Should a politician or anybody display themselves as Christ

[TLHKAJ]

Thanks for sharing. I do pray you will come to know that God is still good, and leave the door open if only a crack for those He legitimately sends for His own good purpose.

I do appreciate your kind words. I do know God is good despite a lot of pain and loss in my life. You can't know He is good until you taste and see. I have tasted and seen ...and He is faithful. His peace passes understanding. Where else can we go for that peace when nothing in the world makes sense?

 

[ScottA]

lets not forget a convicted felon;

Donald Trump is a convicted felon.

• In May 2024, a New York jury found him guilty on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records related to hush-money payments.
• That verdict made him the first U.S. president ever convicted of a felony.
• In January 2025, he was sentenced to an “unconditional discharge” (no prison, fine, or probation), but the conviction still stands on his record.

As of now, he remains a convicted felon unless the conviction is overturned on appeal.

Such lawfare will eventually be undone...when all the evidence becomes public.

 

[ProDeo]

Paul wrote of me, and John, and before them Daniel.

Where in Scripture ?

 

[LoveYeshua]

Where in Scripture ?

is he serious?

 

[ProDeo]

is he serious?

I think he is.

 

[Marvelloustime]

HATE is only applied BY THE TRUMP REALM when one is against trump .
JUST LIKE hate , racism and any other phobia is used against any who opposes their folk .
IN OTHER WORDS , THE DEVIL has them both duped . BUT it is why it was written
CURSED IS THE MAN WHOSE HOPE be in man . cause the left hopes in man and the right hopes in man .
OOOPSY both DUPED too .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

as i said THEY can only see the log in the others eye and yet not THE ARK in their own .
POPE LEO is as bad as trump . THEY both behind the same ecumenical int efaith interreligious dialgoue
That is GONNA END THIS ENTIRE WORLD .
My advice to us all . Heed none of them . GET out of anything ecuemincal and NOW .
Trump cannot save us , POPE leo cannot save us
In fact no man can . THE many are here to DECIEVE US NOW .
and any and all whose hopes be in man are cursed and will b uy the lie .
Cursed is the man whose hopes were and are in man .
BLESSED be the man whose hope be IN THE LORD , THUS IN HIS CHRIST and IN HIS WORDS they do beleive and safely trust .
The time now is and has been , get every man woman and child
pointed to JESUS and INTO THE BIBLE . Ecumenical house , ecumenical farm
will soon be ENFORCED through a powerful digitgal AI , image speaking system .
Such a system wherein if one no comply he no sell and he no buy .
AND BoY does that SOUND REAL FAMILIAR indeed . lets wipe the dust off the bible
and see exactly HOW FAMILIAR this all is my friend . Nearly two thousand years ago
it was revealed by JESUS to a man named john . And he wrote about what HE had h eard and seen .

@amigo de christo

 

[TLHKAJ]

Paul wrote of me, and John, and before them Daniel.

But your idea of "If God is behind the message...He will prosper and emphasize it" is not always true and more likely not. More likely messages from God through those He sends is rejected, or not understood or taken to account, even for hundreds or thousands of years, and the messenger is most often ridiculed or even killed. But even so, the message stands as true regardless while people and many generations live their whole lives perhaps never to fully know the truth until after they die and are in the presence of God. For this reason He Himself declares--"new things I declare; Before they spring forth I tell you of them.”

As for "tooting" my own horn, surely you have read the many passages that one sent by God has declared of themself, saying such things as "The hand of the Lord came upon Me."

Where is your testimony written?

Can you give specific scripture references?

I'm not saying someone can't be sent of God. And we know that there will be two witnesses sent during the tribulation, and they are written of in Scripture.

What concerns me is one saying they've been in the presence of Trump and then portraying Trump as a good person. Good people don't take joy and pleasure in murder, torture, suffering, and death.

 

[Wrangler]

Good people don't take joy and pleasure in …. death.

I bet plenty of good people were happy when Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pot and Saddam were dead.

 

[ScottA]

I bet plenty of good people were happy when Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pot and Saddam were dead.

