Jesus is the Son of his God

[Muna]

Then why did you ask where it was?

Because you told me to look, and I asked two times before where

Saying God with an “s” on the end gives the word game away. Gods is plural. More than one God. Polytheism.

I dont know my isms

The Father and the Son are both individually identified as elohim. There are two elohim in the verse, not one.

Whatever

 

[Matthias]

Because you told me to look, and I asked two times before where

You asked where the trouble started. You asked where to look, two times, and you were told where to look. What is the point of asking and being told if you aren’t going to read it?

I dont know my isms


Whatever

You just saw two distinct and separate elohim in the passage and your response is “whatever”?

Elohim and elohim = two elohim.

Have you already forgotten his teaching that elohim is always plural?

Elohim obviously isn’t always plural.

Whatever? When I hear that, I hear “not serious”; prattling.

 

[Muna]

You asked where the trouble started. You asked where to look, two times, and you were told where to look. What is the point of asking and being told if you aren’t going to read it?



You just saw two distinct and separate elohim in the passage and your response is “whatever”?

Elohim and elohim = two elohim.

Have you already forgotten his teaching that elohim is always plural?

Elohim obviously isn’t always plural.

Whatever? When I hear that, I hear “not serious”; prattling.

I am not a teacher, you call yourself one right?

Then do you job.

 

[Matthias]

I am not a teacher, you call yourself one right?

Then do you job.

I just did.

 

[Muna]

I just did.

Not when first called upon, you were not good at being given the floor on a thing when I asked you to take it, you wanted to slow walk over 4 verses. But here, @David in NJ has done a terrible thing (he put an S on the end of the word god somewhere, not sure if it was what was in the definitions he kept posting) wont provide a post for me, and you are holding me accountable for it and trying to force feed me about your isms.

I havent a clue on isms Matthias, you could be speaking chinese to me.

 

[HealthyShape]

I havent a clue on isms

Legoisms...?

 

[Muna]

Legoisms...?

Okay, I know one

 

[Matthias]

Not when first called upon, you were not good at being given the floor on a thing when I asked you to take it, you wanted to slow walk over 4 verses. But here, @David in NJ has done a terrible thing (he put an S on the end of the word god somewhere, not sure if it was what was in the definitions he kept posting) wont provide a post for me, and you are holding me accountable for it and trying to force feed me about your isms.

I havent a clue on isms Matthias, you could be speaking chinese to me.

You were given the exact post number by another member where he introduced the phrase “one gods”.

Mono -> one

Poly -> more than one

Monotheism -> one God

Polytheism - more than one god

 

[Muna]

You were given the exact post number by another member where he introduced the phrase “one gods”.

Mono -> one

Poly -> more than one

Monotheism -> one God

Polytheism - more than one god

When I care I will ask, I am not into that fabricated stuff.

I just say one for one

 

[Matthias]

Elohim obviously isn’t always plural.

It bears repeating -> elohim is a Hebrew word which is always, without exception, plural in form but almost never plural in meaning.

“Jesus of Nazareth is the Messiah, Son of the living God.” - Peter’s confession (Matthew 16:16).

Jesus of Nazareth is the Messiah, Son of the living elohim.

In the confession, I substituted the Hebrew word elohim, which is only and aways plural in form. Jesus isn’t the Son of the living gods.

Jesus of Nazareth is the Messiah, Son of the living theos.

In the confession, I substituted the Greek word theos, which is singular.

Jesus is the Son of the living God elohim / theos.

In Peter’s confession, there is no plurality in the word ”God”. It isn’t plural in English. It isn’t plural in Greek. It isn’t plural in Hebrew. It is singular in all three languages.

P.S.

Jesus of Nazareth is the Son of the Father. It is the Father who is the living God.

 

[Matthias]

“The LORD (Father) says to my Lord (the Messiah, His Son), …”

(Psalm 110:1, AMP)

Yahweh is speaking prophetically to someone who isn’t Yahweh. @David in NJ knows this is true. That is why he doesn’t, and can’t, see that it is the Father speaking here to Jesus, the Messiah, his Son. That’s why he doesn’t, and can’t, say that the AMP is correct. That is why he says, and must say, the AMP is false.

The Hebrew word adoni occurs 195 times in the Hebrew Bible. It is always a non-deity title. David knows this is true. That is why he doesn’t, and can’t, see that it is the Father speaking here to Jesus, the Messiah, his Son.

If AMP is correct, and it is, then Jesus isn’t Yahweh. That is why David doesn’t, and can’t, see that the Father is speaking prophetically to the Son in this verse. That is why he has to make Jesus the speaker, not the one who is being spoken to, in the verse.

