How Many Judgements Of Being Cast Into The Lake of Fire Are There?

[Davy]

BRETHREN IN CHRIST:

For you brethren, I will detail a bit more the Psalms 2 and Revelation 2 Scripture I posted above to Jay Ross, which he obviously does not believe is enough to prove the "thousand years" future reign by Lord Jesus and His elect will be literal.

The following Psalms 2 Scripture is where God promised to Christ Jesus that He would reign over the nations in final with a "rod of iron". It is pointing directly to the future event of Jesus' 2nd coming when He will take that rule over all nations on earth.

Ps 2
1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against His anointed, saying,
3 "Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us."

That above is the attitude of the rebellious leaders of this present world, and is still their attitude against our Heavenly Father and His Son to this day.

4 He That sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

But the last laugh will belong to our Heavenly Father and His Son at the end of this present world.

5 Then shall He speak unto them in His wrath, and vex them in His sore displeasure.

When will the above wrath happen? On the last day of this present world when Jesus' 2nd coming happens, which is about Jesus returning to this earth to take reign over all nations and peoples.

6 Yet have I set My king upon My holy hill of Zion.

That title "Zion" has a wide application in God's Word, but it mainly means the hills that the city of Jerusalem rests upon. That "king" is about our Lord Jesus Christ, King of kings, and LORD of lords. God has ordained that at Lord Jesus' future 2nd coming, He will inherit the throne of His flesh father David, which is an earthly throne. There are all kinds of doctrines of men that try to push Lord Jesus' future reign to Heaven off this earth, but that is not written. Jesus returns to this earth where He ascended to Heaven from, and here on earth at God's Holy Hill Jerusalem, is where Jesus will reign over all nations at His return.

7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, "Thou art My Son; this day have I begotten thee."

That is The Father speaking to The Son Jesus Christ. The idea of Jesus being "begotten" is about Jesus being sent among us being born through woman's womb like us, but to die on the cross and resurrected by The Father offering all that would believe the remission of sins and promise of eternal life.

8 Ask of Me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

The Father is still speaking the above to His Son Jesus Christ. When Lord Jesus returns, He will be the ONLY God over all nations and peoples on earth, ruling over all the earth.

9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

And Jesus' future reign will be with that "rod of iron" upon those nations. That rod of iron is for correction and punishment upon the rebellious for that future time after Jesus' return. Zechariah 14:16-21 reveals that leftovers of the nations that will come up against Jerusalem on the last day of this world will be made to come to Jerusalem to worship Christ, The KING, and keep the Feast of Tabernacles. And those nations which refuse to come up, there will be no rain upon their lands as a punishment. Thus even after Lord Jesus' future return, there will still exist an element of the rebellious. Those are who His "rod of iron" is for.

10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.
KJV

That is about the future event of Christ's literal "thousand years" reign of Revelation 20 over the nations, including unsaved nations. No rain upon the lands of the rebellious nations who refuse to come up to Jerusalem from year to year to worship Christ points to a time when His wrath is kindled but a little. By that it is pointing to that Rev.20 "thousand years" being a literal period.

Rev 2:25-29
25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

Jesus gave this Message to the Church at Thyatira. They had problems and He told them to repent. But what they already had in Him, He told them to hold onto until His future 2nd coming.

26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth My works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of My Father.

There Jesus references The Father's Promise of Psalms 2 to Jesus that He would reign over all nations with that "rod of iron". Jesus promised His elect would reign with Him with that "rod of iron" also.

What this does is reveal the TIME when that reign by Jesus over all nations with that "rod of iron" will take place. By Jesus commanding those at the Church of Tyratira to hold fast what they had until His future coming, that reveals His reign with that "rod of iron" is still future to us, and won't happen until His future 2nd coming.

28 And I will give him the morning star.
29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
KJV

That last phrase, "... what the Spirit saith unto the churches," also reveals the TIMING of this "rod of iron" prophecy and reign over the nations. It reveals that reign is still future to us even with Christ's future return, and with a literal... reigning over all nations on earth. It is easy by a quick look around to know this has not happened yet today. And since it is hard-linked with the Psalms 2 prophecy, it is clear also that Lord Jesus has NOT yet returned today, nor is He reigning on God's Holy Hill Zion in the city of Jerusalem which is on earth, which is where His return will be per Zech.14.

 

[Truth7t7]

the actual Judgement that casts them into the future "lake of fire", which only is judged after... Christ's future "thousand years" reign with His elect.

No such thing as a 1,000 year reign of Jesus on this earth, it's a fabricated fairy tale of man found no place in scripture

Jesus returns immediately after the tribulation in fire and final judgement, dissolving this earth by fire (The End)

Jesus Is The Lord

 

[Zao is life]

If you've gone through the thread about how many times are the 'dead' judged, you'll just find complete confusion. Most there can't even get past their fleshy carnal thinking when the events after Christ's future return have to do with the world to come of Spirit. We all will be in spirit bodies then, no more flesh body existence.

There are many different judgments written of in God's Word, but only ONE final Judgment of being cast into the future "lake of fire", called the "second death" in Revelation 20.


So anyone can ask a loaded question like how many times are the 'dead' judged, and it will not focus on the actual Judgement that casts them into the future "lake of fire", which only is judged after... Christ's future "thousand years" reign with His elect.

Amills like to present such inconsistent arguments in attempt to prove their false position, because they instead wrongly teach that the wicked are all judged in final to the "lake of fire" on the day of Christ's future return, and that the "thousand years" period of Christ's future reign is not literal they believe.