Or Cyrus or Nebuchanezzar, whom God used.

 

[TLHKAJ]

I bet plenty of good people were happy when Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pot and Saddam were dead.

You knew exactly what I meant. I am referring to Trump's murderous actions. Trump has not only killed children in rituals, but has caused the deaths of thousands during his presidencies ...Operation Warp Speed caused and is still causing thousands of deaths. These genocides he calls "wars" are causing more deaths.

 

[Wrangler]

You knew exactly what I meant. I am referring to Trump's murderous actions.

I wonder how free from joy you'll be when Trump dies.

False accusation. Killing is justified. Guess what? People are killed in war.

Trump has not only killed children in rituals,

causing thousands of deaths.

Another fact free post.

 

[Triumph1300]

If Trumps's actions are NOT about oil and not about helping the Iranian people (bombing schools, hospitals, bridges etc), one would assume it's about nuclear weapons as preached on daily American news.

It makes me wonder when will Trump focus on North Korea?
Oh, wait North Korea has no oil.

Domestic Production and Reserves​

North Korea produces only about 108 barrels of oil per day, which is extremely small compared to its consumption of nearly 18,921 barrels per day as of 2024, making it largely dependent on imports to satisfy demand. The country has some crude oil reserves, but they are minimal and not sufficient for domestic energy needs. Most of its energy comes from coal and hydroelectric power, with oil playing a smaller role in the overall energy mix.

Worldometer+2

Oil Refining Facilities​

North Korea has two main crude oil refining facilities: the Seungri Chemical Plant with a capacity of 2 million tons per year (currently inactive) and the Bongwha Chemical Plant with a capacity of 1.5 million tons per year, which operates partially. Crude oil is delivered to Bongwha via the North Korea-China Friendship Pipeline, supplying roughly 0.5 million tons annually. These refineries process imported crude to produce petroleum products like diesel, gasoline, and jet fuel.

KDI 한국개발연구원+1

Import Dependence​

Due to limited domestic production, North Korea imports the majority of its oil, primarily from China through pipelines and shipments, and historically from Russia. Imports are critical for transportation, industry, and military use. United Nations sanctions, such as UNSC Resolution 2397, restrict refined oil imports to 0.5 million barrels per year, significantly impacting the country’s energy supply.
Wikipedia+2
https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=f597...ZXJzLmluZm8vb2lsL25vcnRoLWtvcmVhLW9pbC8&ntb=1
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[ScottA]

Where is your testimony written?

Can you give specific scripture references?

I'm not saying someone can't be sent of God. And we know that there will be two witnesses sent during the tribulation, and they are written of in Scripture.

What concerns me is one saying they've been in the presence of Trump and then portraying Trump as a good person. Good people don't take joy and pleasure in murder, torture, suffering, and death.

This is brief, as a witness to new believers or those still seeking, and goes back to the beginning. Forty years have gone by since then, and four books have been added.

As for scriptures, I give them often, even specifically regarding what is written of me--but will not here and now, as this is your request, not God's, and it is better that you hear and understand what the Spirit says and consider what is written on your own. @ProDeo

My Testimony

Growing up was like something out of a story book. I’ll get to times of suffering, but for the most part life was good. I was raised on a ranch with a wonderful, loving mother and father, a sister and two brothers, and friends. Although we had lots of chores and worked really hard compared to other kids, it was a good, healthy, and memorable time. After high school, as the nursery rhyme goes: “first came love, then came marriage, and kids in the baby carriage.” I worked a couple of tough jobs for about a decade and then went into business for myself. It was all very much the typical American dream.

Then, my business got broken into—three consecutive times!

The financial hardship caused the breakup of my marriage. I was separated from my children. Then, after dividing everything into two unequal halves in divorce, my half went down like a sinking ship. I ended up filing for bankruptcy, and lost it all.

