Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

[Spiritual Israelite]

Like I've told WPM I won't be moved by your opinions unless you can prove what you allege from the Word of God.

He and I have done that many times and you refuse to acknowledge what we show you from the Word of God. That's on you and is 100% your fault for being unteachable.

I don't! This is your way of twisting or isolating what I've said to make it appear that I believe this! I understand the difference between darkness after God divided darkness from the light and called the darkness night and the light day.

You have no idea of how you come across with your comments. Don't blame me for your inability to communicate clearly.

However, according to what is written the earth was without form and darkness (that was not yet called night) was upon the face of the deep until God spoke light into the darkness.

And that was clearly referring to physical light and darkness. He called the light day and the darkness night. This is very basic, elementary stuff that you are failing to understand. It's truly unbelievable.

After that division of darkness and light then we learn the light God calls day and the darkness He calls night day one.

Hello? Does that come across as metaphorical light and darkness to you?

As I already said I believe this darkness in the beginning before God called it night and the light day, metaphorically represents death/evil.

How did metaphorical darkness turn into physical night? Huh? You just have no idea how nonsensical your comments are.

That's what was before God spoke light into the darkness. If you don't understand how darkness throughout the Bible is symbolic of evil and death then there is nothing more to be said.

Hello?! Did I deny the existence of evil symbolized as darkness? No, I did not. Please stop making these kinds of foolish comments.

Not only does this darkness over the land of Egypt represent literal physical darkness, but it is also symbolic of the spiritual darkness that covered the land, which is why God's wrath was poured out upon Egypt, interestingly for THREE DAYS.

It's a wonder that you acknowledge that it was literal physical darkness over the literal physical land of Egypt.

Only a doctrinally immature person would not understand this darkness for THREE HOURS was not only literal, but also spiritually symbolic for the spiritual darkness that caused Christ to be crucified.

All I was doing was proving that scripture does not only refer to darkness in a symbolic sense. You didn't seem to understand that. I guess maybe you do. Congratulations.

You accuse me of very badly interpreting Gen 1 when you completely ignore verses 1-2 where God describes what existed before He said "Let there by light"?

LOL. What?! He clearly was talking about creating physical light there. How can you deny this? That's why he called it the day in contrast to the night when things are physically dark. Goodness gracious.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Hello! It is talking about natural darkness and natural light. Check the context. He is speaking about the natural order, He then turns to the spiritual. The natural came 1st. That is a biblical pattern.

This is very obvious and he still doesn't get it. How can he understand the truth of Amil and at the same time not understand such simple, elementary things as this? It's baffling.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Your intellectual prowess overwhelms! But as usual you write nothing to refute my reply. You are the one who needs to repent!

He has written PLENTY to refute the beliefs you have promoted in this thread. It's very dishonest of you to act otherwise.

 

[WPM]

This is very obvious and he still doesn't get it. How can he understand the truth of Amil and at the same time not understand such simple, elementary things as this? It's baffling.

He doesn't want to get it. He has bought into the absurdity of this teaching. Hard to believe. It is so nonsensical and so unbiblical.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

HELLO YOURSELF! God is describing what existed prior to Him speaking light into the darkness! The darkness was there before God spoke and divided the darkness from the light. The natural light that divided the day from the night to give natural light upon the earth was NOT created until the fourth day.

Yes, that is in relation to the earth. That doesn't mean the light referenced in the following passage wasn't natural light and the darkness wasn't natural darkness.

Genesis 1:3 Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day.

What do you think, that this verse is talking about symbolic light and darkness and that symbolic light was called day and symbolic darkness was called night and that made the first day? If so, that's ridiculous. This is clearly talking about natural light and natural darkness, but just not specifically in relation to the earth

That's when God made two great lights, the greater one, the sun to rule the day and the lesser light the moon to rule the night. He created the stars also on day four.

Genesis 1:14-19 (KJV) And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

The darkness that existed before God created the sun and moon is not NATURAL darkness and light, it is metaphorically speaking of spiritual darkness/death. The light God spoke into the darkness came BEFORE natural light of the sun, moon, and stars that God created on the fourth day.

Nonsense. The light and darkness referenced before that were divided into day and night. Spiritual or metaphorical light and darkness would not be separated into day and night. Only natural light and darkness would be described as being separated into day and night.

 

[rwb]

Yes, that is in relation to the earth. That doesn't mean the light referenced in the following passage wasn't natural light and the darkness wasn't natural darkness.

Genesis 1:3 Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day.