"Although God has overlooked such times of ignorance, he now commands all people everywhere to repent, because he has set a day on which he is going to judge the world in righteousness, by a man whom he designated, having provided proof to everyone by raising him from the dead." (Acts 17:30-31).

Nowhere does scripture suggest more than one "judgment of the dead" day. Compare the scriptures again.

"And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth." (Revelation 11:18)

"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works." (Revelation 20:12)

IMPORTANT VERSES:

"And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail. (Revelation 11:19)

And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. (Revelation 20:11).

1. The judgment of the dead involves the throne of God.
2. Revelation 11:18 talks about the judgment of the dead.
3. Revelation 11:19 - "the ark of the testament/covenant" - in the earthly pattern of the temple, it contained the 10 commandments/tablets of stone - which are a testimony against transgressors of the law.

That ark - with those 10 commandments/tablets of stone inside it - was covered with a lid - the mercy seat - which had to be sprinkled with the blood of (the) atonement in order for God's wrath not to break out - not only upon the priest who took the blood into the holy of holies to sprinkle it on the mercy seat - but also upon the entire unjustified congregation, i.e all the people whose sins were not covered by the blood of atonement (Hebrews 9:11-12; Hebrews 13:11-12).

"And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works." (Revelation 20:13).

Their works will betray/discover their sin (Romans 3:23; Romans 3:10), and the sins of "whosoever was not found written in the book of life" will not be covered by the blood of Christ's atonement.

And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." (Revelation 20:15).

- and there is only one day like the above:

"Although God has overlooked such times of ignorance, he now commands all people everywhere to repent, because he has set a day on which he is going to judge the world in righteousness, by a man whom he designated, having provided proof to everyone by raising him from the dead." (Acts 17:30-31).

One day. Not different days. Not 70 A.D + another day. One day. In the past God has delivered individual nations and empires into the hand of other nations, to be destroyed by those other nations. Each time was a judgment of God. Not the judgment of God - but Revelation 11:18 and 20:12 are both talking about the judgment of the dead:

"And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth." (Revelation 11:18)

"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works." (Revelation 20:12).

So if Revelation 19:7-9 & 14 & 19 is all talking about the bride of Christ and the marriage supper of the Lamb (which is a feast, the food of which is the carcasses of the beast and his armies), then what immediately follows is the judgment of the dead and the bride descending from God out of heaven to live on the new earth

- notice that Revelation 21:5 says that it is "he that sat upon the throne" who said, "Behold, I make all things new." That throne is the one mentioned at the time of the judgment of the dead, who had just been judged. In Revelation 21:6 Jesus says,

"And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely."

It's the same thing said by "the voice that came out out of the temple of heaven, from the throne" when the 7th bowl of wrath was poured out:

"And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done" (Revelation 16:17).

The next time after the above that Jesus Himself is recorded as speaking again (after the above at the time of the 7th bowl of wrath), is in Revelation 21:6 when He says, "It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely." - and again it is "He that sat upon the throne" who is speaking.

Note: It's obvious that the bride of Christ will only come down from heaven to live on the new earth

(a) after the bride of Christ has been resurrected from the dead and have met the Lord in the air (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18); and
(b) after the bride of Christ has returned with Christ to destroy the beast and his armies; and
(c) after the judgment of the dead.

- but it's also obvious that the judgment of the dead will take place immediately after the destruction of the beast:

"And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth." (Revelation 11:18)

"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works." (Revelation 20:12).

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The Premillennialist assumption has always been that the great white throne judgment can only take place after the thousand years because of the place in the Revelation it appears - but we need to bear in mind that the Revelation is not chronological, and the chapter divisions were only inserted in circa 1227 AD, and the verse division even later, in 1555.

To Amils, this is "proof| of Amillennialism - but they don't place the authority of scripture above their own limited understanding - because Amills have to (and indeed always do) deny or ignore many other passages of scripture that clearly speak to the contrary, or change the meaning of what those passages and verses are plainly saying - to the point of ridiculousness.

I do believe that the thousand years is literal, and follows the destruction of the beast - but that means that the thousand years is the first thousand years of the ages of the ages - and Revelation 20:1-10 is parenthetic - while Revelation 20:11 - Revelation 22:19 corresponds with all the things that speak of the return of Christ and the judgment of the dead, and the new heavens and earth that follow immediately afterward:

"He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus." (Revelation 22:20).

Jesus said, "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last." (Revelation 22:13).

* Continued in next post

 

[Zao is life]

(Please read my post prior to this one before reading this one as this one is a continuation):

THE BEGINNING AND THE END WRITTEN INTO THE FIRST THREE AND THE LAST THREE CHAPTERS OF THE BIBLE

Open: Beginning of time: God's creation (Genesis 1:1-31).
Close: Christ makes all things new (Revelation 21:5).

Open: Perfectly good (Genesis 1:31).
Close: Only righteousness dwells in it (Revelation 21:27).

Open: Tree of life (Genesis 2:9, 16-17).
Close: Tree of life (Revelation 21:6; Revelation 22:1-2, 14, 17).

Open: Adam given dominion (Genesis 1:26-28).
Close: The dominion of the last Adam (Revelation 3:21; 20:4).

Open: Satan's deception of Adam & Eve (Genesis 3:1-7, 11-19) ("you will not surely die").