Then came insult to injury. I had suffered no physically harm, it’s just that I was at the top of my game while all this was happening. I had even invented a few things. At a new job after the bankruptcy, I even won awards for things that had not been attempted before in the company's entire 30-year history. That year I increased sales in my territory from 600,000 to a $1,000,000, and received the president of the company’s top annual sales award. And yet, by a series of unfortunate events—that rug too was pulled out from under me. My best was good—very good, but it didn't seem to matter.

One night, after a long downward spiral, at the end of myself, I decided to have a little talk with God—that is, if there was a God. At the time, I wasn't sure. But I started talking to him anyway, and said, "This is the place where a person takes their own life—but I'm not going to do it! I'm not playing this game anymore! If you want my life God—take it, you can have it! Otherwise, I need some answers. I need to know what life is all about, and what my part in it is. If it all just ends in failure upon failure--what's it all for? What’s the use? Otherwise, I’ve only got one thing left that hasn’t failed me: I'm going to go live in the woods...."

To my complete and utter surprise—He answered!

After having every other door slammed in my face, I finally knocked on the right door!

Lying there in bed, I instantly found myself in the air above the very spot (in the woods) where I had threatened to go, apparently, in the spirit. This sort of religious experience is not so easily defined. But for the sake of argument, let’s just say, the "me" that is usually at home in my body—had left the building!

Next, I found myself with my back up against a huge frozen wall covered with ice. Before me were masses of people as far as I could see, wave after wave, like looking out over the ocean, and they began to stir. In desperation I turned and began beating on the wall of ice with my fists. Chunks of ice came falling down and an enormous door opened up. Through the door I saw a narrow stairway going up into the clouds. At the top--was my father. Now, that may sound like the result of some kind of father issue, but we had no issues. Nothing like that.

Next, I found myself through the door on the narrow stairway, and in through the doorway came babies--infants, wrapped in little white blankets. I reached out and took the first one and passed it up the stairway to my father’s open arms. I turned back and took another and did the same, again, and again, and again.

Sometime thereafter, I suddenly found myself back in the physical, back in my body. Startled, I shot straight up, not stopping until I was seated at the foot of my bed. Eventually I laid back down in awe and bewilderment and went to sleep.

The next morning I awoke refreshed, full of peace and joy. I couldn't stop thinking about my experience, and kept repeating it over and over again in my mind:

"A door was opened to me, and I helped deliver children to my father in the sky..."

"A door was opened to me, and I helped deliver children to my father in the sky!"

What could it all mean?

Suddenly, everything in my life changed. I had to change. I was changed...

My job had already changed, my relationship ended, and I moved.

I then went to live with my younger brother and his family temporarily and made plans for a career change. In the spare room where they put me up, I found a bible. I was drawn to it. I started reading and didn't stop. I went through it like a novel, cover to cover. As I did, I came to realize that whoever was behind this book--was also behind my experience. The author of the bible and the One who answered me, were one and the same. My experience confirmed the bible to be true, and the bible confirmed my experience to be from God. Although there were many points of confirmation, when I got to the part in the gospels about "our Father in heaven", I knew that just as I had seen in my experience—this was my father in the sky!

Since then I have heard many things said about the bible. But, what I found the bible to be after my own very real experience, is a written record of witnesses not unlike myself down through all of history, who have come to know there is a God. There is a God—that is my testimony.

 

[ProDeo]

This is brief, as a witness to new believers or those still seeking, and goes back to the beginning. Forty years have gone by since then, and four books have been added.

As for scriptures, I give them often, even specifically regarding what is written of me--but will not here and now, as this is your request, not God's, and it is better that you hear and understand what the Spirit says and consider what is written on your own. @ProDeo

My Testimony

Growing up was like something out of a story book. I’ll get to times of suffering, but for the most part life was good. I was raised on a ranch with a wonderful, loving mother and father, a sister and two brothers, and friends. Although we had lots of chores and worked really hard compared to other kids, it was a good, healthy, and memorable time. After high school, as the nursery rhyme goes: “first came love, then came marriage, and kids in the baby carriage.” I worked a couple of tough jobs for about a decade and then went into business for myself. It was all very much the typical American dream.

