Rapture ... soon?

[Bladerunner]

Welp! Back to the ol’ spiritual roulette wheel, folks—spin it and land on ‘Jesus was just confused’ and ‘the apostles were clearly winging it.’ I mean, who needs divine revelation when you’ve got vibes and a TikTok algorithm?


Surely someone here is qualified to headline the Day of the LORD™—maybe with pyrotechnics and a fog machine? Step right up, prophets of Wi-Fi and vibes!


And don’t forget the sacred mantra: ‘It’s my way or the highway!’—straight from the Gospel of Self, chapter YOLO, verse #Unbothered.”

what are you speaking about....????

 

[MatthewG]

what are you speaking about....????

Comical and Satire. The overopinionated people of the world.

 

[Bladerunner]

There is only One Reusrrected body in Heaven = Lord Jesus Christ
JESUS is the only man who was resurrected and ascended to Heaven in Body Soul and Spirit

The EVENT is not the rapture!!!

The EVENT is the Second Coming of Christ by which HE resurrects all who have died in Faith in the Word

AFTER that EVENT, the remaining saints who are alive on earth will be caught-up/raptured and their physical bodies are transformed into Glorified Eternal Bodies

Follow the TRUTH which never lies = GOSPEL , 1 & 2nd Thessalonians , Revelation

But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.

For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.
After that, we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.
Therefore comfort one another with these words.

Arminian theology. not good.

 

[Bladerunner]

Comical and Satire. The overopinionated people of the world.

Can assure you that the Word of GOD is neither Comical nor Satirical. You need to put yourself in the next verse that came out of your mind for it is obvious, you know nothing of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

 

[David in NJ]

Arminian theology. not good.

Please point out that which is "not good" - thank you

 

[MatthewG]

Can assure you that the Word of GOD is neither Comical nor Satirical. You need to put yourself in the next verse that came out of your mind for it is obvious, you know nothing of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Thank you for sharing your perspective. I fully agree that the Word of God is holy, unchanging, and not to be treated lightly. Hebrews 4:12 reminds us, “For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword…”—it cuts deep, and it deserves reverence.

My use of satire or humor is never meant to mock the Gospel, but to challenge cultural noise and provoke thought in a way that leads people back to truth. Like Paul, I try to “become all things to all people, that by all means I might save some” (1 Corinthians 9:22). That includes using language and tone that resonate with the world we’re in, while never compromising the message itself.

I welcome correction and conversation, and I’m always seeking to grow in understanding. If anything I’ve said has caused confusion or offense, I appreciate the chance to clarify. My heart is to point people to Christ—through whatever creative means He’s given me.

 

[David in NJ]

I want you to prove that what I said; "the rapture has no pre-events attached to it: is a lie.

Believe JESUS at His word(s)???

1st Event that must occur before His Return = Matthew 24:1-2 = this "must happen" has been fulfilled

2nd Event(s) that must occur before His Return= Matt 24:4-8 = continually being fulfilled and will continue right up to JESUS Return

3rd Event(s) that must occur before His Return = Matt 24:9-12 = continuing

4th Event(s) that must occur before His Return = Matt 24:13-14 = continuing

5th Event(s) that must occur before His Return = Matt 24:15-22

6th Event(s) that must occur before His Return = Matt 24:26 = continuing

7th Event(s) that must occur before His Return = Matt 24:29 = VERY NEAR FUTURE = in progress NOW

JESUS Says these things MUST occur before His Return

 

[MatthewG]

I find it quite dismissive to suggest that I lack understanding of Jesus Christ or the Gospel. Such a remark comes across as unnecessarily rude and condescending. While I won’t hold it against you personally, I do believe comments like that reflect a level of immaturity that hinders meaningful dialogue. @Bladerunner

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

The LAST DAY must be a standard day, why?
Because the dead are raised on the Last Day
How much sense would it make to have the Last Day be a 1000 years long?
A day is in context in scripture here as a day
Also is the Day of judgment a 1000 years long?

