Dave Watchman
Active Member
I do have appreciation for the information in your note. My reason for posting today is so that people wouldn't worry about the mark of the beast. I think this is happening to all people, rich and poor, all over the world. I don't know that there is a specific "church" component to it. There may be one covered in the seven churches prophecy. I'm not too sure at this time.
I think I am sure this verse is just fulfilled recently in a way that will eventually surprise people at some point. There's only one group of people who did not worship the image of the beast, or take it's mark. Worship comes from the word proskuneo and also means to obey.
Only group that didn't worship the image of the beast.
Knew You in Womb
The phrase "I knew you when you were still in the womb" is derived from the biblical verse "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations" from Jeremiah 1. This verse is part of God's call to the prophet Jeremiah, emphasizing that God had a specific plan and purpose for him even before his birth. The Hebrew word translated as "knew" in this context implies a deep, personal relationship rather than mere intellectual knowledge.
It suggests that God had a profound awareness and care for Jeremiah even before his conception. This concept is also reflected in other biblical passages, such as Galatians 1, where the apostle Paul states that God set him apart from his mother's womb. The idea that God knows and has a purpose for each individual before their birth is a significant theme in Christian theology, highlighting the belief in divine foreknowledge and predestination.
I'm thinking of an abortion method where they begin to pull the baby out, but as the head is too big to pass through, they remove the contents of the infant's head using a suction device, and the soft scull collapses and can then be removed. The baby is essentially beheaded.
5. American physicians' reactions to vacuum aspiration
Despite efforts to popularize the technique, American physicians' initial reactions to the new technology were mixed. Some physicians were reluctant to try it for both medical and political reasons. Feminists, such as Patricia Maginnis (who was also the president of the Society for Humane Abortion), were recommending the apparatus long before most American doctors had even heard of the technique. Physicians who were not involved in the abortion rights movement often regarded activist women with contempt and suspicion, and did not want to associate themselves, even technologically, with women who sought to destabilize the medical hierarchy by taking reproduction into their own hands. Other physicians, particularly those over fifty, who in medical school were told that the D&C was "the answer to all female complaints", were reluctant to learn a new technique so far along in their careers. Meanwhile, those working in secrecy either could not afford the machinery, or did not want to take the risk of working with equipment that could not be easily moved should a police raid occur 37.
Some physicians derived their negative opinions about electrical vacuum aspiration from personal experience. Minnesota physician Jane Hodgson disparaged the new apparatus: "Our first equipment was crude, noisy and even dangerous. The vacuum pressure was not measured. Some of the earliest equipment simply utilized the [powerful] wall suction in the operating room, which was designed for use with fluid-draining equipment during surgery" 38. As New York obstetrician/gynecologist William Rashbaum recalled, "the suction machine was a pump attached to a Dixie cup, with the top held on with rubber bands (...) there were a number of deaths from the suction machine. If connected incorrectly the machine would blow instead of suction, causing some patients to die of air embolus" 39. The technological skepticism of these physicians was understandable. In the late 1960s, there still existed two technical drawbacks to the apparatus: the unpredictable suction, and the rigid metal cannulas whose use, like the D&C, required a fair amount of skill on the part of the operator, since any mistake could result in uterine perforation, infection, and possibly death 40.
On the other hand, there were many physicians who were excited about the new technology. It drew enormous praise from physicians practicing in large urban centers on the East and West Coasts, such as Barry Messinger and Daniel Fieldstone (pseudonym). Fieldstone completed his residency in obstetrics and gynecology (and presumably abortion training) at Mount Sinai Hospital, under the tutelage of Alan Guttmacher. He spent most of the 1950s and 1960s performing illegal abortions in New York, and was persuaded by his mentor to attend the 1968 Hot Springs Conference. The conference held both personal and professional significance for Fieldstone because it made him feel part of a legitimate community of "extralegal" abortion providers who were technological innovators in their own right. According to Fieldstone, "That meeting (...) really changed everything. It brought together (...) what was known then about techniques.' Like many of the physicians at the conference whose hospital-based abortion experience was limited to the D&C method, Fieldstone [instantly recognized the power of the] vacuum suction machine, which [seemed to be] a far safer method of early abortion. The suction was an eye opener, it was such a superior technique -it shocked us" 41.