What do you think, that this verse is talking about symbolic light and darkness and that symbolic light was called day and symbolic darkness was called night and that made the first day? If so, that's ridiculous. This is clearly talking about natural light and natural darkness, but just not specifically in relation to the earth

Prove what you allege from the Word of God! I used Scripture to support why I believe the darkness that was there before the sun and moon were created is metaphor for evil/death. If you can't defend why you don't agree using the Word of God, your unbiblical opinions are meaningless to me.

How is the light natural day and the darkness natural light on day one before God created the sun, moon, and stars on day four? Do you not agree natural darkness and light comes through sun and moon, that were not created when God spoke His light into the darkness and divided the darkness from the light. Calling the light day and the darkness night on day one cannot be natural light and darkness that shall not shine upon the earth until day four. For that reason, the darkness metaphorically speaks of evil that brings death, and the light speaks metaphorically of the Light of God that brings life. Read the passage for yourself.

Genesis 1:14-19 (KJV) And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Nonsense. The light and darkness referenced before that were divided into day and night. Spiritual or metaphorical light and darkness would not be separated into day and night. Only natural light and darkness would be described as being separated into day and night.

Now who's being foolish? Prove what you allege by showing through the Word of God why darkness used metaphorically throughout the Word of God does not represent evil/death, and why light God spoke into existence is not metaphorically representative of the Light of God that is the TRUE Light that came from God.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Prove what you allege from the Word of God!

I do repeatedly. As does WPM and you say ridiculous things like this to him as well.

I used Scripture to support why I believe the darkness that was there before the sun and moon were created is metaphor for evil/death. If you can't defend why you don't agree using the Word of God, your unbiblical opinions are meaningless to me.

You did not use scripture to show how in the world the light and darkness referenced before the sun and moon were created could be referred to as day and night if they are metaphorical light and darkness. How about explaining that?

How is the light natural day and the darkness natural light on day one before God created the sun, moon, and stars on day four?

Can natural light only shine on the earth? What about stars that are not in the same galaxy as the earth? Is their light night not natural since it doesn't shine on the earth? Can natural darkness only exist on the earth? You seem to think that natural light and natural darkness can't exist apart from the earth and that makes no sense.

Do you not agree natural darkness and light comes through sun and moon, that were not created when God spoke His light into the darkness and divided the darkness from the light.

I do not agree that natural darkness and light can only be things that are related to the sun, moon and earth. There are stars in galaxies very far from the earth that shine natural light. You seem to have this nonsensical idea that natural light and darkness can only exist in relation to the sun, moon and the earth.

Calling the light day and the darkness night on day one cannot be natural light and darkness that shall not shine upon the earth until day four.

Are you saying that you think that the light created on the first day is only referred to as symbolic day and the darkness on the first day is only referred to as symbolic night? Do you deny that God created the heavens and the earth in six literal days, including the first day when the light and darkness were divided into day and night?

Now who's being foolish?

It's still you and always has been you when it comes to this topic.

Prove what you allege by showing through the Word of God why darkness used metaphorically throughout the Word of God does not represent evil/death,

I have never claimed this! It's not hard to prove that you are the one being foolish when you continue to make foolish comments like this. I've made it clear that the Word of God does speak of darkness metaphorically, but it also refers to natural, physical darkness as well.

and why light God spoke into existence is not metaphorically representative of the Light of God that is the TRUE Light that came from God.

You think the light God spoke into existence refers to metaphorical day in contrast to metaphorical light and that makes up the first day? That would mean you think the first day is only metaphorical rather than being one of the six literal days in which God created the heavens and the earth. Is that what you are intending to claim?

 

[rwb]

I do repeatedly. As does WPM and you say ridiculous things like this to him as well.

No, you most often do NOT! Instead, you usually give a nasty opinionated statement as if that proves what was said is error. You seldom refute what is said with the Word of God. I understand why, because it's hard to argue against truth.

You did not use scripture to show how in the world the light and darkness referenced before the sun and moon were created could be referred to as day and night if they are metaphorical light and darkness. How about explaining that?

You're becoming pathetic! How about you explaining why darkness that existed when God spoke His light into the darkness cannot possibly be metaphoric for evil/death? Then biblically explain why light that did not come from the sun created on day four does not metaphorically speak of the Light of God?

Can natural light only shine on the earth? What about starts that are not in the same galaxy as the earth? Is their light night natural since it doesn't shine on the earth? Can natural darkness only exist on the earth? You seem to think that natural light and natural darkness can't exist apart from the earth and that makes no sense.