Is the appointed DAY not just a day?

Acts 17:30-32​

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New King James Version​

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30 Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent, 31 because He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained. He has given assurance of this to all by raising Him from the dead.”
32 And when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked, while others said, “We will hear you again on this matter.”

1. John 6:39
   This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day.
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2. John 6:40
   And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”
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3. John 6:44
   No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.
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4. John 6:54
   Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.
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5. John 7:37
   

   The Promise of the Holy Spirit​

   On the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink.
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6. John 11:24
   Martha said to Him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”
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7. John 12:48
   He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him— the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day.
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Last day of the Church Age, which is also the last day of Satan's/ Antichrist's rule. Then there will be another age called the Millennial Kingdom - there will be a last day in that age as well. Btw, the earth still spins, hence more days.
* 2 Peter 3:10 does not happen until after the MK as it clearly states in scripture and also at which time the New Jerusalem comes down from heaven to replace the 1st earth that just got destroyed with the 1ST heavens.
Know Rev. 11:15, the 7th Trumpet is blown, AND THE LORD _ THAT MOMENT _ ON TUAT DAY_ BEGINS HIS RULE OVER THE ENTIRE WORLD.
" The kingdoms of the world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ and He shall reign forever and ever."
That is the last day. This is why I believe that our resurrection happens at this time. Heaven is opened, the dead are judged ,rewards are given, His wrath comes with he release if the 7 Bowls. So right there, it's not over yet - more days to come, but it is the last day of that age when Satan has his rule. Our arrives and immediately puts an e d to Satan's and the Antichrist's rule which lasted 1260 days and a new Era has arrived. Finishing up with his judgments 40-75 days longer.
The GT is a 3 1/2 period, not 7 as the Pre-Tribbers claim. We see that in several places, 1260 days, 42 months (in Revelation); 1290 in Daniel 12 and "Blessed are those who endure to day 1335.
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[Bladerunner]

Thank you for sharing your perspective. I fully agree that the Word of God is holy, unchanging, and not to be treated lightly. Hebrews 4:12 reminds us, “For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword…”—it cuts deep, and it deserves reverence.

agree

My use of satire or humor is never meant to mock the Gospel, but to challenge cultural noise and provoke thought in a way that leads people back to truth. Like Paul, I try to “become all things to all people, that by all means I might save some” (1 Corinthians 9:22).

Rem, we can not save anyone. all we can do is give the actual Word of GOD from His Book, the Bible.

That includes using language and tone that resonate with the world we’re in, while never compromising the message itself.

Use His Word to persuade them, not your words....Satire will not help.change anyone's mind.

I welcome correction and conversation, and I’m always seeking to grow in understanding. If anything I’ve said has caused confusion or offense, I appreciate the chance to clarify. My heart is to point people to Christ—through whatever creative means He’s given me

You said it all in the 1st paragraph. thanks. Blessings

 

[MatthewG]

agree

Rem, we can not save anyone. all we can do is give the actual Word of GOD from His Book, the Bible.

Use His Word to persuade them, not your words....Satire will not help.change anyone's mind.

You said it all in the 1st paragraph. thanks. Blessings

"I can quote scripture all day, but if someone refuses to challenge the traditions they've been taught or reconsider their beliefs, that's on them—not me or anyone else."

 

[JohnDB]

Last week the rapture happened....

This is an automated reply....

We are gone and left all you scripture choppers behind.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

There us only one prerequisite for salvation, that one believes that Jesus died fornour sins, was buried and rose from the dead according to the scriptures.
I know JW's theology. Ask any of them and they would claim to believe in that statement.
Granted they have false doctrines, are non-Trinitarian, believe Jesus is Michael

That's why they are not saved.... they think Michael is their lord and savior....

