Rapture ... soon?
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You need to read more carefully! I have NEVER said spirits do not exist! You have the right to disagree with what I have said, but you don't have the right to say I've said something I have not!
I will allow him to answer for himself. He will be far better able to define his beliefs than I would be. The problem is that you as well as others here already have your minds made up, and you seem reluctant to receive how the things, works and ways of evil spirits vs. angels are to be spiritually discerned.
Dave Watchman
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I think it's interesting if you backspace the "X', and type "twitter" in it's place, the X posts will self imbed:
I find it even more interesting, that old Spock salute, is an ancient Jewish blessing.
Yes, the Vulcan salute is an authentic imitation of the manner by which Cohanim spread their hands in most congregations when blessing the congregation to this day.
Cohanim are those people that today comprise about four to five percent of the Jewish population,1 all of whom trace their paternal lineage back to Aaron, brother of Moses, who was also the first High Priest.
But why do they spread their fingers? The Midrash explains that the Shechinah—the divine presence, peers through the fingers of the Cohanim during the priestly blessing, in keeping with the verse, “…behold, He is standing behind our wall, looking from the windows, peering between the cracks.”3
In Hebrew, those last words are מציץ מן החרכים– meitzit min ha-charakim. That last word,ha-charakim, can also be read as “five cracks in the wall.” That provides us the clue to the common form by which the Cohanim hold out their hands—it’s in order to have a total of five separations between the fingers: One space below and between the thumbs, another two spaces between the thumb and second finger of each hand, and another two between the third and fourth finger of each hand.4
I dont use twitter or x. Like back in the 1960s you didnt have to worry about the whole of mass media except on the tv and what heard by ear.
I don't worry about this world, and think its bad, like most people do.
There so many people that just look at the world and see trouble.
They just want this world to either come to an end or Jesus to come back and clear everything so you can have it easier
Well jesus didnt have it easy, he died, and then was raised again but he didnt have much freedom like us.
I don't worry about this world, and think its bad, like most people do.
There so many people that just look at the world and see trouble.
They just want this world to either come to an end or Jesus to come back and clear everything so you can have it easier
Well jesus didnt have it easy, he died, and then was raised again but he didnt have much freedom like us.
David in NJ
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Ronald D Milam
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That is not what 2 Thess. 2 says, that is just your interpretation. The passage clearly is about the DEPARTURE of the Church from a standing on this earth, not from the Faith. You do not even get what comes first means here. Its not that the AC must come first before the Rapture, its that BOTH the Departure & The Man of Sin has to show up BEFORE the Wrath of God can fall. That is the subject, the Thessalonians were in fear that they were in the DOTL, and Paul tells them to not fear being in Gods Wrath (which starts on day 1260) because before that Wrath to come can come, both the Rapture (Gathering together unto Christ in vs. 1) and the Man of Sin MUST SHOW UP BEFORE God's Wrath can fall.
This is so simple I have to believe by now people understand this and just want to cling to an untruth because its been around so long and people have bought it for so long they are bashful about admitting how erroneous they were.
The Man of Sin and Israel make this Agreement that starts the 70th week and the Rapture all at the same time. Israel simply joins the E.U. that is the Agreement/Covenant they enter into. From that point forward you will see like One Billion Christians die, like a plague, except its just the Raptured Souls being taken to heaven. No one just disappears.
Ronald D Milam
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Look for Israel to join the E.U. the Rapture will happen soon after and the 70th week will start. THAT is the Daniel 9:27 Agreement.
Spiritual Israelite
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LOL. Have you ever seen a baby tell a lie? I'm sure you have not. So, you are once again proving how you just can't be taken seriously. You just say things that make no sense whatsoever.
Good grief. Do you have no discernment at all? Babies are not capable of telling lies. Think! What that is saying is what other scripture says which is that people are born with a sinful nature, but people don't actually sin until they know what sin is. As Paul taught, he did not become dead in sins until he knew what sin was by way of the law.
Romans 7:9 I was alive once without the law, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died. 10 And the commandment, which was to bring life, I found to bring death. 11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it killed me.
You need to learn how to interpret scripture in context. It's funny how you take that passage from Psalm 58:3-4 so literally when you normally try to symbolize everything you can. Please ask God for wisdom so that you can start understanding scripture in the right context.
So, if what you were saying here was true then you are saying that Cain is the devil. Can you not make up your mind who the devil is? Before, you said the devil is the spirit of disobedience in man. Now, you're saying that the devil is Cain because you are associating the devil with the one who every unbeliever has as their father. Whenever you make a final decision about who or what you actually think the devil, Satan, is, then let me know. For now, it looks like you think the devil is Cain. Which is, of course, wrong.
rebuilder 454
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You just posted a gathering in heaven after the trib by angels .
Yes ,after the trib, the saints are gathered in heaven, to return to earth with Jesus as the bible teaches.
I agree with you.
The rapture ,is not the second coming after the trib, and it is pretrib as you indicated in your verses.
Jesus confirmed it a few verses later.
"Before the flood, one taken, one left."
It is imperative for truth to not omit verses.
Spiritual Israelite
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Spiritual Israelite
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What in the world are you talking about? I only knew the answers because I asked those questions before and you answered them or I saw things you said that would indicate how you would answer them. Hello? I was not playing any games.Wait. Do you agree that we did not receive the whole armor of God until we are born again of the spirit, first? Not before. Yes or no?
As for your questions above, SI answered correctly. I knew that he was playing games of ignorance with questions when he already know my position.
rebuilder 454
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The virgins were prompted to go meet Jesus.
Then, while sleeping, were awakened for the rapture.
That would be Matt 25.
rebuilder 454
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There are tons of parallels in the fall feasts that point to that season as the rapture.
Trumpets....Gathering
Atonement.....the priest (us) enters the HOH.
Tabernacles..... temporary structures away from home where the chosen dwell for a season.
How can some spit on it, mock it, and cast it aside as if it were garbage?
Ronald D Milam
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As a preacher of 40 plus years I do not suffer clownish types very well. I will just put you on ignore.
I was with you until you say "satan is a fallen angel/spirit.
No I do NOT deny Satan is spirit, not a spirit, but spirit.
The only personhood that Satan can and does achieve is when he takes up residence within the hearts and minds of humans.
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