WARNING: Many Who Now Speak SPEAK AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT.

[soberxp]

confuscious say many things .
BUT what JESUS said IS TRUE and is TRUTH .
Let us all beware the realm of confuscious for by his carnal wisdom he will surely lead one astray and into
the mindset of a huge kuymbia .
JESUS said what HE SAID
men say what they say .
Any guesses on which of the TWO i am gonna heed .
JESUS .
Very dire warnings about the dire need TO BELEIVE ON HIM , OR PERISH . keep that in mind
the next time a ecumincal kuymbia train drives near you . THEY LIE my friend . BUT GOD cannot lie
and does NOT desire the death of the wicked
but rather they repent . SO LETS PREACH JESUS and not kuymbia endings for all . JESUS and the dire need to BELIEVE ON HIM .
Cause HE SAVES and one must BELEIVE to be saved .

This attitude of yours is clearly one of arrogance and pride. Do you think there is nothing we can learn or gain except from the Bible

19:14
But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

10:14
But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.

18:16
But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.

confuscious says:By nature, man is good at his birth.

1 Timothy 4:4
For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:


Do you think this contradicts what Jesus Christ said, or conflicts with religious dogma which states that even newborn infants are born in sin and a sinner.

Repent and repent and thank Confucius for letting you see the truth.

 

[MatthewG]

I think it is fine to use the Holy Spirit/the Spirit of Christ /the Spirit of God conjunctively.

The person of the Spirit need not have changed. While his relationship with man did change. Like you say the Holy Spirit would come upon people and make them prophecy. But now he indwells in the believers. What changed is we are now covered by the blood.

Perhaps the Spirit has a certain degree of tolerance for things that grieve him. Back in the days of Noah God said his Spirit will not contend with man forever, and his days were numbered. But through the consecration of us by the blood of Jesus Christ, the Spirit is able to tolerate living in our temple.

thank you

 

[MatthewG]

Hey @ScottA, I’ve been pondering something and wanted to get your take.


What do you think about the idea of prophecy ceasing?


I’ve come to believe that the kind of prophecy where God reveals new, authoritative messages has stopped. Hebrews 1:1–2 says, “God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son…” That feels like a transition point—God’s final and fullest revelation coming through Christ.


Then there’s Revelation 22:18–19, where John—receiving the vision from the angel sent by the Lord (Revelation 1:1)—warns not to add to or take away from the words of that prophecy. It reads like a closing seal on divine revelation.


And Paul touches this too in 1 Corinthians 13:8–10: “Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail… For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.” Some interpret “that which is perfect” as the completed canon of Scripture, suggesting that prophecy was a temporary gift until full revelation was given.


I know there are different views on this—some say prophecy continues in a different form—but I wanted to hear how you interpret it. From my perspective, the canon is closed, and the Spirit now illuminates what’s already been revealed rather than delivering new messages.


Would love to hear your thoughts.

still waiting but if you do not want to answer im not bothered

 

[amigo de christo]

This attitude of yours is clearly one of arrogance and pride. Do you think there is nothing we can learn or gain except from the Bible

19:14
But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

10:14
But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.

18:16
But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.

confuscious says:By nature, man is good at his birth.

1 Timothy 4:4
For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:


Do you think this contradicts what Jesus Christ said, or conflicts with religious dogma which states that even newborn infants are born in sin and a sinner.

Repent and repent and thank Confucius for letting you see the truth.

Confuscious can keep all his mind . PS , i never said YOU WERE confuscious , ONLY that
i can see carnal wisdom .
IF you cannot SEE the deadly deception of ecumincalism and its cry
YOU in deadly dire danger . IT DONT MEAN you have YET bought the lie,
BUT what i say to you i say to all , IF YOU ALL continue to sit under this ,
YOU WILL BUY THE LIE as many others in christendom already have .
FLEE this trap of darkness claoked as though its love and light .
ITS A liar . ITs mother is A HARLOT and its father is the dragon
and its son BE ANTI CHRIST .
THAT IS ITS FAMILY . IF you cannot see the dangers yet
THEN OPEN UP THE BIBLE AGAIN FOR YOU and START PRAYING .
I aint the monster friend . I AINT the one who is PRIDE FILLED .
YOU DONT SEE ME preaching that dung and acting as though somehow
all is well for unbeleivers in the end . YOU DONT SEE ME pr eaching T HAT REBELLION .
YOU SEE ME CONSTANTLY , DAILY and by the HOUR preaching and reminding all OF THE ABOSLUTE DIRE NEED
to BELEIVE ON JESUS to be saved . SORRY DUDE buts its yalls camp THAT IS FULL OF PRIDE .
I KNOW WHO THIS WORLD NEEDS
but ecumincalsim says OH its okay if one BELIEVES NOT . NOT ME friend . I KNOW WHO WE NEED
AND I KNOW WHO WE NEED TO BELIEVE IN TO BE SAVED . and it aint this fairy tale THAT SATANS WHORE
has pumped unto us through her ecumincial cup . SO what DO YOU SAY TO THAT .