 

[Bladerunner]

"I can quote scripture all day, but if someone refuses to challenge the traditions they've been taught or reconsider their beliefs, that's on them—not me or anyone else."

All you can do is tell the WORDs of GOD (as written) and let GOD do the Rest...there will be those, He will do nothing. But you can obey Him by simply letting them hear His WORDs.

 

[MatthewG]

Last week the rapture happened....

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We are gone and left all you scripture choppers behind.

Thats why I love satire... Apparently one way to do it is post, and then throw away the account. Huh maybe it did happen already... - Jinkies! -

All you can do is tell the WORDs of GOD (as written) and let GOD do the Rest...there will be those, He will do nothing. But you can obey Him by simply letting them hear His WORDs.

Yes, I understand sharing the bible scriptures and allowing people to choose for themselves. But like you stated earlier concerning not saving anyone. It's everyones choice. I only glorify God in it all, and his son Yeshua.

 

[David in NJ]

Last week the rapture happened....

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We are gone and left all you scripture choppers behind.

But wait, there's more!!!

 

[Bladerunner]

But wait, there's more!!!

You do not realize what is going to happen when the restrainer is removed during the Rapture. The World will find evil has become unbearable.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Believe JESUS at His word(s)???

1st Event that must occur before His Return = Matthew 24:1-2 = this "must happen" has been fulfilled

2nd Event(s) that must occur before His Return= Matt 24:4-8 = continually being fulfilled and will continue right up to JESUS Return

3rd Event(s) that must occur before His Return = Matt 24:9-12 = continuing

4th Event(s) that must occur before His Return = Matt 24:13-14 = continuing

5th Event(s) that must occur before His Return = Matt 24:15-22

6th Event(s) that must occur before His Return = Matt 24:26 = continuing

7th Event(s) that must occur before His Return = Matt 24:29 = VERY NEAR FUTURE = in progress NOW

JESUS Says these things MUST occur before His Return

Agreed except for Matt. 24:14. This is the key event that triggers the end. The gospel has been preached throughout the world to every nation. This had recently been accomplished and inlybin our generation. Likey every tribe as well. But obviously we continue to get to individuals, which could never be completly fulfilled with almost 400k born everyday. Likely every adult has heard the gospel. So the beginning of the end is at hand.

 

[PinSeeker]

Just one correction

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JESUS says HE will not Return until after the "man of sin/AC"

Hmmm... Well, I don't disagree, at least not yet... <smile> I think I know, but so as not to put words in your mouth, David, to what are you referring? I'll just say that the "man of lawlessness" Paul speaks of in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 is synonymous with the antichrist that John speaks of in his epistles. So, did John intend for us to envision some particular person as the antichrist, or did he mean that any self-conscious opponent of the faith is an antichrist (1 John 2:18, 22; 4:3; 2 John 7)? I say the latter, and in the same way, by "man of lawlessness" in 2 Thessalonians 2, Paul was not speaking of one particular person either. One thing we can be sure of: There will always be political beasts and ecclesiastical antichrists who seek to oppose the truth, and we must always be on our guard against them. And there will be more and more of them as the end of the age approaches. It's a common thing to refer to a corporation... as a large business entity made up of many people... as "the man." That's how that passage is to be read.

As for Jesus, what he does say, in Matthew 24, is, "many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray," (v 5) and "many false prophets will arise and lead many astray... because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold... the one who endures to the end will be saved" (vv 11-13).

Still, though, you may be referring to something else...

Grace and peace to you.

 

[Bladerunner]

Agreed except for Matt. 24:14. This is the key event that triggers the end. The gospel has been preached throughout the world to every nation. This had recently been accomplished and inlybin our generation. Likey every tribe as well. But obviously we continue to get to individuals, which could never be completly fulfilled with almost 400k born everyday. Likely every adult has heard the gospel. So the beginning of the end is at hand.

Think both of you need to re-read Revelation..If you read and understand it, you get a blessing from God. (His WOrds)