Try to stick with the subject at hand. That is the darkness that existed at creation that God spoke light into. You're simply rambling here, seemingly desperately trying to fight against TRUTH. It is your doctrine that makes no sense.

I do not agree that natural darkness and light can only be things that are related to the sun, moon and earth. There are stars in galaxies very far from the earth that shine natural light. You seem to have this nonsensical idea that natural light and darkness can only exist in relation to the sun, moon and the earth.

More rambling!

Are you saying that you think that the light created on the first day is only referred to as symbolic day and the darkness on the first day is only referred to as symbolic night? Do you deny that God created the heavens and the earth in six literal days, including the first day when the light and darkness were divided into day and night?

More rambling with rabbit chasing added.

Perhaps the word metaphor is confusing you! Darkness existed before God spoke His Light into the darkness defining the darkness and light night and day. Why would darkness be referenced as night and light as day before day four when God created the sun and moon? Do you think it has something to do with evil/death working in the night, and ETERNAL life working in the day?

John 9:4-5 (KJV) I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.

John 11:9-10 (KJV) Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world. But if a man walk in the night, he stumbleth, because there is no light in him.

 

[WPM]

1 Corinthians 6:2: "Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
Know ye not that we shall judge angels?"

This passage distinguishes between believers and unbelievers. It also distinguishes between men and angels.

 

[rwb]

He and I have done that many times and you refuse to acknowledge what we show you from the Word of God. That's on you and is 100% your fault for being unteachable.


You have no idea of how you come across with your comments. Don't blame me for your inability to communicate clearly.


And that was clearly referring to physical light and darkness. He called the light day and the darkness night. This is very basic, elementary stuff that you are failing to understand. It's truly unbelievable.


Hello? Does that come across as metaphorical light and darkness to you?


How did metaphorical darkness turn into physical night? Huh? You just have no idea how nonsensical your comments are.


Hello?! Did I deny the existence of evil symbolized as darkness? No, I did not. Please stop making these kinds of foolish comments.


It's a wonder that you acknowledge that it was literal physical darkness over the literal physical land of Egypt.


All I was doing was proving that scripture does not only refer to darkness in a symbolic sense. You didn't seem to understand that. I guess maybe you do. Congratulations.


LOL. What?! He clearly was talking about creating physical light there. How can you deny this? That's why he called it the day in contrast to the night when things are physically dark. Goodness gracious.

He has written PLENTY to refute the beliefs you have promoted in this thread. It's very dishonest of you to act otherwise.

He doesn't want to get it. He has bought into the absurdity of this teaching. Hard to believe. It is so nonsensical and so unbiblical.

As usual nothing but opinions with nothing from the Word of God to prove what you allege! At least all who read here will know that you two clones of one another have a good many opinions, sadly with no help from the Word of God!

 

[rwb]

1 Corinthians 6:2: "Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
Know ye not that we shall judge angels?"

This passage distinguishes between believers and unbelievers. It also distinguishes between men and angels.

Do you not know the saints are judging the world NOW! Every time a saint faithfully proclaims the gospel of the Kingdom of God whoever hears is being judged through the Word. Because there is spiritual power in the Word of God, for those who hear and believes are judged worthy of eternal life, and those who hear and continue in unbelief are judged worthy of damnation/death.

Saints also judge HUMAN MESSENGERS of God by what is taught. Are they teaching truth or lies/errors? If truth, the saints who are the messengers of God will judge elders and shepherds worthy, if lies/errors the elders and shepherds will be judged unfaithful liars and deceivers.

Paul shows why it's important to raise up wise, noble, honorable, faithful God-fearing men to shepherd/overseer the flock of God. Because the saints are to be judges over any disputes we have among us, rather than taking these things before the ungodly of the world. It would be better for us to take our differences to those who are the least esteemed, i.e. have a Christ-like heart for serving, rather than look to the world of unbelief. Because Christ, before departing this world gave good gifts to His saints, "apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:" Saints should certainly be able to judge between themselves rather than seeking advice and judgement from the unbelieving world.

1 Corinthians 6:1-5 (KJV) Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?

Surely you do not believe that saints will be judges over angels of God that are spirits sent to minister to the heirs of salvation! What would we judge them for? Do you believe saints are going to judge Satan because you believe he and his demonic hosts are fallen angels of God? Will we become the judges, or does the Bible show us that God Himself is the JUDGE of the whole world through His Word and Spirit?

