Jesus is the Son of his God

[Matthias]

No,it isn't.

I think you're overstepping your bounds there.
It is absolutely true. You do not know that. And it is wrong to state you are so entitled to judge such a thing.

It’s called discernment.

I’m willing to say that @ScottA agrees with you that “Jesus was not a Jew”. For that to happen, all he has to do is speak up and say that he too believes “Jesus was not a Jew.”

 

[ProverbsInPink]

No. Their deity is Dagon.

That was one of the deities in their pantheon
Polytheism is the worship of or belief in multiple deities.

There was Dagon, Ashtoreth and Baal-Zebub.

 

[Matthias]

That was one of the deities in their pantheon
Polytheism is the worship of or belief in multiple deities.

There was Dagon, Ashtoreth and Baal-Zebub.

Dagon was above the others. Dagon was their supreme deity.

 

[ProverbsInPink]

It’s called discernment.

I’m willing to say that @ScottA agrees with you that “Jesus was not a Jew”. For that to happen, all he has to do is speak up and say that he too believes “Jesus was not a Jew.”

He does not have to say a word.

You are making Emmanuel out to be a man. Jesus was God. Born into a Jewish family,living among the Jews.

You should speak with Jews and ask how Judaism is passed down.

God is not a Jew.

 

[Matthias]

He does not have to say a word.

He does if he wants me or anyone else (besides you?) to believe that he believes “Jesus was not a Jew.”

You are making Emmanuel out to be a man. Jesus was God. Born into a Jewish family,living among the Jews.

You should speak with Jews and ask how Judaism is passed down.

God is not a Jew.

 

[ProverbsInPink]

He does if he wants me or anyone else to believe that he believes “Jesus was not a Jew.”

Oh my. Now you presume to speak for other than yourself.

Is God a Jew?

 

[Matthias]

God is not a Jew.

The Son of God, Jesus of Nazareth, is a Jew. His God and Father is not a Jew.

 

[Matthias]

Oh my. Now you presume to speak for other than yourself.

I’ve given him ample opportunity to say in this thread whether or not he believes Jesus was a Jew. I’ve discussed it with him before. It would be for your benefit if he does in this thread, not mine.

 

[JustMe]

It's not difficult to hear at all.

God ordains understanding. You don't understand Jesus was God on Earth. It is true and in His word. No ambiguity at all.

Your initial reply to my remarks seems to contradict what I stated. Therefore, I will assume that you never intended to imply that the Son of God can also be God, who is and can only be his Father, according to scripture. Consequently, do you believe that Jesus, the Christ, cannot be God the Son—neither during his time on earth nor at any other time or place in the mind of God or where he is present today with God, his Father?

 

[Muna]

Oh my. Now you presume to speak for other than yourself.

Is God a Jew?

Jesus seems to refer to himself as Jew here, no?

John 4:9 Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.

Then Jesus tells her here

John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews

 

[ProverbsInPink]

Jesus seems to refer to himself as Jew here, no?

John 4:9 Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.

Then Jesus tells her here

John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews

Please read verse 9 again.
The woman of Samaria asked that of Jesus.
In that time Samarians did not mix with Jews.
Verse 22 was his addressing her in the context of her earlier observation of him being a Jew.
Salvation is of the Jews. The words of the prophecy became flesh and dwelt among us as Savior. Because the words of God prophesied a Messiah.

 

[Muna]

Please read verse 9 again.
The woman of Samaria asked that of Jesus.
In that time Samarians did not mix with Jews.
Verse 22 was his addressing her in the context of her earlier observation of him being a Jew.
Salvation is of the Jews. The words of the prophecy became flesh and dwelt among us as Savior. Because the words of God prophesied a Messiah.

I was just providing the starting context that it was Jesus (who is the Word made flesh) who was speaking to her there.

She understood him to be a Jew.

The Messiah was to spring out of Judah

Micah 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. (Matt 2:4-6. Heb 7:14, Rev 5:5)

John 4:25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.

John 4:26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.

He is our salvation, who sprang out of Judah

John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

Out of the same the ends of the earth would see the salvation of God

Jesus being made perfect, became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him

The same were set for a light and for salvation to the ends of the earth.

Acts 13:47 For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.

He is the Word made flesh, and made like them (of the tribe of Judah)

 

[ProverbsInPink]

I was just providing the starting context that it was Jesus (who is the Word made flesh) who was speaking to her there.

She understood him to be a Jew.

The Messiah was to spring out of Judah

Micah 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. (Matt 2:4-6. Heb 7:14, Rev 5:5)

John 4:25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.

John 4:26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.

He is our salvation, who sprang out of Judah

John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

Out of the same the ends of the earth would see the salvation of God

Jesus being made perfect, became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him

The same were set for a light and for salvation to the ends of the earth.

Acts 13:47 For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.

He is the Word made flesh, and made like them (of the tribe of Judah)

Jesus is the Word made flesh. He was born into a Jewish family. Whole every particle of his being is Divine.
God fulfilled the prophecy to His chosen people.God is not a man.

 

[Matthias]

Jesus is the Word made flesh. He was born into a Jewish family. Whole every particle of his being is Divine.
God fulfilled the prophecy to His chosen people.God is not a man.

This won’t cause you to change your mind but Jesus of Nazareth, the Messiah, Son of the living God, is a man (1 Timothy 2:5).

 

[Muna]

Jesus is the Word made flesh. He was born into a Jewish family.

That is perfect

Whole every particle of his being is Divine.
God fulfilled the prophecy to His chosen people.God is not a man.

Paul calls Jesus a man also

1 Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus

The Father was with Jesus also.

 

[ProverbsInPink]

This won’t cause you to change your mind but Jesus of Nazareth, the Messiah, Son of the living God, is a man (1 Timothy 2:5).

And he was a born sinner too.

 

[Muna]

This won’t cause you to change your mind but Jesus of Nazareth, the Messiah, Son of the living God, is a man (1 Timothy 2:5).

You beat me to it

1 Cr 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him;
and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

God made Jesus Lord and Christ

Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus,
whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

The blessed testimony is given of us of the Father concerning Jesus, is that he is the Christ, the Son of the living God

 

[Muna]

And he was a born sinner too.

I certainly dont believe that

 

[ProverbsInPink]

That is perfect


Paul calls Jesus a man also

1 Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus

The Father was with Jesus also.

Colossians 2:9: “For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form”

 

[Matthias]

And he was a born sinner too.

No, he wasn’t.