The "sudden destruction" from which unbelievers "will not escape" on the day of the Lord will be caused by fire coming down on the earth.

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You said >>>>"""Paul was referring to both believers and unbelievers in Romans 14:10-12""
Rom 14:10.... for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
You believe we = believers and UNbelievers
In that case we in 2 Cor 5:6-10 must also include UNbelievers
>>>>You are really clever CeeCee:woohoo!::woohoo!::woohoo!:<<<<<<
2 Cor 5:6-10

6Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
7(For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
8We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
9Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.
10For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
Yes, he was saying he and all believers will appearing before the judgment seat of Christ, but he also referenced an Old Testament passage (Isaiah 45:22-24) which shows unbelievers also bowing before Him. So, it's your opinion that when Paul references an Old Testament passage, that should just be ignored? You have no idea of how to study scripture. You only look at the surface and are too lazy to dig deeper for the truth. Also, Matthew 25:31-46 makes it very clear that unbelievers will be appearing before His judgment seat as well. What do you think, that His throne and judgment seat are two different things? LOL. No. Your doctrinal bias clouds your vision.

Do you deny that unbelievers will bow before Jesus Christ and confess that He is Lord?
 

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If I had sinned in such away, and bowed my head to the Lord, seeking His forgiveness, I can expect His forgiveness by my repentance.
LOL. You are not addressing what the text actually says. It says everyone will give an account of themselves while bowing before Christ at His judgment seat. When have you done that? You haven't. Why are you so willing to butcher the text to make it say what you want it to say?
 

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>>>>"Also, do you deny that the goats in Matthew 25:31-46 are unbelievers?
At least you got that part right
Now all you have to do is accept that the WE in Rom 14:10 is ONLY believers
I do accept that, but that does not mean that Paul was saying that only believers will stand before the judgment seat of Christ. You are AFRAID to address the fact that he also referenced an Old Testament passage which indicates that unbelievers also will be bowing before Christ.

Romans 14:10 But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 11 For it is written: “As I live, says the Lord, Every knee shall bow to Me, And every tongue shall confess to God.” 12 So then each of us shall give account of himself to God.

Paul referenced the following passage in verse 11 which you ignore...

Isaiah 45:22 “Look to Me, and be saved, All you ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other. 23 I have sworn by Myself; The word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness, And shall not return, That to Me every knee shall bow, Every tongue shall take an oath. 24 He shall say, ‘Surely in the Lord I have righteousness and strength. To Him men shall come, And all shall be ashamed Who are incensed against Him.

As you can see here, if you don't ignore it, is that even those "who are incensed against Him" will be bowing before Christ and giving an account of themselves. If you actually thought this all through, you would realize that the believers Paul was writing to could have easily assumed that they would not have to appear before the judgment seat of Christ because it would be easy to assume that only unbelievers would be judged. Paul wanted to correct that kind of thinking by referencing Isaiah 45:22-24 which says that all people will be bowing before Christ including all believers and all unbelievers.

Are you too prideful to take into account the passage that Paul referenced in verse 11? Why would you ignore a passage that helps show the context of what Paul was talking about? That shows that you just believe what you want to believe rather than what the text actually indicates. All you look at is that Paul said "we" in reference to believers while ignoring his reference to an OT passage that says both believers and unbelievers will be bowing before Christ.

Hopefully 2 Cor 5:5-10 clears up your UNBELIEVER = WE error
2 Cor 5:6-10
6Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
7(For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
8We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
9Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.
10For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
Paul telling believers that they will all stand before the judgment seat of Christ does not mean that unbelievers will not also stand before the judgment seat of Christ. He made it clear that all people will stand before the judgment seat of Christ by referencing Isaiah 45:22-24 in Romans 14:11. Why do you ignore that? Paul never said that only believers will stand before the judgment seat of Christ or that unbelievers will not stand before the judgment seat of Christ. Can you acknowledge that? Both Romans 14:11, which references Isaiah 45:22-24, and Matthew 25:31-46 make it very clear that unbelievers will be appearing before the judgment seat of Christ. You choose to ignore Isaiah 45:22-24 and try to twist Matthew 25:31-46 to fit your beliefs. That is unacceptable.
 

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@rvmb and @Spiritual Israelite

There will be two separations occurring at the end of the seventh day/age. Ezekiel 34 provides this insight.

Ezekiel 34: 17: - 17 'And as for you, O My flock, thus says the Lord God:
"Behold, I shall judge between sheep and sheep,
between rams and he goats.

