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Was the t.r.u.m.p wrong?

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Triumph1300

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POPE LEO is as bad as trump
Of course.
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But the point is that Trump did not tell the truth.
(The Pope never said he wants Iran to have nuclear weapons.
Trump lied as usual)
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In all fairness, Donald J. Trump is creating a useful and lasting legacy after all.
Something that will be invaluable for future generations.
He is demonstrating daily what not to do.

As painful as it is for us to endure, Trump is showing future generations what happens when you are not a global leader.
When you lie and deceive people and your word can not be trusted.
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When I heard Mr Trump cheering on the Iranian protesters, I immediately thought of Trump's induced January 6th, 2021 riot in Washington DC.

Same old dog. Same old tricks.
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Have a great day.
 
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Who is declaring that you're sent to declare or correct? Yourself? Why are you tooting your own horn? If God has sent you to to declare and correct, then so so without lifting up yourself above others. If God is behind the message you give, HE will prosper and emphasize it.
Paul wrote of me, and John, and before them Daniel.

But your idea of "If God is behind the message...He will prosper and emphasize it" is not always true and more likely not. More likely messages from God through those He sends is rejected, or not understood or taken to account, even for hundreds or thousands of years, and the messenger is most often ridiculed or even killed. But even so, the message stands as true regardless while people and many generations live their whole lives perhaps never to fully know the truth until after they die and are in the presence of God. For this reason He Himself declares--"new things I declare; Before they spring forth I tell you of them.”

As for "tooting" my own horn, surely you have read the many passages that one sent by God has declared of themself, saying such things as "The hand of the Lord came upon Me."
 
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Just two days after flooding his feed with 13 victory posts claiming Iran surrendered and the war was over, Trump is back to threatening to bomb power plants and bridges.
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I am wondering how this will help the Iranian people?

This is Trump's way of saying to the Iranians "Help Is On The Way."
 
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"The hand of the Lord came upon Me."
Yes I am sure people have heard a lot of that.
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The guy in the White House said it and many false prophets, connected to mega prosperity churches, Paula White is just one of them.

But in the end people will know them by their fruits.
Turn on your TV and roughly about 90% are in this group.
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Just two days after flooding his feed with 13 victory posts claiming Iran surrendered and the war was over, Trump is back to threatening to bomb power plants and bridges.
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I am wondering how this will help the Iranian people?

This is Trump's way of saying to the Iranians "Help Is On The Way."
What is your way of helping the people of Iran from the oppressive Islamic regime?

Odo Amoris (aka America First) makes one peoples concern about another only a thing when the other is threatening. And I don't mean on an individual basis. I mean when a people as a whole are represented by their government's action. For instance, in WWII, the people of Canada fought against the people of Germany - even if individual Canadians didn't.

Have you ever listened to JFK's speech on the Cuban missile crisis? He brilliantly talked to the people of Cuba, saying these weapons don't help you, they only hurt you. It is generally not charity that one people help another but self interest. Sure, there are exceptions, like in natural disasters. But the general rule remains. In the summer of 1945, the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki may not have directly waged war against Canada and the Allied powers but that does not change the fact that the people of Canada and the Allies properly acted in their own interest first.

You, in your TDS, seem to forget this.
 

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You should have told us sooner that y o u were send by God.
You sound like that David Karesh fellow in Waco Texas years ago.

Pretty dangerous statement.
Used by cult leaders.
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I hope you are not one of them.
I sat under one such "pastor" of a non-denominational Christian "old time Pentecostal" church for 13 years after I was married.

Once I began to work through the trauma (at God's leading/no therapist or counselor in the picture) ....God began to open up my past and led me to awareness that my pastor was actually one of my handlers even going back to my childhood. I thought I had only met him at age 20/21 when at a church with my husband. But I couldn't shake the feeling of "yuck", intimidation, and trepidation I had around him. And a couple of years later, when my husband moved me across states to be part of his church/community, it was much worse. It triggered memories of this man and his son at military bases with me as a child. I pushed those flashes of memory away and told myself they were lies, but they kept coming. It made no sense to me until I finally gave in to God's prompting to journal my past going back as far as I could remember, and just write. That opened things up and the memories started to flood back... of the whole network involving people in elite political and religious positions.