 

[WPM]

Do you not know the saints are judging the world NOW! Every time a saint faithfully proclaims the gospel of the Kingdom of God whoever hears is being judged through the Word. Because there is spiritual power in the Word of God, for those who hear and believes are judged worthy of eternal life, and those who hear and continue in unbelief are judged worthy of damnation/death.

Saints also judge HUMAN MESSENGERS of God by what is taught. Are they teaching truth or lies/errors? If truth, the saints who are the messengers of God will judge elders and shepherds worthy, if lies/errors the elders and shepherds will be judged unfaithful liars and deceivers.

Paul shows why it's important to raise up wise, noble, honorable, faithful God-fearing men to shepherd/overseer the flock of God. Because the saints are to be judges over any disputes we have among us, rather than taking these things before the ungodly of the world. It would be better for us to take our differences to those who are the least esteemed, i.e. have a Christ-like heart for serving, rather than look to the world of unbelief. Because Christ, before departing this world gave good gifts to His saints, "apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:" Saints should certainly be able to judge between themselves rather than seeking advice and judgement from the unbelieving world.

1 Corinthians 6:1-5 (KJV) Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?

Surely you do not believe that saints will be judges over angels of God that are spirits sent to minister to the heirs of salvation! What would we judge them for? Do you believe saints are going to judge Satan because you believe he and his demonic hosts are fallen angels of God? Will we become the judges, or does the Bible show us that God Himself is the JUDGE of the whole world through His Word and Spirit?

You spiritualize everything away because it exposes your teaching.

This is talking about the judgment. Human Christians will judge both the wicked and angels. Fact! Your constant battle is with Scripture.

 

[WPM]

Do you not know the saints are judging the world NOW! Every time a saint faithfully proclaims the gospel of the Kingdom of God whoever hears is being judged through the Word. Because there is spiritual power in the Word of God, for those who hear and believes are judged worthy of eternal life, and those who hear and continue in unbelief are judged worthy of damnation/death.

Saints also judge HUMAN MESSENGERS of God by what is taught. Are they teaching truth or lies/errors? If truth, the saints who are the messengers of God will judge elders and shepherds worthy, if lies/errors the elders and shepherds will be judged unfaithful liars and deceivers.

Paul shows why it's important to raise up wise, noble, honorable, faithful God-fearing men to shepherd/overseer the flock of God. Because the saints are to be judges over any disputes we have among us, rather than taking these things before the ungodly of the world. It would be better for us to take our differences to those who are the least esteemed, i.e. have a Christ-like heart for serving, rather than look to the world of unbelief. Because Christ, before departing this world gave good gifts to His saints, "apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:" Saints should certainly be able to judge between themselves rather than seeking advice and judgement from the unbelieving world.

1 Corinthians 6:1-5 (KJV) Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?

Surely you do not believe that saints will be judges over angels of God that are spirits sent to minister to the heirs of salvation! What would we judge them for? Do you believe saints are going to judge Satan because you believe he and his demonic hosts are fallen angels of God? Will we become the judges, or does the Bible show us that God Himself is the JUDGE of the whole world through His Word and Spirit?

1. Was the king of Tyrus an "anointed cherub" (Ezekiel 28:14&16)?
2. Was he at one time in the "Paradise of God" (Ezekiel 28:13)?
3. Did he protect "the holy mountain of God" (Ezekiel 28:14)?
4. Was he created "perfect" in his ways "from the day" he was "created" till "iniquity was found in" him (Ezekiel 28:15)?
5. Do you not believe in the total depravity of man any more?

 

[rwb]

You spiritualize everything away because it exposes your teaching.

This is talking about the judgment. Human Christians will judge both the wicked and angels. Fact! Your constant battle is with Scripture.

Why do you continue to argue through YOUR opinions? I've been very clear, your opinions without proving what you allege from the Bible mean nothing to me! If this opinion is FACT, show me the Scriptures, and allow me to discover for myself if what you say is indeed found in the Word of God.

 

[rwb]

1. Was the king of Tyrus an "anointed cherub" (Ezekiel 28:14&16)?
2. Was he at one time in the "Paradise of God" (Ezekiel 28:13)?
3. Did he protect "the holy mountain of God" (Ezekiel 28:14)?
4. Was he created "perfect" in his ways "from the day" he was "created" till "iniquity was found in" him (Ezekiel 28:15)?
5. Do you not believe in the total depravity of man any more?

Repeatedly parroting the same thing over and over again is your usual default when you cannot biblically refute the truths that are supported by the Word of God! Parroting does not change anything but makes you appear DESPERATE!