It is my understanding that God will separate the flock/sheep into two groups with the first group who call God "Lord, Lord," from the second group in the flock of sheep who do not call God, "Lord, Lord."

Jesus addressed this in the parable of the Separation of the Nation, which is also referenced as the Separation of the Sheep from the Goat. It should be remembered that both the Sheep and the Goats in this second separation called God "Lord, Lord."

What was the difference?

The Sheep had a heart after God's heart and ministered to the people around them without regard for any recompense. In other words, they lifted others up to bless them

The Goats on the other hand only had a heart after their own well-being and being judged as righteous by their actions. In their mind they would only minister unto the "people in need" if it was the Lord that they were ministering too. In other words, they only wanted to lift themselves up to be blessed.

The Sheep were judged as righteous and were invited into God's presence while the Goat were not deemed as righteous and were dispatched into the Lake of Fire.

In the second separation, in Ezekiel 34:17, there was no separation of the people into the "good" and "bad" people groupings. The second separation was based on the hearts of the people in the two groupings. The Sheep, i.e. the righteous, had a heart after the Lord's heart for people, while the Goat, i.e. the unrighteous, only had a heart after their own "well-being" when seek their supposed inheritance.

Shalom
 

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@rvmb and @Spiritual Israelite

There will be two separations occurring at the end of the seventh day/age.
There is no seventh day/age, so there's no point in taking you seriously about this. Your beliefs come from your imagination. Scripture never references a seventh day/age. You have your beliefs all to yourself.

Ezekiel 34 provides this insight.

Ezekiel 34: 17: - 17 'And as for you, O My flock, thus says the Lord God:
"Behold, I shall judge between sheep and sheep,
between rams and he goats.

It is my understanding that God will separate the flock/sheep into two groups with the first group who call God "Lord, Lord," from the second group in the flock of sheep who do not call God, "Lord, Lord."

Jesus addressed this in the parable of the Separation of the Nation, which is also referenced as the Separation of the Sheep from the Goat. It should be remembered that both the Sheep and the Goats in this second separation called God "Lord, Lord."

What was the difference?

The Sheep had a heart after God's heart and ministered to the people around them without regard for any recompense. In other words, they lifted others up to bless them

The Goats on the other hand only had a heart after their own well-being and being judged as righteous by their actions. In their mind they would only minister unto the "people in need" if it was the Lord that they were ministering too. In other words, they only wanted to lift themselves up to be blessed.

The Sheep were judged as righteous and were invited into God's presence while the Goat were not deemed as righteous and were dispatched into the Lake of Fire.

In the second separation, in Ezekiel 34:17, there was no separation of the people into the "good" and "bad" people groupings. The second separation was based on the hearts of the people in the two groupings. The Sheep, i.e. the righteous, had a heart after the Lord's heart for people, while the Goat, i.e. the unrighteous, only had a heart after their own "well-being" when seek their supposed inheritance.

Shalom
The sheep represent those who belong to Jesus (John 10) and have their names written in the book of life while the goats represent those whose names are not written in the book of life. Matthew 25:41 references the exact same thing as Revelation 20:15.
 

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There is no seventh day/age, so there's no point in taking you seriously about this. Your beliefs come from your imagination. Scripture never references a seventh day/age. You have your beliefs all to yourself.

That is only your opinion. Just because you do not have the ability to see and hear and come to the same understand of God's word does not mean that, what I have posted, is invalid.

The sheep represent those who belong to Jesus (John 10) and have their names written in the book of life while the goats represent those whose names are not written in the book of life. Matthew 25:41 references the exact same thing as Revelation 20:15.

Matthew 25:41-46: - 41 "Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43 I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.'
44 "Then they also will answer Him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?' 45 Then He will answer them, saying, 'Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.' 46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."​

Revelation 10:15: - 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.​

Being judged "Righteous" is very dependent on the attitude of our heart as Jesus explained in the parable of the Separation of the Nations.

Whether or not my posts should be accepted or rejected is really up the reader to decide.

The readers will also decide whether or not your pointed rebuttal should be accepted or rejected.

I can only present what the Lord has put on my heart.
 

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That is only your opinion. Just because you do not have the ability to see and hear and come to the same understand of God's word does not mean that, what I have posted, is invalid.
There is nothing in all of scripture that references a seventh age. So, I can only assume you are just making that up.

