Jesus is the Son of his God

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Matthias

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i am truly sorry for you Matthias …

You’re sorry over a construction you made in your mind.

… you have chosen the path of the accuser of the Brethren

No. One would have to be a brother to do that. We aren’t brothers in the faith.

I’m a Jewish monotheist, but I’ll tell you this. I wouldn’t have agreed with your teaching when I was a trinitarian.
 
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I tried to follow and I somehow missed the disagreement, can someone sum it up for me?
 

David in NJ

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No. One would have to be a brother to do that. We aren’t brothers in the faith.
You are CORRECT for you accuse me whom the FATHER has placed in MESSIAH

There is One Faith = the Word that was God in the Beginning

The Word that was God saved me when the Word became flesh and went to the Cross to bear my sins.
Thru His Precious Blood i am Forgiven and with His Holy Spirit i am given the Truth = "Thy Word is Truth"

5Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. 8And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. 9Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, 10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, 11and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
 

Matthias

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You are CORRECT …

I am.


… for you accuse me whom the FATHER ahs placed in MESSIAH

There is One Faith = the Word that was God in the Beginning

I listened to a preacher yesterday who spoke about false confidence. You‘re confident that we are spiritual brothers. That’s a false confidence. You lack spiritual discernment.
 

David in NJ

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I am.




I listened to a preacher yesterday who spoke about false confidence. You‘re confident that we are spiritual brothers. That’s a false confidence. You lack discernment.
Your own words have judged you.

My confidence comes from the LORD JESUS CHRIST

In that hour Jesus rejoiced in the Spirit and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and revealed them to babes. Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. 22All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows who the Son is except the Father, and who the Father is except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.

23Then He turned to His disciples and said privately, “Blessed are the eyes which see the things you see; 24for I tell you that many prophets and kings have desired to see what you see, and have not seen it, and to hear what you hear, and have not heard it.
 

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Your own words have judged you

Yes. So have yours judged you.

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If anyone is reading this and thinking that I’m spiritually his brother, please disabuse yourself of that thinking. I have never been his spiritual brother. He is not of my faith, nor I of his.

He’s deceived himself. Don’t allow him to deceive you.
 

David in NJ

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Yes. So have yours judged you.
YES they have!!!

There is One Faith = the Word that was God in the Beginning

The Word that was God saved me when the Word became flesh and went to the Cross to bear my sins.
Thru His Precious Blood i am Forgiven and with His Holy Spirit i am given the Truth = "Thy Word is Truth"

HalleluYAH
 

Matthias

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YES they have!!!

There is One Faith = the Word that was God in the Beginning

The Word that was God saved me when the Word became flesh and went to the Cross to bear my sins.
Thru His Precious Blood i am Forgiven and with His Holy Spirit i am given the Truth = "Thy Word is Truth"

HalleluYAH

Have you been following the Brother Joshua cult? That false prophet says the same thing that you just said.
 

Matthias

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I missed "one godS", did he mean "one God's" because he can be pretty sloppy/lazy in his workmanship.

I think he means what he says. He said “one gods,” and he has repeated it on numerous occasions. He asserted that if trinitarians don’t believe it then they haven’t yet fully believed Jesus.

He has no understanding of basic Hebrew grammar.
 
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I think he means what he says. He said “one gods,” and he has repeated it on numerous occasions. He asserted that if trinitarians don’t believe it then they haven’t yet fully believed Jesus.

Can't tell ya, I don't know people change the wording in the scripture, I can't agree with it if that is the case.
 

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Can't tell ya, I don't know people change the wording in the scripture, I can't agree with it if that is the case.

No one should agree with it. I’ve asked him who does and he couldn’t identify anyone. He’s a loose cannon.
 

David in NJ

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I missed "one godS", did he mean "one God's" because he can be pretty sloppy/lazy in his workmanship.
Genesis declares that God is PLURAL thus the Hebrew word used for God is ELohim

We SEE this in Genesis 1:26 = Elohim(plural) said Let US make man in OUR image according to OUR likeness.

Strong's Lexicon
In the beginning
בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית (bə·rê·šîṯ)

Preposition-b | Noun - feminine singular
Strong's Hebrew 7225: 1) first, beginning, best, chief 1a) beginning 1b) first 1c) chief 1d) choice part

God
אֱלֹהִ֑ים (’ĕ·lō·hîm)
Noun - masculine plural

Strong's Hebrew 430: 1) (plural) 1a) rulers, judges 1b) divine ones 1c) angels 1d) gods 2) (plural intensive-singular meaning) 2a) god, goddess 2b) godlike one 2c) works or special possessions of God 2d) the (true) God 2e) God
 

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you are being reported for slander

You wrote what you wrote. I haven’t slandered you.

I don’t want anyone to think that we are spiritual brothers. If anyone has been slandered, it’s me. By you. I’m not reporting you for slander.
 
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Genesis declares that God is PLURAL thus the Hebrew word used for God is ELohim

We SEE this in Genesis 1:26 = Elohim(plural) said Let US make man in OUR image according to OUR likeness.

Strong's Lexicon
In the beginning
בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית (bə·rê·šîṯ)

Preposition-b | Noun - feminine singular
Strong's Hebrew 7225: 1) first, beginning, best, chief 1a) beginning 1b) first 1c) chief 1d) choice part

God
אֱלֹהִ֑ים (’ĕ·lō·hîm)
Noun - masculine plural

Strong's Hebrew 430: 1) (plural) 1a) rulers, judges 1b) divine ones 1c) angels 1d) gods 2) (plural intensive-singular meaning) 2a) god, goddess 2b) godlike one 2c) works or special possessions of God 2d) the (true) God 2e) God

They used gods (plural) in Daniel

Daniel 4:8 But at the last Daniel came in before me, whose name was Belteshazzar, according to the name of my god, and in whom is the spirit of the holy gods: and before him I told the dream, saying,

Psalm 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.