Anyway ...being in that religious community where over 95% of the members lived on church (pastor's) property ...it was oppression. You always had this feeling that if you didn't obey, didn't believe and go along with everything he said or preached, or if you visited a different church, or went on a vacation or a trip to see family without informing him or getting his approval ....you were sinning ...because he was a "prophet" ... "God's apostle" ..."an apostle to the apostles" with special "angels" to do his bidding. God might strike you dead if you even spoke of something you disagreed with ....like the secret monthly meetings that only males from 13 and up could attend ....or teaching that you have to break a child's spirit from the time they're born so they don't rule you. So it was praised when a mother or father taught their infants not to even whimper in a 3 hour church service ...by pinching them when they cried or whimpered and carrying them out to spank them (even if it left bruises). Mind you, pinching and spanking infants as young as 2 or 3 months old was praised. I didn't do that, because I valued my God-given role as a mother to answer the cries of my babies like God does for His children.

Because of my "failure" in that area, I was looked down on. I was a bad mother. But it was all part of the cult tactics, dynamics, and manipulation to keep me in a state of always feeling like I couldn't measure up and be good enough. When my memories began to open up, I began to be openly (yet covertly) threatened... they'd let me know they knew what I was doing, who I talked to, that I was disapproved of by them and by "God" ...and I was followed, harassed in person and online, physically hurt. And my husband received a threat from the pulpit ... "Brother **** is afraid that he will come home from work one day to find his family has burned up in a house fire." I looked at my husband questioningly, knowing this was a threat. He said he'd never voiced anything of the sort. But ...the local fire department was started by our pastor and most of the "volunteers" were church members.

When I finally was able to leave the church ... although we still lived within a mile of the compound .... Mother's Day of 2007 ...it got worse, my husband became an angry and fearful person ...and on Mother's Day of 2009, my children and I were abducted, drugged, and s.xually assaulted/tortured inside our barn while my husband was away at work (yes, on Mother's Day).

My husband also was accessed and threatened. He came home in a state of mind that had him nearly incoherent. He couldn't remember where he'd been for 2 hours after he got off work.

After the assaults in the barn, our barn was arsoned ....of course. And guess who showed up to fight the fire (gloat)?

Anyway ....I know all too well how the cult lifts up their leader/s and you can't challenge them bc if you do "god" will get you.
 
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Just two days after flooding his feed with 13 victory posts claiming Iran surrendered and the war was over, Trump is back to threatening to bomb power plants and bridges.
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I am wondering how this will help the Iranian people?

This is Trump's way of saying to the Iranians "Help Is On The Way."
This is heartbreaking ... murders, genocides and the horrible deliberate mistreating and starvation of our own troops who never should've been forced into this illegal and unjust war. :(
 
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Anyway ....I know all too well how the cult lifts up their leader/s and you can't challenge them bc if you do "god" will get you.
Oh, and they use all the right scripture verses to reinforce their mind control.

Hebrews 10:25
“Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.”

1 Chronicles 16:22
“Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.”

Psalm 105:15
“Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.”



It keeps their victims coming back, and so fearful of displeasing "God" that they stay and keep trying to measure up and do better ....all while inside there's such conflict because the one true God is speaking to their hearts that something is amiss, and if they listen to His Holy Spirit, they'll know the scriptures have been twisted to mean what God didn't say.

This is what is considered "a cult within THE cult." They have these branches and groups set up to handle those who are born into the cult, especially by multigenerational bloodline under MK/governmental trauma based mind control programs. They have a tiered system of controls.
 
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Have you ever listened to JFK's speech on the Cuban missile crisis?
Don't compare JFK with Donald Trump.
That's totally absurd.
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Bombing Bridges, Hospitals and Schools is sickening.
It does not help people.
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Amazing how brainwashed about 30% of Americans still are.
The worst is that there is still a small Christian war mongering group amongst the 30%.
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And of course there are the ones saying "God Told Me".
As if they are saying "Shut Up this is God's Will....He told me."

They are on this forum.

That's even more sickening.
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I sat under one such "pastor" of a non-denominational Christian "old time Pentecostal" church for 13 years after I was married.

Once I began to work through the trauma (at God's leading/no therapist or counselor in the picture) ....God began to open up my past and led me to awareness that my pastor was actually one of my handlers even going back to my childhood. I thought I had only met him at age 20/21 when at a church with my husband. But I couldn't shake the feeling of "yuck", intimidation, and trepidation I had around him. And a couple of years later, when my husband moved me across states to be part of his church/community, it was much worse. It triggered memories of this man and his son at military bases with me as a child. I pushed those flashes of memory away and told myself they were lies, but they kept coming. It made no sense to me until I finally gave in to God's prompting to journal my past going back as far as I could remember, and just write. That opened things up and the memories started to flood back... of the whole network involving people in elite political and religious positions.