Matthew 25:41-46: - 41 "Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43 I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.'
44 "Then they also will answer Him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?' 45 Then He will answer them, saying, 'Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.' 46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."​


Revelation 10:15: - 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.​

Being judged "Righteous" is very dependent on the attitude of our heart as Jesus explained in the parable of the Separation of the Nations.

Whether or not my posts should be accepted or rejected is really up the reader to decide.

The readers will also decide whether or not your pointed rebuttal should be accepted or rejected.

I can only present what the Lord has put on my heart.
You mean what you think the Lord has put on your heart. I would obviously disagree that He put what you present on your heart. But, yes, let the readers decide who is right or if everyone is wrong. I certainly would encourage everyone here to be like the Bereans and study these things for themselves to see if what we say about these things is true or not.
 

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There is nothing in all of scripture that references a seventh age. So, I can only assume you are just making that up.

Well then when with Rev 20:11-15 occur in time. Do you know the approximate time when the GWTR judgement will occur? How many years from now?

In Isaiah 58, God tells the Israelite to keep His Sabbath Day of the Lord Holy. What timespan was God referencing for the Israelites?

But since you have made this conversation irrelevant between us, have a great day.
 

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Well then when with Rev 20:11-15 occur in time. Do you know the approximate time when the GWTR judgement will occur? How many years from now?
No one knows that.

In Isaiah 58, God tells the Israelite to keep His Sabbath Day of the Lord Holy. What timespan was God referencing for the Israelites?
That refers to a 24 hour day, not an age. Is this all you have to support your belief? If so, then you have nothing as far as I'm concerned.

But since you have made this conversation irrelevant between us, have a great day.
You are the one who makes it irrelevant by making things up that aren't taught anywhere in scripture. Certainly, a verse referencing the Sabbath day has nothing to do with a seventh age of human history.
 

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No one knows that.
But we can know the approximate time if we have undesranding.
That refers to a 24 hour day, not an age. Is this all you have to support your belief? If so, then you have nothing as far as I'm concerned.
Are you really sure? How long was God's Sabbath after the first six timeframes of His Creation?
You are the one who makes it irrelevant by making things up that aren't taught anywhere in scripture. Certainly, a verse referencing the Sabbath day has nothing to do with a seventh age of human history.

How do you know that I am making things up? You have just joined yourself to the other knockers on this forum because you have no depth in your understanding of the Scripture to be able to argue against what I have posted.

Have a good day now.
 
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Yes, he was saying he and all believers will appearing before the judgment seat of Christ, but he also referenced an Old Testament passage (Isaiah 45:22-24) which shows unbelievers also bowing before Him. So, it's your opinion that when Paul references an Old Testament passage, that should just be ignored? You have no idea of how to study scripture. You only look at the surface and are too lazy to dig deeper for the truth. Also, Matthew 25:31-46 makes it very clear that unbelievers will be appearing before His judgment seat as well. What do you think, that His throne and judgment seat are two different things? LOL. No. Your doctrinal bias clouds your vision.

Do you deny that unbelievers will bow before Jesus Christ and confess that He is Lord?
>>>>>""Yes, he was saying he and all believers will appearing before the judgment seat of Christ,
Agreed.joy:
Unbelievers are NOT mentioned or implied in the Rom 14:10, 1 Cor 3:1-15, 2 Cor 5:6-10 judgement
**
Rom 14:11-12 Christ states that EVERYONE (saved & lost) will bow, confess, give account at a judgement.
Rom 14:10, 2 Cor 5:6-10 judgement only for those saved by the 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13 Gospel
**
Matt - goats/sheep, Great White Throne, etc applies to those NOT judged at Rom 14:10, 2 Cor 5:6-10, 1 Cor 3:10-15.
 

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I do accept that, but that does not mean that Paul was saying that only believers will stand before the judgment seat of Christ. You are AFRAID to address the fact that he also referenced an Old Testament passage which indicates that unbelievers also will be bowing before Christ.

Romans 14:10 But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 11 For it is written: “As I live, says the Lord, Every knee shall bow to Me, And every tongue shall confess to God.” 12 So then each of us shall give account of himself to God.

Paul referenced the following passage in verse 11 which you ignore...

Isaiah 45:22 “Look to Me, and be saved, All you ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other. 23 I have sworn by Myself; The word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness, And shall not return, That to Me every knee shall bow, Every tongue shall take an oath. 24 He shall say, ‘Surely in the Lord I have righteousness and strength. To Him men shall come, And all shall be ashamed Who are incensed against Him.