 

[amigo de christo]

This attitude of yours is clearly one of arrogance and pride. Do you think there is nothing we can learn or gain except from the Bible

19:14
But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

10:14
But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.

18:16
But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.

confuscious says:By nature, man is good at his birth.

1 Timothy 4:4
For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:


Do you think this contradicts what Jesus Christ said, or conflicts with religious dogma which states that even newborn infants are born in sin and a sinner.

Repent and repent and thank Confucius for letting you see the truth.

Explain HOW telling everyone THEY MUST BELEIVE ON JESUS or perish IS PRIDE buddy .
ITS you all in pride , NOT ME

 

[Muna]

If perish is the goal, then what is the purpose of judgment? Is it merely to let people die with full knowledge and understanding before their perish?

It does say,

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,
but have everlasting life.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he,
ye shall die in your sins

Speaking of his words not passing away, Jesus also said,

John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken,
the same shall judge him in the last day.

 

[amigo de christo]

It does say,

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,
but have everlasting life.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he,
ye shall die in your sins

Speaking of his words not passing away, Jesus also said,

John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken,
the same shall judge him in the last day.

Truly , verily , I AM GONNA need lots of help my friend in these last hours .
YOU would be shocked as to what men have done and how they crept it into churches .
Ecumincalism IS NOT FROM GOD .
WE are being decieved . I must do as i must do my friend . many have hated me for doing so
but my desire has only been FOR THEIR GOOD .
People have no idea how large this is nor where its leading them right too .
I have been calling on volunteers to help me expose this .
YOU JUST GOT DRAFTED FRIEND . sorry but the volunteer phase is over . WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING .
ITS EVERYWHERE NOW . its just EVERYWHERE .
KEEP POINTING TO JESUS . KEEP POINTING TO JESUS and REMIND ALL of the TRUE HOPE
and never give out false hope . a lie cannot save , ONLY TRUTH saves .
WE speak T RUTH , WE POINT TO CHRIST . we offer up no other false hope . JESUS ONLY with the DIRE REMINDER
BELIEVE ON HIM or YOU WIL SURELY perish .

 

[soberxp]

It does say,

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,
but have everlasting life.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he,
ye shall die in your sins

Speaking of his words not passing away, Jesus also said,

John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken,
the same shall judge him in the last day.

that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,

shall judge him in the last day

If this is not a translation error, then it conveys one meaning: the destruction of this world.

And God will judge all mankind at the very end of this world's perish.

Therefore, my view is that people tend to interpret this "perish" as the destruction of one's life.

 

[Muna]

that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,

shall judge him in the last day

If this is not a translation error, then it conveys one meaning: the destruction of this world.

And God will judge all mankind at the very end of this world's perish.

Therefore, my view is that people tend to interpret this "perish" as the destruction of one's life.

If you do not cut off the end of the first verse it says in contrast

should not perish,
but have everlasting life.

 

[amigo de christo]

that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,

shall judge him in the last day

If this is not a translation error, then it conveys one meaning: the destruction of this world.

And God will judge all mankind at the very end of this world's perish.

Therefore, my view is that people tend to interpret this "perish" as the destruction of one's life.

IT WILL Be . You are in love with something that is not true .
PREACH JESUS and THE DIRE NEED TO BELEIVE ON HIM
and get every many woman and child back into the bible to learn .
You all keep seeing things through a lens that implies SURELY THEY WILL NOT PERISH
BUT OH YES THEY WILL .
HOW DID that work out for eve and for adam .
GOD said DO NOT eat of that tree in the midst for in the day ye do ye shall surely die.
ONLY the serpent would say NAY nay YE shall not surely die
WELL JESUS said it
AND I BELEIVE IT as do a child .
THEY WILL ALL DIE , PERISH IN THEIR SINS
IF THEY DO NOT BELEIVE HIM . I dont heed the serpent who tries to imply
SURELY they wont perish , THEY WILL . THE LAKE OF FIRE IS REAL .
And all unbeleivers WILL face it .
GET back to preaching JESUS . I KNOW HE SAVES and I KNOW ONE MUST BELEIVE IN HIM to be saved . REAL SIMPLE .