 

[David in NJ]

Not when first called upon, you were not good at being given the floor on a thing when I asked you to take it, you wanted to slow walk over 4 verses. But here, @David in NJ has done a terrible thing (he put an S on the end of the word god somewhere, not sure if it was what was in the definitions he kept posting) wont provide a post for me, and you are holding me accountable for it and trying to force feed me about your isms.

I havent a clue on isms Matthias, you could be speaking chinese to me.

Don't play the slander card with Matthias and sin

@David in NJ has done a terrible thing (he put an S on the end of the word god somewhere, not sure if it was what was in the definitions he kept posting) wont provide a post for me,

i did not place the 's' on god = God did it Himself = Elohim = STRAIGHT from the BEGINNING

In the beginning
בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית (bə·rê·šîṯ)
Preposition-b | Noun - feminine singular
Strong's Hebrew 7225: 1) first, beginning, best, chief 1a) beginning 1b) first 1c) chief 1d) choice part

God
אֱלֹהִ֑ים (’ĕ·lō·hîm)
Noun - masculine plural
Strong's Hebrew 430: 1) (plural) 1a) rulers, judges 1b) divine ones 1c) angels 1d) gods 2) (plural intensive-singular meaning) 2a) god, goddess 2b) godlike one 2c) works or special possessions of God 2d) the (true) God 2e) God

 

[Muna]

Done with this thread, not interested anymore

 

[David in NJ]

This is a common error which led numerous Christians to come to absurd or heretical conclusions. Context (textual, cultural, linguistic...) and the basic principles of faith (for example "the NT explains the OT") interpret Scriptures.

One can put one verse next to another and create a "Lego" construct which was not meant to be in that way.

Mish mashing scripture together is how all false doctrines are formed.

God in FACT does have His Word as a Lego building set for His sons = Scripture interprets scripture.

The fact that the Jews rejected this TRUTH caused them to reject the Scripture which WALKED this earth.

 

[Matthias]

Don't play the slander card with Matthias and sin


i did not place the 's' on god = God did it Himself = Elohim = STRAIGHT from the BEGINNING

In the beginning
בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית (bə·rê·šîṯ)
Preposition-b | Noun - feminine singular
Strong's Hebrew 7225: 1) first, beginning, best, chief 1a) beginning 1b) first 1c) chief 1d) choice part

God
אֱלֹהִ֑ים (’ĕ·lō·hîm)
Noun - masculine plural
Strong's Hebrew 430: 1) (plural) 1a) rulers, judges 1b) divine ones 1c) angels 1d) gods 2) (plural intensive-singular meaning) 2a) god, goddess 2b) godlike one 2c) works or special possessions of God 2d) the (true) God 2e) God

She clearly doesn’t understand what you’re saying. She hasn’t done the reading that is necessary to understand you and she isn’t going to. It was never her intention to slander you. Are you going to report her or show her mercy and grace?

 

[David in NJ]

This is a common error which led numerous Christians to come to absurd or heretical conclusions. Context (textual, cultural, linguistic...) and the basic principles of faith (for example "the NT explains the OT") interpret Scriptures.

One can put one verse next to another and create a "Lego" construct which was not meant to be in that way.

Are you willfully ignorant of the Gospel of John 1:1 , whereby the Apostle applied His Heavenly FATHER's Lego Kit to bring forth the most glorious TRUTH of God???

 

[HealthyShape]

Mish mashing scripture together is how all false doctrines are formed.

God in FACT does have His Word as a Lego building set for His sons = Scripture interprets scripture.

The fact that the Jews rejected this TRUTH caused them to reject the Scripture which WALKED this earth.

I have no idea what you tried to say, but it sounded quite strange. Scripture walked this earth?

 

[David in NJ]

She clearly doesn’t understand what you’re saying. She hasn’t done the reading that is necessary to understand you and she isn’t going to. It was never her intention to slander you. Are you going to report her or show her mercy and grace?

Truly has shown her 'true' colors and that is enough for me

 

[HealthyShape]

Are you willfully ignorant of the Gospel of John 1:1 , whereby the Apostle applied His Heavenly FATHER's Lego Kit to bring forth the most glorious TRUTH of God???

Again, you are making no sense. Speak in a way that is coherent and understandable.

 

[David in NJ]

I have no idea what you tried to say, but it sounded quite strange. Scripture walked this earth?

"sounds strange" ???

You never read this?

"Then the man and his wife heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the breeze of the day, and they hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden."