within me, ‘Come to the Father.’ I take no pleasure in corruptible food or in the delights of this life. I want the bread of God,which is the flesh of Jesus Christ, who is the seed of David; and for drink I want his Blood which is incorruptible love."

You should stop talking but you wont

 

[ScottA]

And this rock I will build my church. I take Jesus at his word thanks and not a rando on the internet. You people are really "special".

These are the "highways and hedges"--and you are among those who bought oxen. But no, you have not taken Jesus at his Word, but have taken the way he said he would "not" build His Church.

 

[Taken]

Sure Matt 16:18

Thanks.



I read Jesus chose two Simon’s.
(this) Simon’s father was Jona and Simon was called Simon Barjona..(meaning Simon son of Jona.)

Jesus asked his Disciples several questions.
The question regarding WHO Jesus IS…God provided Simon Barjona the Answer. And the following…
Jesus acknowledges Simon Barjons’s Blessing to have God give him the correct answer.

Previously, several Disciples, had or were given Surnames.
Simon Barjona was one of the Disciples given a Surname, called Simon Peter.

Matt. 16:18 Jesus Now addresses (This Simon) by his Surname Peter that which Jesus had previously been addressing him.

The significance is not about …
Simon Barjona (Surname) Peter…

The Significance is The Answer to Jesus’ Question…and the “THING” / “Rock”
upon which Jesus would Build “His” Church, is not a Person…
Rather the Fact direct knowledge from God…that JESUS IS THE CHRIST, the SON of the Living God.

Jesus continues Building HIS Church UPON the ROCK (Gods Own Assured Revealed Word).

Every organization claiming to be a CHRISTian organization… Establish their organization upon the ROCK, trustworthy True Revelation from God…
“That JESUS IS the CHRIST, the SON of the LIVING God”…

[16] And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

Matt 16:
[17] And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

[18] And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

I will disagree…
Rather that …

This rock is the Answer Simon gave to Jesus’ question, not Peter.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[BreadOfLife]

No, the early church didn't think they were vampires and cannibals like the so call catholic "church" believes.

But, just like YOU - the PAGANS of the time sure thought so.
Apparently, you’ve never read any 1st and 2nd century documents.
Allow me to educate yu . . .

We read in the works of Josephus, Pliny and Minucius Felix that the Early Christians were accused of eating live human flesh and drinking blood for their belief in the Eucharist. They were ostracized and persecuted for being, “cannibals”.

Excerpt from The Octavius of Minucius Felix
Charge: Cannibalism
CAECILIUS THE PAGAN: “You Christians are the worst breed ever to affect the world. You deserve every punishment you can get! Nobody likes you. It would be better if you and your Jesus had never been born. We hear that you are all cannibals--you eat the flesh of your children in your sacred meetings.”

Gee - sounds like a 21st century ignoramus I know of . . .

Stoopid is how the catholics conduct business

No - "Stupid" is to live in constant denial of Histtory. . .

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Apparently, you’ve never read any 1st and 2nd century documents.

Unlike the catholics, I follow what the Lord said in His Word

Catholics claim the Lord is stoopid and forgot to put all the teaching he wants man to know about in His Word so catholics think they have to add to God's Word to help Him out since He was absent minded and stoopid.

That's what catholics are claiming by going outside of God's Word for Truth which of course is why the catholics are up to their backsides in false doctrine and are living in the fast line on the highway to hell doing their best to get their as quickly as they can.

Really sad too seeing how catholics spit in the Lord's face as they do.

"Stupid" is to live in constant denial of Histtory. . .

Actually stoopid is rejecting what the Lord teaches in His Word to join up with the catholic cult.

 

[Taken]

No - "Stupid" is to live in constant denial of Histtory. . .

History is Ancient, Old, Modern, Yesterday, Selective, Elective, based on Gods Word Revelations, Mens Hearing, Reading, Verification, Lack of Verification, Acceptance, Rejection, Opinions, Beliefs, Misunderstandings, Acts….to This Day.

One BELIEVING another is Wrong, Stupid, Ignorant, Dumb, Heretic IS OPINIONS.

One CALLING another Wrong, Stupid, Ignorant, Dumb, Heretic… IS ACCUSATIONS based ON the one calling BELIEFS.

The FACT IS:
Other mens Opinions, Beliefs, Acceptance, Rejection, Accusations, Between men, IS utterly IRRELEVANT, Regarding ONE MANS RELATIONSHIP WITH God or WITH IN Christ.

ASIDE from mens personal Opinions and Accusations Against Other men…

God SHALL Forgive, Cover, Sanctify, Save, Quicken, Redeem, Raise up in Glory Men WITH Him.