 

[amigo de christo]

If you do not cut off the end of the first verse it says in contrast

should not perish,
but have everlasting life.

Stand firm ON JESUS , stand FIRM on HIS words my friend . WE offer up NO OTHER HOPE but JESUS
PREACH HIM TO THE END my friend
WITH the dire REMINDER YE MUST BELIEVE ON HIM or YE WILL SURELY PERISH .

 

[Muna]

Truly , verily , I AM GONNA need lots of help my friend in these last hours .
YOU would be shocked as to what men have done and how they crept it into churches .
Ecumincalism IS NOT FROM GOD .
WE are being decieved . I must do as i must do my friend . many have hated me for doing so
but my desire has only been FOR THEIR GOOD .
People have no idea how large this is nor where its leading them right too .
I have been calling on volunteers to help me expose this .
YOU JUST GOT DRAFTED FRIEND . sorry but the volunteer phase is over . WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING .
ITS EVERYWHERE NOW . its just EVERYWHERE .
KEEP POINTING TO JESUS . KEEP POINTING TO JESUS and REMIND ALL of the TRUE HOPE
and never give out false hope . a lie cannot save , ONLY TRUTH saves .
WE speak T RUTH , WE POINT TO CHRIST . we offer up no other false hope . JESUS ONLY with the DIRE REMINDER
BELIEVE ON HIM or YOU WIL SURELY perish .

I had to look up the word, " Ecumincalism"

Its probably best to just use the scripture once or twice and then move on, they are best for correction.

I need to take my own advice about the twice thing

 

[soberxp]

Confuscious can keep all his mind . PS , i never said YOU WERE confuscious , ONLY that
i can see carnal wisdom .
IF you cannot SEE the deadly deception of ecumincalism and its cry
YOU in deadly dire danger . IT DONT MEAN you have YET bought the lie,
BUT what i say to you i say to all , IF YOU ALL continue to sit under this ,
YOU WILL BUY THE LIE as many others in christendom already have .
FLEE this trap of darkness claoked as though its love and light .
ITS A liar . ITs mother is A HARLOT and its father is the dragon
and its son BE ANTI CHRIST .
THAT IS ITS FAMILY . IF you cannot see the dangers yet
THEN OPEN UP THE BIBLE AGAIN FOR YOU and START PRAYING .
I aint the monster friend . I AINT the one who is PRIDE FILLED .
YOU DONT SEE ME preaching that dung and acting as though somehow
all is well for unbeleivers in the end . YOU DONT SEE ME pr eaching T HAT REBELLION .
YOU SEE ME CONSTANTLY , DAILY and by the HOUR preaching and reminding all OF THE ABOSLUTE DIRE NEED
to BELEIVE ON JESUS to be saved . SORRY DUDE buts its yalls camp THAT IS FULL OF PRIDE .
I KNOW WHO THIS WORLD NEEDS
but ecumincalsim says OH its okay if one BELIEVES NOT . NOT ME friend . I KNOW WHO WE NEED
AND I KNOW WHO WE NEED TO BELIEVE IN TO BE SAVED . and it aint this fairy tale THAT SATANS WHORE
has pumped unto us through her ecumincial cup . SO what DO YOU SAY TO THAT .

Explain HOW telling everyone THEY MUST BELEIVE ON JESUS or perish IS PRIDE buddy .
ITS you all in pride , NOT ME

Confucius' philosophy was never a religion; it is a core concepts . He is also the only sage recognized by people throughout China's thousands of years of history.

If you think you are better than him, or you believe that reading the Bible makes you superior to him,

I'm sorry, but I don't share that opinion

If you know The Art of War—the book about the art of war, which is also studied at the United States Military Academy at West Point—do you know what it teaches people first? It teaches to avoid war, as war is a foolish act.

If you think learning these things is completely useless compared to the Bible, then there's another figure to consider: China's first emperor, who once tried to burn all these books. Was he... truly great?

 

[amigo de christo]

I had to look up the word, " Ecumincalism"

Its probably best to just use the scripture once or twice and then move on, they are best for correction.