Anyway ...being in that religious community where over 95% of the members lived on church (pastor's) property ...it was oppression. You always had this feeling that if you didn't obey, didn't believe and go along with everything he said or preached, or if you visited a different church, or went on a vacation or a trip to see family without informing him or getting his approval ....you were sinning ...because he was a "prophet" ... "God's apostle" ..."an apostle to the apostles" with special "angels" to do his bidding. God might strike you dead if you even spoke of something you disagreed with ....like the secret monthly meetings that only males from 13 and up could attend ....or teaching that you have to break a child's spirit from the time they're born so they don't rule you. So it was praised when a mother or father taught their infants not to even whimper in a 3 hour church service ...by pinching them when they cried or whimpered and carrying them out to spank them (even if it left bruises). Mind you, pinching and spanking infants as young as 2 or 3 months old was praised. I didn't do that, because I valued my God-given role as a mother to answer the cries of my babies like God does for His children.

Because of my "failure" in that area, I was looked down on. I was a bad mother. But it was all part of the cult tactics, dynamics, and manipulation to keep me in a state of always feeling like I couldn't measure up and be good enough. When my memories began to open up, I began to be openly (yet covertly) threatened... they'd let me know they knew what I was doing, who I talked to, that I was disapproved of by them and by "God" ...and I was followed, harassed in person and online, physically hurt. And my husband received a threat from the pulpit ... "Brother **** is afraid that he will come home from work one day to find his family has burned up in a house fire." I looked at my husband questioningly, knowing this was a threat. He said he'd never voiced anything of the sort. But ...the local fire department was started by our pastor and most of the "volunteers" were church members.

When I finally was able to leave the church ... although we still lived within a mile of the compound .... Mother's Day of 2007 ...it got worse, my husband became an angry and fearful person ...and on Mother's Day of 2009, my children and I were abducted, drugged, and s.xually assaulted/tortured inside our barn while my husband was away at work (yes, on Mother's Day).

My husband also was accessed and threatened. He came home in a state of mind that had him nearly incoherent. He couldn't remember where he'd been for 2 hours after he got off work.

After the assaults in the barn, our barn was arsoned ....of course. And guess who showed up to fight the fire (gloat)?

Anyway ....I know all too well how the cult lifts up their leader/s and you can't challenge them bc if you do "god" will get you.

I am soooooooooooooo sorry you had to experience that :(
 

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Not that I am a Harris and all the rest supporter.
But yes, you are correct.
Hate only is applied when one is against the Trump regime.
HATE is only applied BY THE TRUMP REALM when one is against trump .
JUST LIKE hate , racism and any other phobia is used against any who opposes their folk .
IN OTHER WORDS , THE DEVIL has them both duped . BUT it is why it was written
CURSED IS THE MAN WHOSE HOPE be in man . cause the left hopes in man and the right hopes in man .
OOOPSY both DUPED too .
 

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You should have told us sooner that y o u were send by God.
You sound like that David Karesh fellow in Waco Texas years ago.
Pretty dangerous statement.
Used by cult leaders.
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I hope you are not one of them.
That is a little but nice concession--thank you!

I have made no secret of my relationship with God, my confession and testimony. In fact I have given my testimony here many times, and referred to it even more times.

I understand the danger. But there is another danger also--that of persecuting the messenger and missing the message.

As for the fakes, it is they who "sound like" those who are truly sent by God. They are only getting away with a short-lived lie and charade. But, no, I am not one of them.
 

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Yes I am sure people have heard a lot of that.
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The guy in the White House said it and many false prophets, connected to mega prosperity churches, Paula White is just one of them.

But in the end people will know them by their fruits.
Turn on your TV and roughly about 90% are in this group.
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Indeed, the false mimic the true sent by God. And they are so good at it that things are not what they seem...of course it helps to own the media and the greater percent of Congress, Hollywood, the education system, etc. But they're almost finished--the gig is up. I suspect you won't be posting the same old song and dance when it is all revealed.
 

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Just two days after flooding his feed with 13 victory posts claiming Iran surrendered and the war was over, Trump is back to threatening to bomb power plants and bridges.
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I am wondering how this will help the Iranian people?