---Jesus said, "I am the Resurrection [anastasis] and the (eternal) life [zoe]!" (John 11:25) ---

Close: Satan's deception of the nations (Gog & Magog) ("you will not surely die").

"And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them." (Revelation 20:9).

Note:

The source of living | being alive [zao] forever (immortality) is eternal life [aionios zoe].

The Bible says very clearly that only God has eternal life in Himself. Our eternal life is given to us in Christ, who alone among human beings has eternal life in Himself.

"When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory." (Colossians 3:4).

The One God who exists is the source of all existence.
The One God who has life [zoe] in Himself is the source of all life.
The One God who is alive [zao] is the God of those who are alive [zao].

Adam began to die when he believed the lie, and sinned.

"Do not fear, I am the First and the Last, and the Living [zao] One, and I became dead, and behold, I am alive [zao] to the ages of the ages, Amen. And I have the keys of hades and of death." (Revelation 1:17-18).

Paul wrote,

"He (Christ) alone possesses immortality and lives in unapproachable light, whom no human has ever seen or is able to see. To him be honor and eternal power! Amen." (1 Timothy 6:15-16).

Can created human beings possess our own immortality (be immortal of ourselves)?

Genesis Chapter 2 tells us about the living [zao] God, who has life [zoe] in Himself, creating human beings and breathing life [zoe] into them in order that they may become living [zao] souls [psyche], so that they may live | may be alive [zao], each one in his own created body on the created earth:

"When the Messiah (the Christ), who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory." (Colossians 3:4).

To possess our own immortality, i.e be immortal of ourselves the way scripture says that Christ is, created human beings need to possess eternal life [zoe] in ourselves, but created human beings do not possess eternal life [zoe] in ourselves - it is given to us in Christ.

The analogy Jesus and biblical scripture gives us of this eternal life [zoe], is living [zao] water (water that is alive). (John 4:10-11; John 7:38), fountains of living waters (Revelation 7:17), a river of water of life [zoe]; the tree of life [zoe]. Those who have been given access to these can freely drink, freely eat the fruit of the tree of life.

Adam and Eve were the first created human beings, and they represent all created human beings (all other human beings having been procreated from the same genetic seed). After creating Adam, God commanded him: "Of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, you shall not eat of it: for in the day that you eat thereof dying you will die." (Genesis 2:17).

What happened to Adam and Eve when they sinned. Did they begin to die?

Yes, they did - but there's a different end for the rebels mentioned at the close of the millennium in Revelation 20: According to Revelation 20, the final rebellion will result in fire coming down from God out of heaven and devouring them, and Satan being thrown into the lake of fire.

 

[Muna]

No such thing as a 1,000 year reign of Jesus on this earth, it's a fabricated fairy tale of man found no place in scripture

Jesus returns immediately after the tribulation in fire and final judgement, dissolving this earth by fire (The End)

Jesus Is The Lord

Truth7t7, you can be pretty good at lining things up as I have seen you do it, but how how you divide these (in respects to how they refer tto the reigning between them)

For example, these

Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power,
but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Rev 22:5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light:
and they shall reign for ever and ever.

How are you catching each of these?

If or whenever you have the time to set them out.

 

[Davy]

No such thing as a 1,000 year reign of Jesus on this earth, it's a fabricated fairy tale of man found no place in scripture

What you say above is the FABRICATION not written. It comes from deceived men of the old Christian school at Alexandria, Egypt which was surrounded by pagan philosophers, of which those like Origen and Clement picked up some of their ideas from pagan Gnosticism.

Christ's future "thousand years" reign with His elect, and the promised "rod of iron", over all nations, is WRITTEN IN GOD'S WORD, in REVELATION 20.

 

[Davy]

"Although God has overlooked such times of ignorance, he now commands all people everywhere to repent, because he has set a day on which he is going to judge the world in righteousness, by a man whom he designated, having provided proof to everyone by raising him from the dead." (Acts 17:30-31).

Your rhetoric against the actual written Bible Scripture is EASY... to refute your false belief against Christ's future "thousand years" reign of Rev.20. Didn't you know that God's Word does NOT CONTRADICT ITSELF?

So brethren, what did Apostle Paul mean by that "day" in that Acts 17:31 verse? It is about the 'start' of Christ's future "thousand years" reign that begins on the last day of this world at His future coming, which is also called "the day of the Lord" in Bible Scripture. And Apostle Peter in 1 Peter 3:8-9 also referred to that "day" idea being to God equal to a "thousand years".

Thusly, Zao shows a Biblically illiterate use of what Apostle Paul said to attempt to push his false agenda of man's fake Amil theory against the literal "thousand years" reign by Lord Jesus at His coming.

Nowhere does scripture suggest more than one "judgment of the dead" day. Compare the scriptures again.

"And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth." (Revelation 11:18)

"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works." (Revelation 20:12)

Once again, Zao tries... to get us to LIMIT our Bible Scripture focus to just the verses man-made doctrines like the Amil theory proposes. It is obvious... that per John 5:28-29 by Lord Jesus, that He showed on the day of His future coming, ALL... the dead will be raised, those who did good to the "resurrection of life", and those who did evil to the "resurrection of damnation". That event IS... a type of 'judgment' on the day of Christ's future return. But it is NOT about the Great White Throne Judgment that will cast the wicked into the future "lake of fire" after Christ's "thousand years" reign.