As you can see here, if you don't ignore it, is that even those "who are incensed against Him" will be bowing before Christ and giving an account of themselves. If you actually thought this all through, you would realize that the believers Paul was writing to could have easily assumed that they would not have to appear before the judgment seat of Christ because it would be easy to assume that only unbelievers would be judged. Paul wanted to correct that kind of thinking by referencing Isaiah 45:22-24 which says that all people will be bowing before Christ including all believers and all unbelievers.

Are you too prideful to take into account the passage that Paul referenced in verse 11? Why would you ignore a passage that helps show the context of what Paul was talking about? That shows that you just believe what you want to believe rather than what the text actually indicates. All you look at is that Paul said "we" in reference to believers while ignoring his reference to an OT passage that says both believers and unbelievers will be bowing before Christ.


Paul telling believers that they will all stand before the judgment seat of Christ does not mean that unbelievers will not also stand before the judgment seat of Christ. He made it clear that all people will stand before the judgment seat of Christ by referencing Isaiah 45:22-24 in Romans 14:11. Why do you ignore that? Paul never said that only believers will stand before the judgment seat of Christ or that unbelievers will not stand before the judgment seat of Christ. Can you acknowledge that? Both Romans 14:11, which references Isaiah 45:22-24, and Matthew 25:31-46 make it very clear that unbelievers will be appearing before the judgment seat of Christ. You choose to ignore Isaiah 45:22-24 and try to twist Matthew 25:31-46 to fit your beliefs. That is unacceptable.
>>>""I do accept that, but that does not mean that Paul was saying that only believers will stand before the judgment seat of Christ
>>>>>""Yes, he was saying he and all believers will appearing before the judgment seat of Christ,
Agreed joy:
Unbelievers are NOT mentioned or implied in the Rom 14:10, 1 Cor 3:1-15, 2 Cor 5:6-10 judgement
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Rom 14:11-12 Christ states that EVERYONE (saved & lost) will bow, confess, give account at a judgement.
Rom 14:10, 2 Cor 5:6-10 THE judgement only for those saved by the 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13 Gospel
**
Matt - goats/sheep, Great White Throne, etc applies to those NOT judged at Rom 14:10, 2 Cor 5:6-10, 1 Cor 3:10-15.
 

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>>>>>""Yes, he was saying he and all believers will appearing before the judgment seat of Christ,
Agreed.joy:
Unbelievers are NOT mentioned or implied in the Rom 14:10, 1 Cor 3:1-15, 2 Cor 5:6-10 judgement
**
Rom 14:11-12 Christ states that EVERYONE (saved & lost) will bow, confess, give account at a judgement.
Rom 14:10, 2 Cor 5:6-10 judgement only for those saved by the 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13 Gospel
**
Matt - goats/sheep, Great White Throne, etc applies to those NOT judged at Rom 14:10, 2 Cor 5:6-10, 1 Cor 3:10-15.
So, you are afraid to address what it says in the passage that Paul referenced in Romans 14:11 then (Isaiah 45:22-24)? Do you deny that unbelievers will bow before Christ to confess that He is Lord? Looks like context means nothing to you. You obviously just believe what you want to believe. Matthew 25:31-46 makes it very clear that unbelievers will be appearing before His judgment seat/throne as well. But, you'd rather just cherry pick scripture then look at scripture as a whole to form your conclusions.
 

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>>>""I do accept that, but that does not mean that Paul was saying that only believers will stand before the judgment seat of Christ
>>>>>""Yes, he was saying he and all believers will appearing before the judgment seat of Christ,
Agreed joy:
Unbelievers are NOT mentioned or implied in the Rom 14:10, 1 Cor 3:1-15, 2 Cor 5:6-10 judgement
**
Rom 14:11-12 Christ states that EVERYONE (saved & lost) will bow, confess, give account at a judgement.
Rom 14:10, 2 Cor 5:6-10 THE judgement only for those saved by the 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13 Gospel
**
Matt - goats/sheep, Great White Throne, etc applies to those NOT judged at Rom 14:10, 2 Cor 5:6-10, 1 Cor 3:10-15.
Are unbelievers referenced in the passage that Paul quotes in Romans 14:11 in relation to what he said in Romans 14:10-12? Answer this question if you want to be taken seriously, otherwise I have to conclude that you're just an non-serious person playing games.

Romans 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. 12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

Where is it written "As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God."? Here...