 

[WPM]

Why do you continue to argue through YOUR opinions? I've been very clear, your opinions without proving what you allege from the Bible mean nothing to me! If this opinion is FACT, show me the Scriptures, and allow me to discover for myself if what you say is indeed found in the Word of God.

LOL. I quoted Scripture and expounded it. You explain away every Scripture presented to in order for you to justify your error. You avoid multiple questions. You have to!

Your heresy is in tatters on this thread. The sad thing is you don't see it.

 

[WPM]

Repeatedly parroting the same thing over and over again is your usual default when you cannot biblically refute the truths that are supported by the Word of God! Parroting does not change anything but makes you appear DESPERATE!

You have to avoid these questions, because they absolutely demolish your thesis. You have been doing it the whole thread. You and TS have nothing to bring to the table.

I refer the reader back to evidence on every page on this thread.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

No, you most often do NOT! Instead, you usually give a nasty opinionated statement as if that proves what was said is error. You seldom refute what is said with the Word of God. I understand why, because it's hard to argue against truth.

That is an absolute lie and you know it. You should repent of your lying.

You're becoming pathetic!

That's a very meaningless comment coming from you considering some of the pathetic, unbiblical beliefs that you have.

How about you explaining why darkness that existed when God spoke His light into the darkness cannot possibly be metaphoric for evil/death?

I've already explained this and you act like I haven't. Do you just skim over what I say? Metaphorical light and darkness would not apply to the day and night of the first day as we can see is the case in Genesis 1. The onus is on you to explain how metaphorical light and darkness would apply to the dividing of the day and the night on the first day. Do you not understand that claiming that implies that you are claiming that the first day itself is metaphorical rather than being the first of six literal days that God created the heavens and the earth? Is that what you are intending to claim?

Then biblically explain why light that did not come from the sun created on day four does not metaphorically speak of the Light of God?

Do you think that the light that comes from other stars in this galaxy and other galaxies is not natural light? Why do you think that only light from the sun can be considered natural light and all other light has to be considered metaphorical?

Try to stick with the subject at hand. That is the darkness that existed at creation that God spoke light into. You're simply rambling here, seemingly desperately trying to fight against TRUTH. It is your doctrine that makes no sense.

LOL. Hilarious! I do not ramble. You just have no answers to my arguments, but can't admit it. You are far too prideful to understand the truth of these matters. If you would just humble yourself and become teachable then you would see the truth of the matter.

Perhaps the word metaphor is confusing you!

Nope. Another dumb comment from you. It seems that literal, natural things confuse you, though. Your mind is off in Metaphor Land with TribulationSigns. You guys need to join the rest of us in reality.

Darkness existed before God spoke His Light into the darkness defining the darkness and light night and day. Why would darkness be referenced as night and light as day before day four when God created the sun and moon?

Because there is natural light and natural darkness in other places besides the earth. How are you not aware of this? Do you deny that other stars besides the sun give off natural light?

Do you think it has something to do with evil/death working in the night, and ETERNAL life working in the day?

John 9:4-5 (KJV) I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.

John 11:9-10 (KJV) Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world. But if a man walk in the night, he stumbleth, because there is no light in him.

No, it has to do with God creating natural light and darkness in other places besides where the sun, moon and earth are located before day 4. Are you somehow forgetting or not aware that God created other galaxies and solar systems besides the one the sun, moon and earth are in?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

As usual nothing but opinions with nothing from the Word of God to prove what you allege!

This is just a blatant lie. We have made many arguments from the Word of God that you have completely ignored.

At least all who read here will know that you two clones of one another have a good many opinions, sadly with no help from the Word of God!

Show us where the Word of God teaches that the anointed cherub who protects the holy mountain of God and was created perfect in all his ways represents a fallen man or fallen humanity, as you claim. Since you're a self proclaimed expert on the Word of God, I'm sure you'll have no trouble showing us that.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Repeatedly parroting the same thing over and over again is your usual default when you cannot biblically refute the truths that are supported by the Word of God! Parroting does not change anything but makes you appear DESPERATE!

Are his questions too difficult for you? You seem to be offended by questions and by people wanting you to back up your claims with scripture for some reason. You seem to think that claiming things like saying that evil beings like Satan and his angels/demons are not fallen angels is a legitimate thing to claim despite the fact that everything God created was very good (Genesis 1:31). And that the anointed cherub who protects the holy mountain of God who was created perfect in all his ways somehow represents fallen man. With no proof whatsoever to back up that claim. But, somehow you are the one proclaiming truths supported by the Word of God?