Jesus is the Son of his God

[David in NJ]

I’ve never sought your approval. The theologians I’ve quoted are trinitarians, not Jewish monotheists. I trust their arguments against you because they are sound and strong.



They aren’t going after you. With your reasoning, that should tell you something.



Only if and as long as I abide by the Board rules and policies.

They are going after me, they are chomping at the bit to do so.

"All those who live Godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution" - 2 Tim 3:12

In the USA, the persecutions unto imprisonment and death, for now, are restrained, but that will soon change.

But make no mistake = many 'christian' churches, in obedience to the world, have been persecuting Holy Spirit filled believers in different ways here in the USA.

 

[Matthias]

They are going after me, they are chomping at the bit to do so.

If they were, you wouldn’t still be here.

"All those who live Godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution" - 2 Tim 3:12

You aren’t being persecuted by the moderators.

In the USA, the persecutions unto imprisonment and death, for now, are restrained, but that will soon change.

But make no mistake = many 'christian' churches, in obedience to the world, have been persecuting Holy Spirit filled believers in different ways here in the USA.

 

[David in NJ]

If they were, you wouldn’t still be here.



You aren’t being persecuted by the moderators.

slander is a persecution

persecution has many levels and begins with non-physical attacks such as slander, backbiting and 'labeling' in a negative fashion,
as well as promoting a double standard which divides rather then building

 

[Matthias]

slander is a persecution

persecution has many levels and begins with non-physical attacks such as slander, backbiting and 'labeling' in a negative fashion,
as well as promoting a double standard which divides rather then building

I think you probably need to take some time off. No one here is out to get you.

I’ve already explained why I’m not persuaded by your arguments. There’s nothing you can do to change that.

My recommendation for you would be to go to the “Christians Only” forums and discuss your ideas with trinitarians there, but do whatever you think best.

 

[David in NJ]

I think you probably need to take some time off. No one here is out to get you.

I’ve already explained why I’m not persuaded by your arguments. There’s nothing you can do to change that.

My recommendation for you would be to go to the “Christians Only” forums and discuss your ideas with trinitarians there, but do whatever you think best.

I’ve already explained why I’m not persuaded by your arguments.

You keep repeating this so you obviously are so effected by the TRUTH that you must make excuses

No one here is out to get you.

No, they're here to backbite and slander just as they have been doing, yourself included.

My recommendation for you

Read and pray thru the Gospel and Acts and have faith in the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE and then you will be able to SEE

"Not by might, nor by power but by My Spirit says the LORD"

All these things Jesus spoke to the multitude in parables; and without a parable He did not speak to them,
that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying:

“I will open My mouth in parables;
I will utter things kept secret from the foundation of the world.”

The secrets of God are in Christ and the only "Scholar" is the Holy Spirit = HE Knows the Way

 

[Matthias]

You keep repeating this so you obviously are so effected by the TRUTH that you must make excuses


No, they're here to backbite and slander just as they have been doing, yourself included.


Read and pray thru the Gospel and Acts and have faith in the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE and then you will be able to SEE

"Not by might, nor by power but by My Spirit says the LORD"

All these things Jesus spoke to the multitude in parables; and without a parable He did not speak to them,
that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying:

“I will open My mouth in parables;
I will utter things kept secret from the foundation of the world.”

The secrets of God are in Christ and the only "Scholar" is the Holy Spirit = HE Knows the Way

If you can’t cut it with the trinitarians, you aren’t going to cut it with non-trinitarians.

You have a large field -> the trinitarians. Work it.

 

[David in NJ]

If you can’t cut it with the trinitarians, you aren’t going to cut it with non-trinitarians.

You have a large field -> the trinitarians. Work it.

Print this out and put it up on the wall = read it everyday and pray

The secrets of God are in Christ and the only "Scholar" is the Holy Spirit = HE Knows the Way, FATHER show me Your Way

 

[Matthias]

Print this out and put it up on the wall = read it everyday and pray

You’re well intentioned but misguided.

 

[Matthias]

No, they're here to backbite and slander just as they have been doing, yourself included.

The trinitarians, the moderators, and me. You’re delusional.

 

[David in NJ]

The trinitarians, the moderators, and me. You’re delusional.

But when His own people heard about this, they went out to lay hold of Him, for they said, “He is out of His mind.”
And the scribes who came down from Jerusalem said, “He has Beelzebub,” and, “By the ruler of the demons He casts out demons.”

You're not the first to call Christ and His Sheep as "crazy"

 

[Matthias]

But when His own people heard about this, they went out to lay hold of Him, for they said, “He is out of His mind.”
And the scribes who came down from Jerusalem said, “He has Beelzebub,” and, “By the ruler of the demons He casts out demons.”

You're not the first to call Christ and His Sheep as "crazy"

I haven’t ever called Christ and his sheep as “crazy”.