And Revelation 20 is NOT THE ONLY BIBLE SCRIPTURE that shows the continued EXISTENCE of the WICKED after Christ's future return. Moreover, the "resurrection of damnation" is ONLY about the wicked dead who are raised on the day of Christ's coming. It is not about the wicked that will still be alive on earth when Jesus comes, although all the wicked will be joined together in the same place ("outer darkness") under Jesus' 1,000 years reign with His elect. This means, that after Jesus returns, the idea of the "dead" is about being SPIRITUALLY DEAD WITHOUT CHRIST, AND THUS THEIR SOUL & SPIRIT STILL SUBJECT TO THE "SECOND DEATH" OF BEING CAST INTO THE "LAKE OF FIRE" AFTER THE 1,000 YEARS.

IMPORTANT VERSES:

"And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail. (Revelation 11:19)

And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. (Revelation 20:11).

1. The judgment of the dead involves the throne of God.
2. Revelation 11:18 talks about the judgment of the dead.
3. Revelation 11:19 - "the ark of the testament/covenant" - in the earthly pattern of the temple, it contained the 10 commandments/tablets of stone - which are a testimony against transgressors of the law.

Notice how Zao thinks he can just BYPASS all those PREVIOUS Revelation 20 verses and only stop at verse 11. That is men's doctrines CHOPPING UP THE WORD OF GOD to try and make God's Word fit their little false agendas. Let's see what was written in that Revelation 20 Chapter PRIOR that Zao bypassed...

Rev 20:1-10
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

Wow! Right off the bat, Revelation 20 reveals the devil will be bound in chains in his prison for a LITERAL PERIOD OF A "thousand years"! Notice there is NO metaphor, parable, or allegory given about that "thousand years". When God's Word does that, it is meant literally.

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

There's a second mention of that literal "thousand years" period when Satan will be locked in his pit prison. As of right now, today, per Peter, Satan is still roaming like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour (1 Peter 5:8). So we know... Satan is not locked in his pit prison just yet today.

(Continued...)

 

[Davy]

(Continued...)

Rev.20
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Because the above is pointing to the saints who WENT THROUGH THE "GREAT TRIBULATION", and refused to bow or worship the beast, nor take his mark, that makes these Revelation 20 Scripture to be FUTURE to us. And the above verse reveals Christ's 2nd coming and gathering of His saints has happened by that point, for those saints are shown reigning with Christ for that previously mentioned "thousand years" period.

Why is all that important to know? It is because men's false doctrines again try to confuse what that Scripture clearly shows. Man's false Amil doctrines instead try to claim that "thousand years" is NOT a literal period, but instead is just a SPIRITUAL IDEA. Amil often tries to apply that 1,000 years to the date of the cross forward to our time, which is indeed ludicrous. They propose just any stupid idea to try and get around that 1,000 years being a literal period.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Those of verse 4 above represent that "first resurrection". So there again, these verses place these events for AFTER Christ's future 2nd coming return and at the start of His future reign.

Because the ordinal number of "first" is mentioned, that suggests there will be at least one more resurrection type LIKE THE 1ST. The error many make is thinking that 2nd resurrection suggestion has to be about the wicked. It is not. It is about those who convert to Jesus DURING His "thousand years" reign of that time. And at the Great White Throne Judgment, after the 1,000 years, their names are found in the Book of Life.


6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Of course the "second death" will have no power over Christ's elect that reign with Him that are of that "first resurrection." That "second death" is about the casting of one's soul & spirit in the future "lake of fire" AFTER the "thousand years" literal period.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

Once again, when God's Word gives a time period in that way above, it is meant literally. After that "thousand years" period mentioned in the previous verses, Satan will then be loosed from his pit prison. He was locked up so as to not be able to deceive the nations. So have you ever heard of that having happened since the cross up to our time today? No, like Peter said, Satan is still roaming around like a lion in today's world. He isn't locked in his prison yet today. Those who say he is are only trying to get you to buy into the Amil position against what God's Word says as written.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Satan then leads that final army upon the "camp of the saints" and "beloved city" that will be located ON THE EARTH. Just where on earth would that be per God's Word? Zechariah 14 reveals Jesus will LITERALLY RETURN to the Mount of Olives east of Jerusalem, bringing ALL His elect saints with Him there at Jerusalem, ON EARTH. So there's no need for confusion on that, and the devil especially doesn't want us Christians to know about that Zechariah 14 Scripture.

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
KJV

Only AFTER... that LITERAL THOUSAND YEARS PERIOD, and Satan being loosed in final to deceive those UNSAVED nations of the WICKED, will Satan then be cast into the "lake of fire". That happens just PRIOR to God's Great White Throne Judgment. So the above Rev.20:7-9 verses bring up a question. Is that event when God brings fire down upon those unsaved nations that Satan leads a type of Judgment? It sure is! And there are still OTHERS yet to be judged to the "lake of fire" at this point in Rev.20!

Since Zao has provided so much useless canon fodder against what the actual Bible Scriptures teach as written, I will have to come back to continue this another time.

 

[Zao is life]

So brethren, what did Apostle Paul mean by that "day" in that Acts 17:31 verse? It is about the 'start' of Christ's future "thousand years" reign that begins on the last day of this world at His future coming, which is also called "the day of the Lord" in Bible Scripture. And Apostle Peter in 1 Peter 3:8-9 also referred to that "day" idea being to God equal to a "thousand years".

Peter was talking about the return of Christ and all over the New Testament it speaks of a day which comes as a thief in the night upon those who are not ready and watching for the return of Christ.

