Interesting that the Bible is "the Word of God", unless someone quotes a translation you disagree with.
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pandaflower
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That's a good question.
The 103% means there are both additions and subtractions to and from the originals.
Somebody cooked the books.
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Dan and I were at a bar in London, where I drilled him for a few hours with questions. This statement was said to me by Dan. However, this statement appears in a few of his articles and books. I have almost all his books and articles, so I will invest some time into looking through my library to see if I can find that quote later tonight.
pandaflower
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Thank you for your time. I think that information invaluable for serious students of Bible study.
No such thing as an unbiased translation. And you know what, you can see bias in the manuscripts and dictionaries.A work in progress?
When will we have a Bible? ( a real unbiased translation)
In BIBLE we trust? - Misplaced allegiance?
Seems too many make an idol of their personal interpretation of the Bible. Claiming theirs is the only truth and that others are "of the devil" because their view differs. What's wrong with this picture? Misplaced allegiance. Religious fiefdoms. Building walls, instead of bridges. - What is...www.christianityboard.com
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pandaflower
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Which is why we must believe in God, not believe in,worship , the Bible.
God predates the book.
How do we believe God if his book is biased by the translators? The best solution I know of is to discipline yourself and take a little time each day to learn the Greek NT.
pandaflower
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David in NJ
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When are you going to surrender to "Thy word is Truth"Would you surrender your own beliefs in the cause of doctrinal unity? To end disputes?
Would you surrender your own beliefs in the cause of doctrinal unity?
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David in NJ
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God made a Better Way then that.
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The extortion gospel - "believe or burn" - not really a choice
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Taken
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All Scriptural is True.
Disciples… followers
Apostles….followers, taught, sent to Preach.
Names…YIKES…Common in Jesus’ Days on Earth…
multiple Scriptural characters having the SAME names and the Translations and the multiple meaning of WORDS, and changing the meanings of Words, to mean the Complete opposite / different meaning.
Examples;
John’s
Simon’s
James’
Judas’
Levi’s
Joseph’s
Mary’s
Race= Hebrews, Gentiles, Israelites, Jews, pigment of skin.
Gay- Festive, Joyful.
* Odd, Queer
Cool- mild weather temperature.
* Hip, Hot.
Babe-natural born infant.
* Shapely attractive Female, hot.
Traditions- Religious Mosaic Law of special days for HEBREWS, ISRAELITES, JEWS remembrances to gather celebrate.
* Modern man made religious “traditions”.
* And…Sports, Birthdays, Anniversaries, skin color, Disasters and “just because”…party.
The Gospels ARE “according to” Matthew, Mark, Luke, John.
Giving rise to, what they individually saw, heard, spoke and was written down by (a scribe/ note taker/ secretary)….then given a “recorder”….”transcriber”…to write on Scrolls…thereafter Copied to Books…
Each from the Apostles…to the extent of everyone else’s Language, Vocabulary, Writing and Editing skills…
Pretty Phenomenal considering the broad and usual Illiteracy rate among the vast majority of people.
Errors? Maybe, but I think more-so is the wide range of language and cultures.
Taken
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New topic:
The extortion gospel - "believe or burn" - not really a choice
Is the gospel preached from most pulpits really a choice? What are the stated consequences for refusing the "free gift" of eternal life? The "believe or burn" gospel amounts to extortion. A decision based on fear of the stated consequences for refusal. - Does God honor a decision based on...
Believe or Not is a mans FREEWILL choice.
Believe or Burn… is a frightening Half Truth Consequence
Believe…IN the Lord God and Become MADE perfected to remain Alive Forever with the Lord God.
Or
Reject Belief… IN the Lord God and Become MADE Dead and returned to Dust and Forgotten.
Living men…
Living souls…
Are NOT burned alive IN Hell (or the Lake of Fire)
^ False frightening scare tactics teaching.
Glory to God,
Taken
John 3:16
KJ21
“For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
ASV
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life.
AMP
“For God so [greatly] loved and dearly prized the world, that He [even] gave His [One and] only begotten Son, so that whoever believes and trusts in Him [as Savior] shall not perish, but have eternal life.
AMPC
For God so greatly loved and dearly prized the world that He [even] gave up His only begotten (unique) Son, so that whoever believes in (trusts in, clings to, relies on) Him shall not perish (come to destruction, be lost) but have eternal (everlasting) life.
