Is it possible to lose salvation?

[Eternally Grateful]

Sounds lovely indeed . But not if we preach belief and unbelif .
Not if we simply say I beleive but its okay that them other religoins do not .
No . For we cannot be as the many who cliam to say I believe but then imply through intefaith its not necessary to do so .

did God change you or not?

If he did, you have nothing to worry about

if he did not. You are in extreme danger and need to get saved. because your still on the outside looking in

 

[Cyd]

I don't know if anyone has said this or not to many posts but I will put this but Yeshua said this:
Matthew 7:22-23 (KJV) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Just who do you think He is talking to? I say so called Christians

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I don't know if anyone has said this or not to many posts but I will put this but Yeshua said this:
Matthew 7:22-23 (KJV) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Just who do you think He is talking to? I say so called Christians

He said they work iniquity. or ocntinue in sin. John said they were never of us..

 

[Cyd]

He said they work iniquity. or ocntinue in sin. John said they were never of us..

Well if you continued reading He spoke of "these sayings of mine" not anyone else. That is how I see it He speaks of "my words" and "my sayings" look them up in KJV He defines what it is to know Him.

 

[KUWN]

and that being the case, Christ through Paul would teach that for today.
Please list the verses from Paul that teach a sealed believer can become UNsealed
Let Scripture prove that you are right :)

I must have misstated something in my post. I am arguing that no believer can ever be unsealed. Could you let me know where I said that. I apologize if I didn't clarify my position. I would like to correct that post.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Well if you continued reading He spoke of "these sayings of mine" not anyone else. That is how I see it He speaks of "my words" and "my sayings" look them up in KJV He defines what it is to know Him.

not sure what you mean, He said whoever continues in sin os of the devil. Whoever is born of God does not sin (continue in)

 

[Gray_Joy]

I would encourage those who may arrive here seeking answers to read the Bible first.
Not a forum where believers and unbelievers alike spend time.

Here below are concise passages that in a nutshell assure readers Salvation in Christ is eternal. It is of God that we are saved. Not of ourselves.
God is not human,he does not lie or make mistakes.

John 10:27–29 Jesus: “My sheep… I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.”

Romans 8:38–39 Tells us nothing can separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus.

Ephesians 1:13–14 Believers are sealed with the Holy Spirit as a guarantee of our inheritance,our eternal salvation,as property of holy God.

1 Peter 1:3–5

Philippians 1:6 God who began a good work in us will bring it to completion.

Hebrews 7:25

Romans 5:9–10
Tells us we are justified by his blood; Eternally saved through him and we are sealed, (Ephesians 1), marked in a sense,blessed,to be the property of our Savior God.

 

[Taken]

only one problem with this analogy.

The prize was collected the moment I won. Not only was it collected. It had the seal of the spirit as a pledge.

You know what offering YOU chose.

* confess your belief to the Lord, crucify your body with His, become Forgiven, Become MADE Converted?

If so, as I said you Have your Salvation NOW.

OR

Believe, no confession, no conversion, and hope you still Believe at your moment of Bodily Death?
Then God shall save you THEN.

Christ Jesus Redeems those Saved IN Him.
Rapture, Before The great Trib sent down from Heaven.

Yet, during the Trib., many shall come to believe, bodily die, and God shall save them, same as God Saved men Before Jesus arrived on Earth and Offered His Salvation (before mortal death).

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

not sure what you mean, He said whoever continues in sin os of the devil. Whoever is born of God does not sin (continue in)

He born (again) of Gods Seed… can Never Again Sin… which means Never again, NOT believe in The Lord God Almighty.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

According to pau the moment we first believed. We were given the seal of the HS as a pledge

Heartful belief is required.

A mans natural spirit, is his truth in his heart.

 

[amigo de christo]

did God change you or not?

If he did, you have nothing to worry about

if he did not. You are in extreme danger and need to get saved. because your still on the outside looking in

and still you hold to the interfaith . it will be to your own destruction . I have done what i could .
TRUTH be told , most all of you now s trving , actually are already going into it .
You all have that one thing in common . And if the lie its not yet believed , WELL it soon will be .
i am so sorry for you and for others too .
But this sheep wont conform to a harlots love . that ecumiencal intefaith is st raight up from satan and many anti christs
and a well favored harlot . I pray that many come out of it and fast
before it forever leads them to the lie and they be damned . At least i warned .

 

[mailmandan]

I don't know if anyone has said this or not to many posts but I will put this but Yeshua said this:
Matthew 7:22-23 (KJV) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Just who do you think He is talking to? I say so called Christians

Yes, so called or "nominal" (in name only) Christians. In context, we start out with verse 15 - Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. Jesus never knew these many people which means they were never saved.

 

[PeterAndroz]

I must have misstated something in my post. I am arguing that no believer can ever be unsealed. Could you let me know where I said that. I apologize if I didn't clarify my position. I would like to correct that post.

Then we agree on that particular point.
I too do not see where Paul (Rom to Philemon) teaches a sealed believer can become UNsealed.
An Eph 4:30 sealed till redemption believer is a eternally saved believer

 

[Marvelloustime]

and still you hold to the interfaith . it will be to your own destruction . I have done what i could .
TRUTH be told , most all of you now s trving , actually are already going into it .
You all have that one thing in common . And if the lie its not yet believed , WELL it soon will be .
i am so sorry for you and for others too .
But this sheep wont conform to a harlots love . that ecumiencal intefaith is st raight up from satan and many anti christs
and a well favored harlot . I pray that many come out of it and fast
before it forever leads them to the lie and they be damned . At least i warned .