The phrase "I knew you when you were still in the womb" is derived from the biblical verse "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations" from Jeremiah 1. This verse is part of God's call to the prophet Jeremiah, emphasizing that God had a specific plan and purpose for him even before his birth. The Hebrew word translated as "knew" in this context implies a deep, personal relationship rather than mere intellectual knowledge.
It suggests that God had a profound awareness and care for Jeremiah even before his conception. This concept is also reflected in other biblical passages, such as Galatians 1, where the apostle Paul states that God set him apart from his mother's womb. The idea that God knows and has a purpose for each individual before their birth is a significant theme in Christian theology, highlighting the belief in divine foreknowledge and predestination.
I'm thinking of an abortion method where they begin to pull the baby out, but as the head is too big to pass through, they remove the contents of the infant's head using a suction device, and the soft scull collapses and can then be removed. The baby is essentially beheaded.
5. American physicians' reactions to vacuum aspiration
Despite efforts to popularize the technique, American physicians' initial reactions to the new technology were mixed. Some physicians were reluctant to try it for both medical and political reasons. Feminists, such as Patricia Maginnis (who was also the president of the Society for Humane Abortion), were recommending the apparatus long before most American doctors had even heard of the technique. Physicians who were not involved in the abortion rights movement often regarded activist women with contempt and suspicion, and did not want to associate themselves, even technologically, with women who sought to destabilize the medical hierarchy by taking reproduction into their own hands. Other physicians, particularly those over fifty, who in medical school were told that the D&C was "the answer to all female complaints", were reluctant to learn a new technique so far along in their careers. Meanwhile, those working in secrecy either could not afford the machinery, or did not want to take the risk of working with equipment that could not be easily moved should a police raid occur 37.
Some physicians derived their negative opinions about electrical vacuum aspiration from personal experience. Minnesota physician Jane Hodgson disparaged the new apparatus: "Our first equipment was crude, noisy and even dangerous. The vacuum pressure was not measured. Some of the earliest equipment simply utilized the [powerful] wall suction in the operating room, which was designed for use with fluid-draining equipment during surgery" 38. As New York obstetrician/gynecologist William Rashbaum recalled, "the suction machine was a pump attached to a Dixie cup, with the top held on with rubber bands (...) there were a number of deaths from the suction machine. If connected incorrectly the machine would blow instead of suction, causing some patients to die of air embolus" 39. The technological skepticism of these physicians was understandable. In the late 1960s, there still existed two technical drawbacks to the apparatus: the unpredictable suction, and the rigid metal cannulas whose use, like the D&C, required a fair amount of skill on the part of the operator, since any mistake could result in uterine perforation, infection, and possibly death 40.
On the other hand, there were many physicians who were excited about the new technology. It drew enormous praise from physicians practicing in large urban centers on the East and West Coasts, such as Barry Messinger and Daniel Fieldstone (pseudonym). Fieldstone completed his residency in obstetrics and gynecology (and presumably abortion training) at Mount Sinai Hospital, under the tutelage of Alan Guttmacher. He spent most of the 1950s and 1960s performing illegal abortions in New York, and was persuaded by his mentor to attend the 1968 Hot Springs Conference. The conference held both personal and professional significance for Fieldstone because it made him feel part of a legitimate community of "extralegal" abortion providers who were technological innovators in their own right. According to Fieldstone, "That meeting (...) really changed everything. It brought together (...) what was known then about techniques.' Like many of the physicians at the conference whose hospital-based abortion experience was limited to the D&C method, Fieldstone [instantly recognized the power of the] vacuum suction machine, which [seemed to be] a far safer method of early abortion. The suction was an eye opener, it was such a superior technique -it shocked us" 41.
Peaceful Sabbath.