Then, my business got broken into—three consecutive times!

The financial hardship caused the breakup of my marriage. I was separated from my children. Then, after dividing everything into two unequal halves in divorce, my half went down like a sinking ship. I ended up filing for bankruptcy, and lost it all.

Then came insult to injury. I had suffered no physically harm, it’s just that I was at the top of my game while all this was happening. I had even invented a few things. At a new job after the bankruptcy, I even won awards for things that had not been attempted before in the company's entire 30-year history. That year I increased sales in my territory from 600,000 to a $1,000,000, and received the president of the company’s top annual sales award. And yet, by a series of unfortunate events—that rug too was pulled out from under me. My best was good—very good, but it didn't seem to matter.

One night, after a long downward spiral, at the end of myself, I decided to have a little talk with God—that is, if there was a God. At the time, I wasn't sure. But I started talking to him anyway, and said, "This is the place where a person takes their own life—but I'm not going to do it! I'm not playing this game anymore! If you want my life God—take it, you can have it! Otherwise, I need some answers. I need to know what life is all about, and what my part in it is. If it all just ends in failure upon failure--what's it all for? What’s the use? Otherwise, I’ve only got one thing left that hasn’t failed me: I'm going to go live in the woods...."

To my complete and utter surprise—He answered!

After having every other door slammed in my face, I finally knocked on the right door!

Lying there in bed, I instantly found myself in the air above the very spot (in the woods) where I had threatened to go, apparently, in the spirit. This sort of religious experience is not so easily defined. But for the sake of argument, let’s just say, the "me" that is usually at home in my body—had left the building!

Next, I found myself with my back up against a huge frozen wall covered with ice. Before me were masses of people as far as I could see, wave after wave, like looking out over the ocean, and they began to stir. In desperation I turned and began beating on the wall of ice with my fists. Chunks of ice came falling down and an enormous door opened up. Through the door I saw a narrow stairway going up into the clouds. At the top--was my father. Now, that may sound like the result of some kind of father issue, but we had no issues. Nothing like that.

Next, I found myself through the door on the narrow stairway, and in through the doorway came babies--infants, wrapped in little white blankets. I reached out and took the first one and passed it up the stairway to my father’s open arms. I turned back and took another and did the same, again, and again, and again.

Sometime thereafter, I suddenly found myself back in the physical, back in my body. Startled, I shot straight up, not stopping until I was seated at the foot of my bed. Eventually I laid back down in awe and bewilderment and went to sleep.

The next morning I awoke refreshed, full of peace and joy. I couldn't stop thinking about my experience, and kept repeating it over and over again in my mind:

"A door was opened to me, and I helped deliver children to my father in the sky..."

"A door was opened to me, and I helped deliver children to my father in the sky!"

What could it all mean?

Suddenly, everything in my life changed. I had to change. I was changed...

My job had already changed, my relationship ended, and I moved.

I then went to live with my younger brother and his family temporarily and made plans for a career change. In the spare room where they put me up, I found a bible. I was drawn to it. I started reading and didn't stop. I went through it like a novel, cover to cover. As I did, I came to realize that whoever was behind this book--was also behind my experience. The author of the bible and the One who answered me, were one and the same. My experience confirmed the bible to be true, and the bible confirmed my experience to be from God. Although there were many points of confirmation, when I got to the part in the gospels about "our Father in heaven", I knew that just as I had seen in my experience—this was my father in the sky!

Since then I have heard many things said about the bible. But, what I found the bible to be after my own very real experience, is a written record of witnesses not unlike myself down through all of history, who have come to know there is a God. There is a God—that is my testimony.

Thanks for sharing Scott.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Since then I have heard many things said about the bible. But, what I found the bible to be after my own very real experience, is a written record of witnesses not unlike myself down through all of history, who have come to know there is a God. There is a God—that is my testimony

Thank you for sharing. Can you share the Scripture references that confirm what you said, that your life was prophesied in Scripture?

 

[ScottA]

Thank you for sharing. Can you share the Scripture references that confirm what you said, that your life was prophesied in Scripture?