Christ SHALL Forgive, Cover, Sanctify, Save, Quicken, Redeem, Raise up in Glory Men WITH-IN Him.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[BreadOfLife]

History is Ancient, Old, Modern, Yesterday, Selective, Elective, based on Gods Word Revelations, Mens Hearing, Reading, Verification, Lack of Verification, Acceptance, Rejection, Opinions, Beliefs, Misunderstandings, Acts….to This Day.

One BELIEVING another is Wrong, Stupid, Ignorant, Dumb, Heretic IS OPINIONS.

One CALLING another Wrong, Stupid, Ignorant, Dumb, Heretic… IS ACCUSATIONS based ON the one calling BELIEFS.

The FACT IS:
Other mens Opinions, Beliefs, Acceptance, Rejection, Accusations, Between men, IS utterly IRRELEVANT, Regarding ONE MANS RELATIONSHIP WITH God or WITH IN Christ.

ASIDE from mens personal Opinions and Accusations Against Other men…

God SHALL Forgive, Cover, Sanctify, Save, Quicken, Redeem, Raise up in Glory Men WITH Him.

Christ SHALL Forgive, Cover, Sanctify, Save, Quicken, Redeem, Raise up in Glory Men WITH-IN Him.

Glory to God,
Taken

Thank you for another barrage of your verbal diarrhea that makes absolutely ZERO sense.

The fact remains that living in denial is just plain stupid . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Unlike the catholics, I follow what the Lord said in His Word

Catholics claim the Lord is stoopid and forgot to put all the teaching he wants man to know about in His Word so catholics think they have to add to God's Word to help Him out since He was absent minded and stoopid.

That's what catholics are claiming by going outside of God's Word for Truth which of course is why the catholics are up to their backsides in false doctrine and are living in the fast line on the highway to hell doing their best to get their as quickly as they can.

Really sad too seeing how catholics spit in the Lord's face as they do.

Can you show me where the Bible says that ALL of GHod’s Word is encompassed in the Bible?
CHAPTER and VERSE, please . . .

You see – MY Bible states emphatically, that His Word is conveyed to us through what is written – AND through Oral Tradition (2 Thess. 2:15).
He left His CHURCH as His mouthpiece (Matt. 16:19, Matt. 18:18, Luke 10:16).

Before the Bible was compiled and the Canon declared in the 4th century – HOW do you think all of those people heard the Word of God, Einstein??
THINK, son . . .

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

THINK, son . . .

 

[nedsk]

These are the "highways and hedges"--and you are among those who bought oxen. But no, you have not taken Jesus at his Word, but have taken the way he said he would "not" build His Church.

But alas, You are Peter on this rock I will build my church..... I mean it couldnt be plainer and NOTHING you people believe existed before the looney little monk.

 

[ScottA]

But alas, You are Peter on this rock I will build my church..... I mean it couldnt be plainer and NOTHING you people believe existed before the looney little monk.

Your lack of comprehension is showing.

PS, If you can receive it:

He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”​

16 Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”​

17 Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. 18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” Matthew 16:15-19.​

If you break down the passage properly, Jesus says that Peter is blessed for having received the knowledge that Jesus was the Christ. Then He states the difference between what He will build His Church upon, and what He would "not" build it upon. That is the context. Then He simply states in further clarification, that he is Peter...meaning "not" God, followed by the greater Rock stated as building on what comes "from My Father who is in heaven." Which he then further clarified the context, saying, "I also say to you."

In other words, Jesus was "not" speaking "of" Peter--but "to" Peter.

 

[nedsk]

Your lack of comprehension is showing.

PS, If you can receive it:

He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”​

16 Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”​

17 Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. 18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” Matthew 16:15-19.​

If you break down the passage properly, Jesus says that Peter is blessed for having received the knowledge that Jesus was the Christ. Then He states the difference between what He will build His Church upon, and what He would "not" build it upon. That is the context. Then He simply states in further clarification, that he is Peter...meaning "not" God, followed by the greater Rock stated as building on what comes "from My Father who is in heaven." Which he then further clarified the context, saying, "I also say to you."

In other words, Jesus was "not" speaking "of" Peter--but "to" Peter.

It never ends with you people. " If you break done the passage "properly"...(another LOL moment) by which you mean, the way YOU interpret it. You dont have any authority I recognize. Also are you completely oblivious to the silly argument that protestants use regarding the name of Peter or Petros vs Petra(meaning rock or pebble and the male female derivation) from the greek? Clearly Jesus is saying on this Petra or Petros (Peter = rock) i will build my church. Its unlikely Jesus intended for there to be 20,000 christian denominations even though he knew it would happen. Again NOTHING you believe existed before the appearance of the looney little monk.