Isaiah 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. 23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
24 Surely, shall one say, in the Lord have I righteousness and strength: even to him shall men come; and all that are incensed against him shall be ashamed.


Are "all that are incensed against him" unbelievers? Clearly. So, this shows that unbelievers will bow before the judgment seat of Christ as well. If you are honest and willing to look at this objectively, then you will address this. Otherwise, if you just want to believe what you want to believe, then you won't.

And, again, Matthew 25:31-46 makes it quite clear that unbelievers will stand before the judgment seat/throne of Jesus as well. So, just keep denying the truth if you want, but it makes you look very bad and very dishonest.
 

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LOL. You are not addressing what the text actually says. It says everyone will give an account of themselves while bowing before Christ at His judgment seat. When have you done that? You haven't. Why are you so willing to butcher the text to make it say what you want it to say?
Lol. As a professing Amillennial believer, you should be able to understand the spiritual aspect of what I am saying (post #235, 248, 254) in regards to the Judgment Seat of Christ being now.
Hebrews 3:1
Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;
Hebrews 4:14
Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.

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Jesus is ONLY the high priest to those who shall be and are born again of God's Holy Spirit.
So then, as for the "tares", in the parable of the "Wheat and Tares" (Mat. 13:30), Mat. 7:23; Rom. 8:9, Luke 17:28-30 and 2 Thes. 1:7-9 will be applicable to them.
 
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Lol. As a professing Amillennial believer, you should be able to understand the spiritual aspect of what I am saying (post #235, 248, 254) in regards to the Judgment Seat of Christ
LOL. Amillennialists obviously do not understand everything the same, so that is a silly comment, at best. You continue to not specifically address my arguments because you are apparently afraid to do so. Tell me when you appeared before the judgment seat of Christ, bowed before Him and gave an account of yourself. What did you say when you gave an account of yourself?

Romans 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. 12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
 

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LOL. Amillennialists obviously do not understand everything the same, so that is a silly comment, at best. You continue to not specifically address my arguments because you are apparently afraid to do so. Tell me when you appeared before the judgment seat of Christ, bowed before Him and gave an account of yourself. What did you say when you gave an account of yourself?

Romans 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. 12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
In the year of 1976 I repented (bowed) before God, through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Thirty days later, while I was in prayer in my bedroom, I literally witnessed and received God's Holy Spirit entering into me.
Since that day, He has given me "His peace that passes all understanding".
Ever since then, I have been "boldly" coming (bowing) before the Judgment Seat of Christ, aka the Throne of Grace

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Hebrews 4:16
Let us [born again Christians] therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

1 John 2
2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world [when they come to repentance].
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

All the unsaved, who refuse to repent towards God through faith in Jesus, including the tares, cannot come (or "appear") before the Judgment Seat of Christ (Throne of Grace-Heb. 4:16). ONLY we who ARE the saved can do so.
 
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LOL. Are you for real?


Try to learn how to read and not make assumptions and then you won't embarrass yourself by misrepresenting what others believe.
In this format of communication, it's difficult to assume anything of one's attitudes or emotions. Lighten up, and everyone will do so in turn towards you?
 

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In the year of 1976 I repented (bowed) before God, through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Thirty days later, while I was in prayer in my bedroom, I literally witnessed and received God's Holy Spirit entering into me.
Since that day, He has given me "His peace that passes all understanding".
Ever since then, I have been "boldly" coming (bowing) before the Judgment Seat of Christ.

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Hebrews 4:16
Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

1 John 2
2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
You are taking Romans 14:10-12 completely out of context. Paul did not indicate that appearing before the judgment seat of Christ is something that anyone had yet done, but was only something that would happen in the future. He did not indicate at all that he himself had already appeared and was continuing to appear before the judgment seat of Christ in the sense that you are talking about. He talked about it as a future event, just as Jesus did in Matthew 25:31-46.
 

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You are taking Romans 14:10-12 completely out of context. Paul did not indicate that appearing before the judgment seat of Christ is something that anyone had yet done, but was only something that would happen in the future. He did not indicate at all that he himself had already appeared and was continuing to appear before the judgment seat of Christ in the sense that you are talking about. He talked about it as a future event, just as Jesus did in Matthew 25:31-46.
I can understand the ignorance of Pre and Post Millennialists, however
of all people, you as an Amillenialist, you should easily understand what is being performed for us born again Christians during this figurative 1000 years of God's grace.
 
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