I said I would not and why, but since you persist I am released and the matter is on you. Even so, it would not be right to just give chapter and verse, because mere literary revelation is not all that is involved, but also spiritual revelation Without which one will be turned back to the restraint laid upon these matters just as it has been for so long--only to come to the full knowledge of the truth in death. But I will do what I can:

I have already stated that I was "caught up to the third heaven and heard words unlawful to utter", of which there is only one passage. In which Paul did not identify who he was referring to, though many have assumed he was referring to himself somewhat cloaked. I cannot say whether or not he was referring to himself, and my answer is the same as his: "God knows?" It is completely possible that he was referring to himself, but the matter was not revealed during his lifetime, thus making for the possibility that he was referring to himself (or not), but that it was a prophecy that he was personally limited to--because it referred to the gentiles, and the times of the gentiles were not to be fulfill during his lifetime. But I am just being reasonable, that you may navigate by your own reasoning--even though I now know for certain what he did not know then. Again, the revelation is not complete without the Spirit revealing it to you as He too is also under restraint until the times are fulfilled. In any case, the passage alone from Paul does not make it clear who he is referring to regarding the words that were at that time unlawful to utter, and thus would only come with "all truth" as promised by Christ. And the words were "to them precept upon precept, line upon line, here a little there a little." Such is the way of God, who changes not.

All of which refers to two others passages and two other people, Daniel and John the apostle of Jesus--"by the mouth of two or three witnesses."

Daniel was specifically told that the end of the revelations that he did not understand were "closed up and sealed till the time of the end", because the revelations from God "here a little there a little" were to come "first to the Jew, and also to the Greek" afterwards. Which would be the end of the times of the gentiles, coinciding then with what Paul could not utter during his time at the beginning of the times of the gentiles.

The apostle John then in Revelation spoke of "the mystery of God" being "finished"--but again was told not to write what he had seen, but to seal it up, after which the angel of the Lord somewhat explained the "finish" of "all truth", including those things that were before sealed. The "finish" of which was given to me. Which I have explained here on Christianity Board...but it would appear that no one is ready to receive it.

The "finish"--that sealed part of the scriptures--in Revelation was explained as a matter of "time no longer"--which most assume refers to the end of time. However, the order of events lists "time no longer" before the end--not when the seventh trump or seventh angel sounds the end, but rather "when he is about to sound", meaning before the end. Again, I am not attempting to be convincing--these things I know for certain--I am only being reasonable, that you might reason the matter for yourself. But the point is--"time no longer" means something else. It is in fact the key to "all truth" as promised by Christ. That key is the removal of the "time" element from the scriptures--not adding, not taking away (actually), but viewing everything as God does--without "time."

You can try it--scripture with no timeline. What does that even look like? It doesn't look like things past or future, or "I was" or "I will be"--but "I am."

"Then comes the end." In that order.

 

[ProDeo]

I have already stated that I was "caught up to the third heaven and heard words unlawful to utter", of which there is only one passage. In which Paul did not identify who he was referring to, though many have assumed he was referring to himself somewhat cloaked.

Do you believe the person Paul speaks about is you ?

The apostle John then in Revelation spoke of "the mystery of God" being "finished"--but again was told not to write what he had seen, but to seal it up, after which the angel of the Lord somewhat explained the "finish" of "all truth", including those things that were before sealed. The "finish" of which was given to me.

Which mystery of God you have explained in your books ?

Which I have explained here on Christianity Board...but it would appear that no one is ready to receive it.

It may help if you release it as an PDF, free for everybody to read it, I know I would.

 

[ScottA]

Do you believe the person Paul speaks about is you ?

That kind of question can be used or perceived, whether by me or others, as innocent or vindictive (like: "Who do you think your are?!"), so I will have to answer for both possibilities.