BRG
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
CSB
For God loved the world in this way: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.
CSBA
For God loved the world in this way: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.
CEB
God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him won’t perish but will have eternal life.
CJB
“For God so loved the world that he gave his only and unique Son, so that everyone who trusts in him may have eternal life, instead of being utterly destroyed.
CEV
God loved the people of this world so much that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who has faith in him will have eternal life and never really die.
DARBY
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only-begotten Son, that whosoever believes on him may not perish, but have life eternal.
DLNT
“For God so loved the world that He gave His only-born Son, in order that everyone believing in Him may not perish, but may have eternal life.
DRA
For God so loved the world, as to give his only begotten Son; that whosoever believeth in him, may not perish, but may have life everlasting.
ERV
Yes, God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him would not be lost but have eternal life.
EASY
God loved the people in the world so much that he gave his one and only Son to save them. As a result, everyone who believes in the Son will not die. Instead, they will live for ever with God.’
EHV
“For God so loved the world that he gave his only-begotten Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
ESV
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
ESVUK
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
EXB
“[L For] God loved the world so much that he gave his ·one and only [only; unique; T only begotten; 1:14, 18] Son so that whoever believes in him may not ·be lost [T perish], but have eternal life.
GNV
For God so loveth the world, that he hath given his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life.
GW
God loved the world this way: He gave his only Son so that everyone who believes in him will not die but will have eternal life.
GNT
For God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not die but have eternal life.
HCSB
“For God loved the world in this way: He gave His One and Only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life.
ICB
“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son. God gave his Son so that whoever believes in him may not be lost, but have eternal life.
ISV
“For this is how God loved the world: He gave his uniquely existing Son so that everyone who believes in him would not be lost but have eternal life.
PHILLIPS
“So you are a teacher of Israel,” said Jesus, “and you do not recognise such things? I assure you that we are talking about something we really know and we are witnessing to something we have actually observed, yet men like you will not accept our evidence. Yet if I have spoken to you about things which happen on this earth and you will not believe me, what chance is there that you will believe me if I tell you about what happens in Heaven? No one has ever been up to Heaven except the Son of Man who came down from Heaven. The Son of Man must be lifted above the heads of men—as Moses lifted up that serpent in the desert—so that any man who believes in him may have eternal life. For God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son, so that every one who believes in him shall not be lost, but should have eternal life. You must understand that God has not sent his Son into the world to pass sentence upon it, but to save it—through him. Any man who believes in him is not judged at all. It is the one who will not believe who stands already condemned, because he will not believe in the character of God’s only Son. This is the judgment—that light has entered the world and men have preferred darkness to light because their deeds are evil. Anybody who does wrong hates the light and keeps away from it, for fear his deeds may be exposed. But anybody who is living by the truth will come to the light to make it plain that all he has done has been done through God.”
JUB
For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
KJV
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
AKJV
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
LSB
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
LEB
For in this way God loved the world, so that he gave his one and only Son, in order that everyone who believes in him will not perish, but will have eternal life.
TLB
For God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son so that anyone who believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
MSG
“This is how much God loved the world: He gave his Son, his one and only Son. And this is why: so that no one need be destroyed; by believing in him, anyone can have a whole and lasting life. God didn’t go to all the trouble of sending his Son merely to point an accusing finger, telling the world how bad it was. He came to help, to put the world right again. Anyone who trusts in him is acquitted; anyone who refuses to trust him has long since been under the death sentence without knowing it. And why? Because of that person’s failure to believe in the one-of-a-kind Son of God when introduced to him.
MEV
“For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life.
MOUNCE
“For this is how God loved · the world: he gave his one and only Son · that everyone who believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
NOG
God loved the world this way: He gave his only Son so that everyone who believes in him will not die but will have eternal life.
NABRE
For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him might not perish but might have eternal life.
NASB
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life.
NASB1995
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
NCB
“For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may attain eternal life.
NCV
“God loved the world so much that he gave his one and only Son so that whoever believes in him may not be lost, but have eternal life.
NET
For this is the way God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.
NIRV
God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son. Anyone who believes in him will not die but will have eternal life.
NIV
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
NIVUK
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
NKJV
all means the same thing to me.
pandaflower
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All versions are translated by man.
Man
Translating the words God wants us to understand?
Think about that. A perfect God inspires condemned from birth humans to interpret his words to bring us into a better world than this one.
computers AI is now used too. All readers are human too.
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