This is Trump's way of saying to the Iranians "Help Is On The Way."
God sacrificed His only Son to defeat evil. Every such action is tragic and death is the order from beginning to the end--but God will see to the people of every nation. If one weeps for them--that is understandable. But if one stands against what is against evil, as Peter was prepared to do to stop Jesus from being killed--they are siding with Satan (as Jesus said when Peter simply wanted to do what he "thought" was good--"Satan get behind Me!"). Peter was wrong.

Careful not to try to help like Peter did.
 

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I sat under one such "pastor" of a non-denominational Christian "old time Pentecostal" church for 13 years after I was married.

Once I began to work through the trauma (at God's leading/no therapist or counselor in the picture) ....God began to open up my past and led me to awareness that my pastor was actually one of my handlers even going back to my childhood. I thought I had only met him at age 20/21 when at a church with my husband. But I couldn't shake the feeling of "yuck", intimidation, and trepidation I had around him. And a couple of years later, when my husband moved me across states to be part of his church/community, it was much worse. It triggered memories of this man and his son at military bases with me as a child. I pushed those flashes of memory away and told myself they were lies, but they kept coming. It made no sense to me until I finally gave in to God's prompting to journal my past going back as far as I could remember, and just write. That opened things up and the memories started to flood back... of the whole network involving people in elite political and religious positions.

Anyway ...being in that religious community where over 95% of the members lived on church (pastor's) property ...it was oppression. You always had this feeling that if you didn't obey, didn't believe and go along with everything he said or preached, or if you visited a different church, or went on a vacation or a trip to see family without informing him or getting his approval ....you were sinning ...because he was a "prophet" ... "God's apostle" ..."an apostle to the apostles" with special "angels" to do his bidding. God might strike you dead if you even spoke of something you disagreed with ....like the secret monthly meetings that only males from 13 and up could attend ....or teaching that you have to break a child's spirit from the time they're born so they don't rule you. So it was praised when a mother or father taught their infants not to even whimper in a 3 hour church service ...by pinching them when they cried or whimpered and carrying them out to spank them (even if it left bruises). Mind you, pinching and spanking infants as young as 2 or 3 months old was praised. I didn't do that, because I valued my God-given role as a mother to answer the cries of my babies like God does for His children.

Because of my "failure" in that area, I was looked down on. I was a bad mother. But it was all part of the cult tactics, dynamics, and manipulation to keep me in a state of always feeling like I couldn't measure up and be good enough. When my memories began to open up, I began to be openly (yet covertly) threatened... they'd let me know they knew what I was doing, who I talked to, that I was disapproved of by them and by "God" ...and I was followed, harassed in person and online, physically hurt. And my husband received a threat from the pulpit ... "Brother **** is afraid that he will come home from work one day to find his family has burned up in a house fire." I looked at my husband questioningly, knowing this was a threat. He said he'd never voiced anything of the sort. But ...the local fire department was started by our pastor and most of the "volunteers" were church members.

When I finally was able to leave the church ... although we still lived within a mile of the compound .... Mother's Day of 2007 ...it got worse, my husband became an angry and fearful person ...and on Mother's Day of 2009, my children and I were abducted, drugged, and s.xually assaulted/tortured inside our barn while my husband was away at work (yes, on Mother's Day).

My husband also was accessed and threatened. He came home in a state of mind that had him nearly incoherent. He couldn't remember where he'd been for 2 hours after he got off work.

After the assaults in the barn, our barn was arsoned ....of course. And guess who showed up to fight the fire (gloat)?

Anyway ....I know all too well how the cult lifts up their leader/s and you can't challenge them bc if you do "god" will get you.
Thanks for sharing. I do pray you will come to know that God is still good, and leave the door open if only a crack for those He legitimately sends for His own good purpose. pryw
 
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A rapist, child trafficking murderer .... that's the farthest thing from Jesus Christ. He thinks he can measure up to God? Unless he repents and accepts Jesus Christ as his Savior he will face eternal separation from God. So far, he's said he's not a Christian, and he doesn't ask God for forgiveness, nor even brings God into "that picture." You can follow him if that's your desire ....but I won't follow him or his false religion.
lets not forget a convicted felon;

Donald Trump is a convicted felon.

  • In May 2024, a New York jury found him guilty on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records related to hush-money payments.
  • That verdict made him the first U.S. president ever convicted of a felony.
  • In January 2025, he was sentenced to an “unconditional discharge” (no prison, fine, or probation), but the conviction still stands on his record.
As of now, he remains a convicted felon unless the conviction is overturned on appeal.
 
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