2 Peter 3

CONTEXT:

7 But by the same word the present heavens and earth have been reserved for fire, by being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.
8 Now, dear friends, do not let this one thing escape your notice, that a single day is like a thousand years with the Lord and a thousand years are like a single day.

SAME CONTEXT CONTINUED:
9 The Lord is not slow concerning his promise, as some regard slowness, but is being patient toward you, because he does not wish for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief; when it comes, the heavens will disappear with a horrific noise, and the celestial bodies will melt away in a blaze, and the earth and every deed done on it will be laid bare.

It's only in your (rather sadistic) dream-world that scripture teaches us that Jesus is going to spend a thousand years judging the dead - on that day appointed by God - which I quoted and which you are talking about above - the day appointed by God when the dead are judged.

But you corrupt scripture and it's meaning in order to force scripture to comply with your false assertions. LOL. Then you tell everyone not to listen to anybody who merely quotes scripture and speaks about what scripture is saying - so that you can continue to corrupt scripture by corrupting its meaning, and change it to force it to comply with your ludicrous assertions! (like below - which shows that you never even read what I said about Amil and the thousand years):

Thusly, Zao shows a Biblically illiterate use of what Apostle Paul said to attempt to push his false agenda of man's fake Amil theory against the literal "thousand years" reign by Lord Jesus at His coming.

The fact that I did not say that the thousand years of Revelation 20 is not literal is besides the point

- because the things you say shows that you're too much of a novice to get it - because it betrays your own biblical illiteracy to assert or even imply that the day appointed by God, which is mentioned by an apostle in Acts as well as all over the New Testament, when Christ will judge the living and the dead - is talking about a period of time which will last a full thousand years, taking a thousand years for a day.

So I need not waste my time on you anymore than this. You will never get it, because - as your assertions betray - you do not believe scripture, but instead believe your own limited human understanding of scripture.

LOL. The useless canon-fodder you mentioned can be found all over your posts - and in your hubris you consider yourself quite the "teacher".

Once again, Zao tries... to get us to LIMIT our Bible Scripture focus to just the verses man-made doctrines like the Amil theory proposes. It is obvious... that per John 5:28-29 by Lord Jesus, that He showed on the day of His future coming, ALL... the dead will be raised, those who did good to the "resurrection of life", and those who did evil to the "resurrection of damnation". That event IS... a type of 'judgment' on the day of Christ's future return. But it is NOT about the Great White Throne Judgment that will cast the wicked into the future "lake of fire" after Christ's "thousand years" reign.

And Revelation 20 is NOT THE ONLY BIBLE SCRIPTURE that shows the continued EXISTENCE of the WICKED after Christ's future return. Moreover, the "resurrection of damnation" is ONLY about the wicked dead who are raised on the day of Christ's coming. It is not about the wicked that will still be alive on earth when Jesus comes, although all the wicked will be joined together in the same place ("outer darkness") under Jesus' 1,000 years reign with His elect. This means, that after Jesus returns, the idea of the "dead" is about being SPIRITUALLY DEAD WITHOUT CHRIST, AND THUS THEIR SOUL & SPIRIT STILL SUBJECT TO THE "SECOND DEATH" OF BEING CAST INTO THE "LAKE OF FIRE" AFTER THE 1,000 YEARS.

Notice how Zao thinks he can just BYPASS all those PREVIOUS Revelation 20 verses and only stop at verse 11. That is men's doctrines CHOPPING UP THE WORD OF GOD to try and make God's Word fit their little false agendas. Let's see what was written in that Revelation 20 Chapter PRIOR that Zao bypassed...

Rev 20:1-10
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

Wow! Right off the bat, Revelation 20 reveals the devil will be bound in chains in his prison for a LITERAL PERIOD OF A "thousand years"! Notice there is NO metaphor, parable, or allegory given about that "thousand years". When God's Word does that, it is meant literally.

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

There's a second mention of that literal "thousand years" period when Satan will be locked in his pit prison. As of right now, today, per Peter, Satan is still roaming like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour (1 Peter 5:8). So we know... Satan is not locked in his pit prison just yet today.

(Continued...)

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Truth7t7, you can be pretty good at lining things up as I have seen you do it, but how how you divide these (in respects to how they refer tto the reigning between them)

For example, these

Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Notice that we have been MADE unto our God kings and priests. Present tense. Where are we located? On the earth. That's talking about a present reality. It says "shall reign", but he's not just talking about believers who were alive at that time, so that's why it is worded that way. He is saying he and the believers at that time and all believers going forward from that time "shall reign on the earth" as the kings and priests that we have been made into.

Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Notice that it refers to "our Lord" and "his Christ" there. So, that is referring to God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ. When it says "He shall reign for ever and ever, it's referring to God the Father. Paul taught in 1 Corinthians 15:22-24 that when Jesus comes then the end will come when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father. So, it's God the Father who will reign at that point with even Jesus Himself being subject to the Father, as Paul goes on to explain in 1 Cor 15:25-28. Not that Jesus won't reign at that point as well, but just in subjection to the Father (but no one else).

Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power,
but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Compare that verse to this passage and notice the similarities.

Revelation 1:5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth. To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood, 6 and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.

This passage indicates that Jesus Christ reigns NOW and has been for a long time and that believers have been made kings and priests to God the Father and Son. That MUST be taken into account when reading Revelation 20 and when understanding the timing of Revelation 20:6. Also, does the second death have any power over anyone who belongs to Christ right now? No. It says the second death has no power over those who have had part in the first resurrection and it has no power over anyone, dead or alive, who is in Christ right now, so that needs to be taken into consideration, also.