I need to take my own advice about the twice thing

Just keep pointing TO JESUS . There is no other hope or name whereby one may be saved .
As for me , march on i must .
For verily verily or truly truly i say unto thee
Ecumiicalism is very wide and far spread now
And its not for THEE OR ME , OR ANY other sheep . SHEEP dont bite on lies .
WE feast on truth . TO the trenches truly
for what i say to you and say to all
TRULY TRULY has this delusion grown great
and at its end the lake of fire is its fate .
WE DONT desire that for folks
SO WE POINT TO JESUS and not to twisted men and thier ecumincal whores cup .

 

[amigo de christo]

I had to look up the word, " Ecumincalism"

Its probably best to just use the scripture once or twice and then move on, they are best for correction.

I need to take my own advice about the twice thing

i just had a real lovely t hought come to me my friend .
YOU are already DOING what needs to be done . KEEP IT UP .
KEEP pointing to CHRIST JESUS and expose anything contrary to HIM .
You already are doing what must be done . Just KEEP IT UP and let us never conform .
FAITHFUL TO THE END my friend , FAITHFUL TO CHRIST JESUS to the very END .
TO THE LORD BE ALL GLORY , TO THE LORD be all praise and thanksgiving .
POINT to CHRIST to the last breath my friend . IT makes ME REAL HAPPY when i see
others DOING THIS . makes my soul fat and happy to see you walking in the TRUTH .
NOW to the trenches for THE HOUR IS LATE .

 

[lforrest]

that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,

shall judge him in the last day

If this is not a translation error, then it conveys one meaning: the destruction of this world.

And God will judge all mankind at the very end of this world's perish.

Therefore, my view is that people tend to interpret this "perish" as the destruction of one's life.

Is the issue that everyone is observed as dying, so you take issue with the current promise that they shall not perish? So you have interpreted this as needing a future fulfillment to avoid a conflict with observations?

It isn't so difficult to reconcile this statement from Jesus with reality, if we consider the invisible spiritual world. When someone believes in Jesus they are made to be spiritually alive. And this spiritual life after rebirth shall not end. Not to say we will not change, because we will.

I believe that there are three resurrections we must go through. The resurrection of the Spirit, at the time of belief. A less formal resurrection of the soul through healing and sanctification. And the resurrection of the body at the end of the world.

1 Thessalonians 5:23
May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[ScottA]

You insinuated it so this makes your denial a prevarication.

Apparently you still don't know how this works--how God works. It is not for me to make myself public, but rather it is God--whom has done so. All that we who are called to do, is what we are called to do--not to puff up what is purposely under a spiritual vail, only to be revealed by the Spirit--when and to whom He chooses. For this reason the spiritually blind throughout history have abused and killed the prophets sent to them. Meanwhile, what you are highlighting, is your own inability to see all that is written.

 

[soberxp]

If you do not cut off the end of the first verse it says in contrast

should not perish,
but have everlasting life.

ever lasting life.

Return to the life that should as ever lasting.

The sins of all people in the world—past, present, and future—will eventually be turned into a curse through their actions. This curse will be upon the earth, making the planet's life systems unsustainable (a fact that has already been scientifically discovered).

This is why God said to Adam,Gen 3:17 cursed is the ground for thy sake;

I'm just saying what I saw in the Bible.

 

[ScottA]

Once again you dodge the question with some pseudo-spiritual mumbo jumbo. What Jesus told Peter about the Christ has nothing to do with you.
Do you acknowledge that Jesus is God manifested in the flesh?

I gave you biblical precedence--which has everything to do with the church, me, and your problem of not knowing the scriptures well enough and not having the spiritual insight to know better.

 

[soberxp]

Is the issue that everyone is observed as dying, so you take issue with the current promise that they shall not perish? So you have interpreted this as needing a future fulfillment to avoid a conflict with observations?

What I mean by "perish" in that statement is this: the all sins of all humanity have led to the perish of the world. Yet believers may also experience the outcome of this perish of the world—however, those who believe in Jesus will receive eternal life and live.

It isn't so difficult to reconcile this statement from Jesus with reality, if we consider the invisible spiritual world. When someone believes in Jesus they are made to be spiritually alive. And this spiritual life after rebirth shall not end. Not to say we will not change, because we will.

I believe that there are three resurrections we must go through. The resurrection of the Spirit, at the time of belief. A less formal resurrection of the soul through healing and sanctification. And the resurrection of the body at the end of the world.

1 Thessalonians 5:23
May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

This is your personal understanding, which I respect and support.

1 Corinthians 7:7
For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.