Why were you calling me your brother in Christ? I told you a long time ago that it wasn’t true.

 

[David in NJ]

I haven’t ever called Christ and his sheep as crazy.

Why were you calling me your brother in Christ?

“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.”

If they called Christ crazy they will surely call those who believe His every word = meshuganah

 

[Matthias]

“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.”

If they called Christ crazy they will surely call those who believe His every word = meshuganah

That doesn’t explain why you denied the reality for years.

 

[David in NJ]

That doesn’t explain why you denied the reality for years.

JESUS guarantee = "these words I speak will judge the world"

religion and the world say: "meshuganah"

 

[Matthias]

JESUS guarantee = "these words I speak will judge the world"

religion and the world say: "meshuganah"

You avoided the question.

I told you years ago that we are not brothers in Christ. You told me very recently that we are. The reality is that we are not.

You’ve told me many times that you believe I am saved, yet you tell me that I’m an enemy of Christ.

 

[David in NJ]

You avoided the question.

I told you years ago that we are not brothers in Christ. You told me very recently that we are. The reality is that we are not.

You’ve told me many times that you believe I am saved, yet you tell me that I’m an enemy of Christ.

the Apostle John was given great insight
1 John 4:20
Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar.
For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.

Causes of spiritual infirmity:

a.) " respect of persons" which causes spiritual blindness = James 2:1-13
b.) lack of faith in the Word/unbelief = Hebrews 11:6
c.) jealousy, envy = Acts 7:9
d.) pride = very destructive = "the Stone which the builders rejected has become the Chief Cornerstone" = Matt 21:33-44
e.) religion = Acts 9:21 and Acts 20:25-31
f.) failure to comply to the KING's commandments = Matt 18:1-5

 

[Matthias]

the Apostle John was given great insight
1 John 4:20
Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar.
For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.

Causes of spiritual infirmity:

a.) " respect of persons" which causes spiritual blindness = James 2:1-13
b.) lack of faith in the Word/unbelief = Hebrews 11:6
c.) jealousy, envy = Acts 7:9
d.) pride = very destructive = "the Stone which the builders rejected has become the Chief Cornerstone" = Matt 21:33-44
e.) religion = Acts 9:21 and Acts 20:25-31
f.) failure to comply to the KING's commandments = Matt 18:1-5

Do you still even now insist that I’m your brother in Christ? Do you still believe that I am saved?

 

[David in NJ]

Do you still even now insist that I’m your brother in Christ? Do you still believe that I am saved?

you would have to be 'meshuganah' to reject Salvation that is "to the Jew first and also to the Gentile"

And there was a man in Jerusalem whose name was Simeon; and this man was righteous and devout, looking forward to the consolation of Israel; and the Holy Spirit was upon him. 26And it had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not see death before he had seen the Lord’s Christ. 27And he came by the Spirit into the temple; and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to carry out for Him the custom of the Law, 28then he took Him in his arms, and blessed God, and said,

29“Now, Lord, You are letting Your bond-servant depart in peace,

According to Your word;

30For my eyes have seen Your Salvation,

31Which You have prepared in the presence of all the peoples:

32A light for revelation for the Gentiles,
And the glory of Your people Israel.”

SHALOM

 

[Matthias]

you would have to be 'meshuganah' to reject Salvation that is "to the Jew first and also to the Gentile"

And there was a man in Jerusalem whose name was Simeon; and this man was righteous and devout, looking forward to the consolation of Israel; and the Holy Spirit was upon him. 26And it had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not see death before he had seen the Lord’s Christ. 27And he came by the Spirit into the temple; and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to carry out for Him the custom of the Law, 28then he took Him in his arms, and blessed God, and said,

29“Now, Lord, You are letting Your bond-servant depart in peace,

According to Your word;

30For my eyes have seen Your Salvation,

31Which You have prepared in the presence of all the peoples:

32A light for revelation for the Gentiles,
And the glory of Your people Israel.”

SHALOM

Do you still believe that I am your brother in Christ?

 

[David in NJ]

Do you still believe that I am your brother in Christ?

This is where the doble standard is applied by of some on here watching

If i were to say to you that you are not saved and need Christ = they would have their feathers curled
BUT, others can openly condemn me for speaking the Gospel: " Jesus Says, If you do not believe who I say IAM you will die in your sins"
and they cry "anti-semitic and condemned by God" when i live and love amongst the Jewish people

Some years ago I was invited to evangelize with 'Jews for Jesus' = but i guess that makes me "anti-semitic"
Led my Jewish wife to her Messiah = the Lord Jesus Christ = meshuganah's says to me "anti-semitic"
Sharing the Gospel to the Jewish people = meshuganah's cry "anti-semitism" "they have God"

As the Hebrew apostle/rabbi filled with the Holy Spirit wrote : "Let God be True and every man a liar" - Romans 3:4