 

[Muna]

Notice that we have been MADE unto our God kings and priests. Present tense. Where are we located? On the earth. That's talking about a present reality. It says "shall reign", but he's not just talking about believers who were alive at that time, so that's why it is worded that way. He is saying he and the believers at that time and all believers going forward from that time "shall reign on the earth" as the kings and priests that we have been made into.


Notice that it refers to "our Lord" and "his Christ" there. So, that is referring to God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ. When it says "He shall reign for ever and ever, it's referring to God the Father. Paul taught in 1 Corinthians 15:22-24 that when Jesus comes then the end will come when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father. So, it's God the Father who will reign at that point with even Jesus Himself being subject to the Father, as Paul goes on to explain in 1 Cor 15:25-28. Not that Jesus won't reign at that point as well, but just in subjection to the Father (but no one else).


Compare that verse to this passage and notice the similarities.

Revelation 1:5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth. To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood, 6 and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.

This passage indicates that Jesus Christ reigns NOW and has been for a long time and that believers have been made kings and priests to God the Father and Son. That MUST be taken into account when reading Revelation 20 and when understanding the timing of Revelation 20:6. Also, does the second death have any power over anyone who belongs to Christ right now? No. It says the second death has no power over those who have had part in the first resurrection and it has no power over anyone, dead or alive, who is in Christ right now, so that needs to be taken into consideration, also.

Thank you @Spiritual Israelite much appreciated, and just for my own knowledge (because I am not sure who is who all the time) I know you are an Amil is @Truth7t7 an Amil or a Premil.

I want to be sure I hear from both on this, and if @Truth7t7 is a Premil I would also like to invite him to express perhaps where he might differ on what you shared in the above (Or any Premill for that matter) being curious between the differences.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Thank you @Spiritual Israelite much appreciated, and just for my own knowledge (because I am not sure who is who all the time) I know you are an Amil

Just to confirm, yes, I am an Amil.

is @Truth7t7 an Amil or a Premil.

He is an Amil, but he is also a futurist, so he has some beliefs that are more in common with a typical Premil than a typical Amil, such as how he interprets all of the Olivet Discourse in a futurist sense and how he interprets most of Revelation in a futurist sense.

 

[Davy]

....
- and there is only one day like the above:

"Although God has overlooked such times of ignorance, he now commands all people everywhere to repent, because he has set a day on which he is going to judge the world in righteousness, by a man whom he designated, having provided proof to everyone by raising him from the dead." (Acts 17:30-31).

One day. Not different days. Not 70 A.D + another day. One day. In the past God has delivered individual nations and empires into the hand of other nations, to be destroyed by those other nations. Each time was a judgment of God. Not the judgment of God - but Revelation 11:18 and 20:12 are both talking about the judgment of the dead:

"And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth." (Revelation 11:18)

"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works." (Revelation 20:12).

So if Revelation 19:7-9 & 14 & 19 is all talking about the bride of Christ and the marriage supper of the Lamb (which is a feast, the food of which is the carcasses of the beast and his armies), then what immediately follows is the judgment of the dead and the bride descending from God out of heaven to live on the new earth

- notice that Revelation 21:5 says that it is "he that sat upon the throne" who said, "Behold, I make all things new." That throne is the one mentioned at the time of the judgment of the dead, who had just been judged. In Revelation 21:6 Jesus says,

Again, I have already shown how Apostle Peter in 2 Peter 3:8 pointed to Christ's future "thousand years" reign when he said a 'day' to God is like a thousand years... and that God does not wish that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance...

2 Peter 3:8-9
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
KJV

Peter was teaching about the 3 world earth ages in that 2 Peter 3 chapter. Thus one MUST consult God's Word on how that "day" Zao is talking about is meant, and that 2 Peter 3:8 Scripture is one place where that specific "day" is defined as a "thousand years" to God. Psalms 90:4 gives another example of what this 'day' equals in God's timing.

Apostle Paul also recognized that future "day" of Christ's "thousand years" reign NOT just as a 24 hour period day like we know...

1 Cor 5:5
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
KJV

What's that "... that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus" about? Paul said to cast that sinner out of the Church at Corinth so his spirit... might be saved during Christ's future "thousand years" reign. That's the "day of the Lord Jesus" Paul was pointing to, and he didn't have to say a 1,000 years for us to know this.

Now Amil wrongly believes there is no literal "thousand years" future reign by Christ and His elect at His 2nd coming. They wrongly believe that on the day of Christ's future return, ALL the wicked are destroyed, and we immediately go into God's future new heavens and a new earth timing. That is NOT what God's written Word teaches.

In Zechariah 14, a Chapter that reveals Christ's future return to this earth on the "day of the Lord", bringing His saints with Him to the Mount of Olives on earth to begin His future reign over all nations with His "rod of iron" of Ps.2, that Chapter reveals leftovers of the wicked who will come up against Jerusalem on the last day of this present world, will be made to go up to Jerusalem from year to year and worship Christ, THE KING, and keep the Feast of Tabernacles. And those nations then which refuse... to come up to worship, there will be no rain upon their lands. Now all that happens AFTER Christ's future return. And that... definitely IS NOT the new heavens and a new earth timing.

Now I cannot help it if Amils have deleted that Zechariah 14 Chapter out of their Bibles, yet they have NO EXCUSE to teach around it as if it doesn't exist. Thus their doctrines of men are NOT to be trusted.

