Using the term "rapture" incorrectly

[CrowCross]

The last day Jesus was in the tomb is what The Last Day means…: “I will raise him up on the last day”.

There is also “the last days” which most people believe means the end of the world but from my point of view the “lasts days” means the end of an age or the end of a system like the old covenant or a “great reset” like humanity is going through right now. We are in the last of days of the way of life that we have lived for a long time.

Raise Him up or them up?

John 6:39 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall lose none of those He has given Me, but raise them up at the last day.

 

[CrowCross]

Don't Respond

(The Last Day) Represents The Time Of The Resurrection And The Final Judgement, The End

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

Christ at His coming is the pre-trib rapture.
Then cometh the end is the 7 year tribulation.

 

[IndianaRob]

Raise Him up or them up?

John 6:39 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall lose none of those He has given Me, but raise them up at the last day.

Both and that’s why it’s mentioned twice in John 6. “It” in verse 39 is the tabernacle of David which is the Old Testament way of saying the body of Christ. They died having never seen Christ.

Verse 40 is about those that saw Christ during his earthly ministry. Both groups were raised to eternal life on “the last day”.

Jhn 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

Jhn 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

 

[Davidpt]

besides the bible proclaiming a pre-trib rapture....one of the reasons I don't believe in a post-trib rapture is because of the way they mock christians who understand the rapture is pre-trib.

Mocking one's view of something should not be allowed, and that some of us are guilty of that very same thing at times, but just because one might do that at times, that hardly proves your point, though. Because I have noted in the past, Pretribbers mocking post tribbers in the sme manner you are complaining about. Which then should equal this.


one of the reasons I don't believe in a post-trib rapture is because of the way they mock christians who understand the rapture is pre-trib.

one of the reasons I don't believe in a pretrib rapture is because of the way they mock christians who understand the rapture is post-trib.

Now what? Only your reason is valid but a post tribbers' reason is not valid?

 

[Truth7t7]

Christ at His coming is the pre-trib rapture.
Then cometh the end is the 7 year tribulation.

I Asked You Not To Respond Because I Was Working On My Post And You Did "Why"?

 

[Truth7t7]

Christ at His coming is the pre-trib rapture.
Then cometh the end is the 7 year tribulation.

Your claim is false, "Christ At His Coming" isn't a pre-trib rapture, nor is "Then Cometh The End" a 7 year tribulation

To be honest, you can't be taken seriously, and would be considered immature as far as eschatology is concerned, perhaps elementary school level

In the light of your response I will refrain from further engagement

In Love, Jesus Is The Lord

 

[Davy]

besides the bible proclaiming a pre-trib rapture....one of the reasons I don't believe in a post-trib rapture is because of the way they mock christians who understand the rapture is pre-trib.

Who cares what one believes that does NOT listen to Lord Jesus Christ...

Both of the following Scripture examples by Lord Jesus Christ align perfectly with what Apostle Paul taught in 1 Thessalonians 4 about the gathering of the Church to Christ in the near future...

Matt 24:29-31
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And He shall send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
KJV

Mark 13:24-27
24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
27 And then shall He send His angels, and shall gather together His elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.
KJV

 

[CrowCross]

Your claim is false, "Christ At His Coming" isn't a pre-trib rapture, nor is "Then Cometh The End" a 7 year tribulation

To be honest, you can't be taken seriously, and would be considered immature as far as eschatology is concerned, perhaps elementary school level

In the light of your response I will refrain from further engagement

In Love, Jesus Is The Lord

Reading your hateful post..I have to ask you, would you like to meet the real Jesus?

 

[rebuilder 454]

Yes the resurrection and (catching up/rapture) takes place on (The Last Day) not 3.5 years before it, as dispensationalism falsely teaches

John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 11:23-24KJV
23 Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.
24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

Is this the last day?
Rev 14:14
14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

Or Is this the last day?
Mat24
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

Or is this the last day?
Rev 19
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

 

[Truth7t7]

Is this the last day?
Rev 14:14
14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

(Yes) the chapter shows (The Last Day) resurrection and second coming taking place, there's only one future time in the second coming and resurrection of "All" John 5:28-29, Daniel 12:1-2

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Or Is this the last day?
Mat24
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

(Yes) the chapter shows (The Last Day) resurrection and second coming taking place , there's only one future time in the second coming and resurrection of "All" John 5:28-29, Daniel 12:1-2

Or is this the last day?
Rev 19
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

(Yes) the chapter shows (The Last Day) second coming and final judgement taking place , there's only one future time in the second coming, resurrection, and final judgement of "All" John 5:28-29, Daniel 12:1-2