If innocently asked, No, but rather I know it to be so. Which is not to say that it was not true of Paul as well. You see, he was the beginning of the times of the gentiles, but the subject he spoke of was regarding the "finish" of the times of the gentiles. Therefore, one might ask him the same question--or asked the same "do you believe...it's about you" question even of perhaps many biblical characters also. The best example is Jesus--not that I would compare myself to Him--but do remember that Paul boastfully said, "for me, to live is Christ." So I will use Jesus as that best example, although there are others I could use: Asking your question then of Christ, would be to ask, "Do you believe the person Isaiah spoke about, saying 'The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me, Because He has anointed Me To preach the gospel...'?"...Or for that matter, the same question could have been asked of Isaiah. Did Jesus know? Did Isaiah know it was about him to say it, but more importantly about another? Did Paul know? Those are all good question, but the point is...this is how God works, whether we believe it or not.

Which mystery of God you have explained in your books ?

The mystery spoken of by John in Revelation 10:5-7: "And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, 6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: 7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets." Which, by the same word, is the "finish", that Daniel also spoke of, saying "To finish the transgression, To make an end of sins, To make reconciliation for iniquity, To bring in everlasting righteousness, To seal up vision and prophecy, And to anoint the Most Holy" (Daniel 9:24). Which is not complete until the times of the gentiles are fulfilled.

It may help if you release it as an PDF, free for everybody to read it, I know I would.

I take that as a sincere recommendation...thank you! But again, I should answer for all possibilities:

A PDF is essentially what books are. But if what is really in your mind, is more accusationally intended, like "You're just trying to sell books"--which others have done, and is just rude and vindictive...understand that a few may get even the whole Bible for free, but most buy them. Why? Why ask me? Ask the owner of any bookstore. But I will say, the digital version of my books...is very close to just giving them away.

 

[ProDeo]

That kind of question can be used or perceived, whether by me or others, as innocent or vindictive (like: "Who do you think your are?!"), so I will have to answer for both possibilities.

If innocently asked, No, but rather I know it to be so. Which is not to say that it was not true of Paul as well. You see, he was the beginning of the times of the gentiles, but the subject he spoke of was regarding the "finish" of the times of the gentiles. Therefore, one might ask him the same question--or asked the same "do you believe...it's about you" question even of perhaps many biblical characters also. The best example is Jesus--not that I would compare myself to Him--but do remember that Paul boastfully said, "for me, to live is Christ." So I will use Jesus as that best example, although there are others I could use: Asking your question then of Christ, would be to ask, "Do you believe the person Isaiah spoke about, saying 'The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me, Because He has anointed Me To preach the gospel...'?"...Or for that matter, the same question could have been asked of Isaiah. Did Jesus know? Did Isaiah know it was about him to say it, but more importantly about another? Did Paul know? Those are all good question, but the point is...this is how God works, whether we believe it or not.


The mystery spoken of by John in Revelation 10:5-7: "And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, 6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: 7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets." Which, by the same word, is the "finish", that Daniel also spoke of, saying "To finish the transgression, To make an end of sins, To make reconciliation for iniquity, To bring in everlasting righteousness, To seal up vision and prophecy, And to anoint the Most Holy" (Daniel 9:24). Which is not complete until the times of the gentiles are fulfilled.

So far I have not read convincing evidence about your daring statement : Paul wrote of me, and John, and before them Daniel. Instead from your words I sense you believe it to be true but at the same time you are not sure. Maybe include the word "maybe or possibly"?

I know what it means, I am pretty sure I received a teaching from the Lord, at the same time I doubt, as a result I seldom talk about it and when I do there are a lot of maybe's in it, I can't speak truth when I actually doubt per Romans 14:23

I take that as a sincere recommendation...thank you! But again, I should answer for all possibilities:

A PDF is essentially what books are. But if what is really in your mind, is more accusationally intended, like "You're just trying to sell books"--which others have done, and is just rude and vindictive...understand that a few may get even the whole Bible for free, but most buy them. Why? Why ask me? Ask the owner of any bookstore. But I will say, the digital version of my books...is very close to just giving them away.

I see... I asked because I can't no longer read books, I don't have kindle either. It's not about the price, it's quite cheap, it's the quality of my eyes.