 

[Davy]

Peter was talking about the return of Christ and all over the New Testament it speaks of a day which comes as a thief in the night upon those who are not ready and watching for the return of Christ.

2 Peter 3

CONTEXT:

7 But by the same word the present heavens and earth have been reserved for fire, by being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.
8 Now, dear friends, do not let this one thing escape your notice, that a single day is like a thousand years with the Lord and a thousand years are like a single day.

SAME CONTEXT CONTINUED:
9 The Lord is not slow concerning his promise, as some regard slowness, but is being patient toward you, because he does not wish for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief; when it comes, the heavens will disappear with a horrific noise, and the celestial bodies will melt away in a blaze, and the earth and every deed done on it will be laid bare.

It's only in your (rather sadistic) dream-world that scripture teaches us that Jesus is going to spend a thousand years judging the dead - on that day appointed by God - which I quoted and which you are talking about above - the day appointed by God when the dead are judged.

But you corrupt scripture and it's meaning in order to force scripture to comply with your false assertions. LOL. Then you tell everyone not to listen to anybody who merely quotes scripture and speaks about what scripture is saying - so that you can continue to corrupt scripture by corrupting its meaning, and change it to force it to comply with your ludicrous assertions! (like below - which shows that you never even read what I said about Amil and the thousand years):

The fact that I did not say that the thousand years of Revelation 20 is not literal is besides the point

- because the things you say shows that you're too much of a novice to get it - because it betrays your own biblical illiteracy to assert or even imply that the day appointed by God, which is mentioned by an apostle in Acts as well as all over the New Testament, when Christ will judge the living and the dead - is talking about a period of time which will last a full thousand years, taking a thousand years for a day.

So I need not waste my time on you anymore than this. You will never get it, because - as your assertions betray - you do not believe scripture, but instead believe your own limited human understanding of scripture.

LOL. The useless canon-fodder you mentioned can be found all over your posts - and in your hubris you consider yourself quite the "teacher".

You LIE, saying I corrupt the Scripture. It is YOU that has latched onto a doctrine of men that LIES against the written Word of God.

And here is one way YOU LIE against the 2 Peter 3 Scripture...

2 Peter 3:8-9
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
KJV

You only quoted that verse 8 above, but not that 9th verse that goes with it. Why was that? EASY! It is because the false Amil doctrine of men you are on doesn't BELIEVE ANY REPENTANCE STILL EXISTS AFTER CHRIST'S FUTURE RETURN, because Amil does not believe any 'unsaved' still exist on the day of Jesus' future return!

But like the primitive monkey who came up with the FALSE AMILLENNIUM IDEAS, they do not care about God's Mercy upon the sinners who repent! They want them ALL... to perish at the "lake of fire" which THEY wrongly claim happens on the 'day' of Christ's future return, which is NOT written.

What today's primitive monkey types on Amil likewise do is just bypass... any and all Bible Scripture that reveals the wicked will still... exist after Christ's future coming, and into His future reign with His elect!

 

[Zao is life]

You LIE, saying I corrupt the Scripture. It is YOU that has latched onto a doctrine of men that LIES against the written Word of God.

And here is one way YOU LIE against the 2 Peter 3 Scripture...

2 Peter 3:8-9
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
KJV

You only quoted that verse 8 above, but not that 9th verse that goes with it. Why was that? EASY! It is because the false Amil doctrine of men you are on doesn't BELIEVE ANY REPENTANCE STILL EXISTS AFTER CHRIST'S FUTURE RETURN, because Amil does not believe any 'unsaved' still exist on the day of Jesus' future return!

But like the primitive monkey who came up with the FALSE AMILLENNIUM IDEAS, they do not care about God's Mercy upon the sinners who repent! They want them ALL... to perish at the "lake of fire" which THEY wrongly claim happens on the 'day' of Christ's future return, which is NOT written.

What today's primitive monkey types on Amil likewise do is just bypass... any and all Bible Scripture that reveals the wicked will still... exist after Christ's future coming, and into His future reign with His elect!

It's good that you talk like you do above - because it helps your readers to see that even the fact that you think you have the right to talk to people like that, is evidence that you lack the Spirit of Christ, and in your hubris imagine yourself a "teacher" of the things regarding which you have no idea what you are talking about - making you a false teacher, and a corrupter of the Word of God.

Maybe you're just a troll who knows why he posts what he posts is nonsense (which would also explain your false accusations regarding many who disagree with you)?

Not sure, but whatever the case may be (in your case), as I said, you're not worth wasting time on (Matthew 7:6) because you betray the fact that you do not have enough respect for the Word of God not to go on like a troll in almost all your posts.

 

[jeffweeder]

What today's primitive monkey types on Amil likewise do is just bypass... any and all Bible Scripture that reveals the wicked will still... exist after Christ's future coming, and into His future reign with His elect!

Post just one or all of them.

Will he do it folks?


21 For at that time there will be a great tribulation (pressure, distress, oppression), such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will [again]. 22 And if those days [of tribulation] had not been cut short, no human life would be saved; but for the sake of the elect (God’s chosen ones) those days will be shortened.


Just like Noah's day, Gods intervention on behalf of the righteous few will completely eliminate those who do not belong him.