@amigo de christo

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You know what offering YOU chose.

* confess your belief to the Lord, crucify your body with His, become Forgiven, Become MADE Converted?

If so, as I said you Have your Salvation NOW.

OR

Believe, no confession, no conversion, and hope you still Believe at your moment of Bodily Death?
Then God shall save you THEN.

Christ Jesus Redeems those Saved IN Him.
Rapture, Before The great Trib sent down from Heaven.

Yet, during the Trib., many shall come to believe, bodily die, and God shall save them, same as God Saved men Before Jesus arrived on Earth and Offered His Salvation (before mortal death).

Glory to God,
Taken

If you read Genesis. God saved Abraham because abraham trusted him, He was saved on the spot. If you read romans. it was written (the account of abraham's salvation) for our benefit. to show that we will be saved the same way.

Romans 6: 16 Therefore it is of faith that it might be according to grace, so that the promise might be sure to all the seed, not only to those who are of the law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all 17 (as it is written, “I have made you a father of many nations”) in the presence of Him whom he believed—God, who gives life to the dead and calls those things which do not exist as though they did; 18 who, contrary to hope, in hope believed, so that he became the father of many nations, according to what was spoken, “So shall your descendants be.” 19 And not being weak in faith, he did not consider his own body, already dead (since he was about a hundred years old), and the deadness of Sarah’s womb. 20 He did not waver at the promise of God through unbelief, but was strengthened in faith, giving glory to God, 21 and being fully convinced that what He had promised He was also able to perform. 22 And therefore “it was accounted to him for righteousness.”

23 Now it was not written for his sake alone that it was imputed to him, 24 but also for us. It shall be imputed to us who believe in Him who raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead, 25 who was delivered up because of our offenses, and was raised because of our justification.

Salvation has always been by grace through faith that God provided a way. He would rescue his people.. It was never different

 

[Eternally Grateful]

He born (again) of Gods Seed… can Never Again Sin… which means Never again, NOT believe in The Lord God Almighty.

Glory to God,
Taken

but they do sin.. and will until they recieve their glorified body. which will be totally free from sin.

Even paul spoke of his struggles with sin.

A born again child of God can not live like he did before he was saved, which he lived in continual sin.. thats what John was saying

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Heartful belief is required.

A mans natural spirit, is his truth in his heart.

20 He did not waver at the promise of God through unbelief, but was strengthened in faith, giving glory to God, 21 and being fully convinced that what He had promised He was also able to perform. 22 And therefore “it was accounted to him for righteousness.”

This is what I think. are we fully convinced that what God has promised through his son he is able to deliver? I think many claim they are saved. but are not fully convinced.. They have a mental belief. but not a heartfelt trust in the almighty God.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

and still you hold to the interfaith .

I have no idea what your taking about man

it will be to your own destruction . I have done what i could .

Actually My faith is in God.. Like Abraham, I trust God when he said I was made his son (john 1: 12) When he said I will never perish but have eternal life (john 3) As John the baptist said, I have eternal life, and will not suffer the wrath of God (john 3) I drank the living water, I will never thirst. and I will live forever (john 4) I heard the word, and placed my faith in it. so I have passed from life to death and have eternal life and I will not come into judgment (John 5) I have complete faith that as Jesus said, having eaten the food which endures forever, I will never hunger or thirst, I will by no means be cast out, I will be risen on the last day, I have eternal life, I will not die, I will live forever, (john 6)

So I do not fear destruction my friend.. But those who does not trust this.. I fear for their destruction..

TRUTH be told , most all of you now s trving , actually are already going into it .
You all have that one thing in common . And if the lie its not yet believed , WELL it soon will be .
i am so sorry for you and for others too .
But this sheep wont conform to a harlots love . that ecumiencal intefaith is st raight up from satan and many anti christs
and a well favored harlot . I pray that many come out of it and fast
before it forever leads them to the lie and they be damned . At least i warned .

I feel sorry for you.. I trust God. you keep trusting in self my friend.. I pray it works out for you

 

[Taken]

Salvation has always been by grace through faith that God provided a way. He would rescue his people.. It was never different

From Ancient days to this day…
Trust and Faith is not in dispute.

Gods Offerings and mans Trust to Believe is Always the Beginning of such a Relationship between a man and God.

Faith is a gift from God for a mans Effort to HEAR Gods Word.

Promises (Covenants) from God, reveals the outcome of What God Offers and man TRUSTS to freely Accept.

Jer 31:
[31] Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

Heb.12
[24] And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.


Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

20 He did not waver at the promise of God through unbelief, but was strengthened in faith, giving glory to God, 21 and being fully convinced that what He had promised He was also able to perform. 22 And therefore “it was accounted to him for righteousness.”

This is what I think. are we fully convinced that what God has promised through his son he is able to deliver? I think many claim they are saved. but are not fully convinced..


They have a mental belief. but not a heartfelt trust in the almighty God.

Agree…
And thus a dilemma, regarding Spiritual things.

Rom 8:
[7] Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

Glory to God,
Taken