5 This is a positive proof of the righteous judgment of God [a sign of His fair verdict], so that you will be considered worthy of His kingdom, for which indeed you are suffering. 6 For after all it is only just for God to repay with distress those who distress you, 7 and to give relief to you who are so distressed and to us as well when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in a flame of fire, 8 dealing out [full and complete] vengeance to those who do not [seek to] know God and to those who ignore and refuse to obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus [by choosing not to respond to Him]. 9 These people will pay the penalty and endure the punishment of everlasting destruction, banished from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes to be glorified in His saints on that day

 

[Truth7t7]

Truth7t7, you can be pretty good at lining things up as I have seen you do it, but how how you divide these (in respects to how they refer tto the reigning between them)

For example, these

Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

The church on earth are presently in the kingdom of God, ruling as kings and priest in the spiritual

Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

This explains the second coming on the last day when this world will be dissolved by fire

In the twinkling of and eye tye resurrection of all, judgement of all, and eternal new heaven, earth, Jerusalem are revealed for eternity, the wicked to the eternal lake of fire

Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power,
but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Revelation 20:6 "The First Resurrection" Explained

There will be "Two Future Resurrections" on "The Last Day" the righteous saved are "Blessed" to be in "The First Resurrection" to eternal life, the second death resurrection has no power over the righteous saved

The second death will see the unsaved wicked being in "The Second Resurrection" to eternal damnation in the lake of fire, or the "Second Death"

"The Last Day" Resurrection of "All"

John 6:39-40KJV

39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Revelation 20:6KJV
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

1.) The First Resurrection To Eternal Life
2.) The Second Resurrection To Eternal Damnation, Second Death

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

(The First Resurrection Of The Righteous Saved) The Dead In Christ Shall Rise "First"

1 Thessalonians 4:16KJV
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

(The Second Resurrection Of The Wicked To The Second Death In Eternal Damnation)

Revelation 20:13-14KJV
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Rev 22:5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light:
and they shall reign for ever and ever.

The New Jerusalem in the eternal New Heaven and Earth, also seen in Revelation chapter 21

 

[Truth7t7]

In Zechariah 14, a Chapter that reveals Christ's future return to this earth on the "day of the Lord", bringing His saints with Him to the Mount of Olives on earth to begin His future reign over all nations with His "rod of iron" of Ps.2, that Chapter reveals leftovers of the wicked who will come up against Jerusalem on the last day of this present world, will be made to go up to Jerusalem from year to year and worship Christ, THE KING, and keep the Feast of Tabernacles. And those nations then which refuse... to come up to worship, there will be no rain upon their lands. Now all that happens AFTER Christ's future return. And that... definitely IS NOT the new heavens and a new earth timing.

Now I cannot help it if Amils have deleted that Zechariah 14 Chapter out of their Bibles, yet they have NO EXCUSE to teach around it as if it doesn't exist. Thus their doctrines of men are NOT to be trusted.

Zechariah Chapter 14 Represents "The Eternal Kingdom" after the day of the Lord takes place

Zechariah 14:1-12 below shows the Lords return to earth in fire in final judgement.

(Verse 1) shows "The Day Of The Lord" also seen in 2 Peter 3:10-13 "Fire Judgement" below

(Verse 2) Shows that all nations are gathered for the final battle of armageddon.

(Verses 3-5) shows the Lords return, and his eternal feet touch down on the earthly Mt, of Olives, and in the "Twinkling Of An Eye" 1 Cor 15:52 takes place, in the catching up, resurrection, final judgement by fire, and the New Heavens, Earth, and Jerusalem being revealed for eternity, judgement complete, eternity begins.

(Verses 6-7) Eternal light seen, in the eternal kingdom, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 8) The river of life is seen, Rev 22:1-5

(Verse 10) The New creation is being revealed, the plain is lifted up.

(Verse 12) "The Day Of The Lord" showing the "Last Day" judgement by the Lords fire, as men are consumed as they stand on their feet, 2 Peter 3:10-13

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Revelation 22:1KJV
And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

"The Eternal Kingdom"!

Zechariah 14:1-12KJV
14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 but it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
9 And the Lordshall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin’s gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king’s winepresses.
11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

 

[Truth7t7]

Thank you @Spiritual Israelite much appreciated, and just for my own knowledge (because I am not sure who is who all the time) I know you are an Amil is @Truth7t7 an Amil or a Premil.

I want to be sure I hear from both on this, and if @Truth7t7 is a Premil I would also like to invite him to express perhaps where he might differ on what you shared in the above (Or any Premill for that matter) being curious between the differences.

Yes I'm Amil in the sense a literal 1,000 year kingdom on this earth isn't found in scripture, Jesus returns in fire and final judgment (The End)

I believe that the Olivet discourse is future unfulfilled,
1.) Matt 24:15 Daniel's AOD
2.) Matt 24:21 The Great Tribulation
3.) Matt 24:29-31 The Second Coming

Many preterist reformed Amil teach and believe that the afore mentioned took place in 66-70AD, and that Matthew 24:29-31 isn't a future literal second coming of Jesus in the heavens, but that it was a Judgement upon Israel in 70AD

Many preterist reformed Amil teach and believe that there won't be a future evil human man known as John's "The Beast"

Many preterist reformed Amil teach and believe that there won't be two literal prophets returned as the (Two Witnesses) in physical bodies, they believe and teach the (Two Witnesses) represent the old and new testaments

A few mentions on the differences of my belief compared to traditional preterist reformed Amillennialism

 

[Truth7t7]

Christ's future "thousand years" reign with His elect, and the promised "rod of iron", over all nations, is WRITTEN IN GOD'S WORD, in REVELATION 20.

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived​

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.