Steven Spielberg’s new movie Disclosure Day

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Angels can suddenly appear for:​

1. Announcement

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2. Rescue

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3. Judgment

  • Assyrian army, Balaam, David’s census

4. Guidance / Commission

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5. Revelation

  • Ezekiel, Daniel, Jacob

Luk 1:26-38 Now in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth, (27) to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David. The virgin's name was Mary. (28) And having come in, the angel said to her, "Rejoice, highly favored one, the Lord is with you; blessed are you among women!" (29) But when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and considered what manner of greeting this was. (30) Then the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. (31) And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name JESUS. (32) He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David. (33) And He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of His kingdom there will be no end." (34) Then Mary said to the angel, "How can this be, since I do not know a man?" (35) And the angel answered and said to her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God. (36) Now indeed, Elizabeth your relative has also conceived a son in her old age; and this is now the sixth month for her who was called barren. (37) For with God nothing will be impossible." (38) Then Mary said, "Behold the maidservant of the Lord! Let it be to me according to your word." And the angel departed from her.
Where does the cattle mutilation and human abduction occur? Inside of a teleportation beam?
 

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I watched a pod from Sam Shamoun on the movie. He mentions Spielberg had written in a character. A Nun who was a novice, meaning she was studying to be a nun but left.

The nun refers to these aliens as supreme beings to humans. More or less saying they are like gods like God the supreme God of the bible.

This is not the first time I am hearing aliens being associated with gods and demons or spirits. Some powerful being from another dimension. With all the talk on multiverses and other dimensions people can easily believe in such ideas.

But its interesting some sort of demonic force is mentioned. Alien conjures up something completely different to humans. I think its not so much that it is real or not. But that for many people its like its real. They have already opened up to the idea and are being affected. Almost like a self fullfilling prophesy.
 

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I watched a pod from Sam Shamoun on the movie. He mentions Spielberg had written in a character. A Nun who was a novice, meaning she was studying to be a nun but left.

The nun refers to these aliens as supreme beings to humans. More or less saying they are like gods like God the supreme God of the bible.

This is not the first time I am hearing aliens being associated with gods and demons or spirits. Some powerful being from another dimension. With all the talk on multiverses and other dimensions people can easily believe in such ideas.

But its interesting some sort of demonic force is mentioned. Alien conjures up something completely different to humans. I think its not so much that it is real or not. But that for many people its like its real. They have already opened up to the idea and are being affected. Almost like a self fullfilling prophesy.
And perhaps that is the plan. But it has to align with prophecy, and at this time it's not being fully revealed by God. Bits and pieces we understand like before Jesus comes there will be a worldwide worship or obedience to Satan who will most likely be ruling from Jerusalem.

I think 2 Thessalonians 2 and Revelation 13 are two of the best indicators of how things are going to look. And I thank God that for the elect's sake those days will be shortened.
 
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Government hides things,God hides things. Museums and archeologists hide things. Because in all layers of this life,there's a predetermined narrative we are all,world wide,suppose to accept as reality. And comply with.

And then,just as with every religion or belief system the world over, we're told,there's a mystery yet to unfold. Which keeps us looking forward to something that will give us insight into what lays past the same mundane day to day.

Which then naturally instills hope for something better. Insight beyond what we think we know.

Secularly and religiously,it is all about control.

We will all live and die in hope,faith, while working to survive the landscape set at our feet by those in control of mapping it all out.
While never learning the truth this side of the veil.


Spielberg is known for a creative imagination. I look forward to his latest movie release.
HEY NOW! i've been itching to go see this movie so no more details - lol

i plan to watch it today(hopefully)

The "Disclosure" of aliens is part of the deception
 
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HEY NOW! i've been itching to go see this movie so no more details - lol

i plan to watch it today(hopefully)

The "Disclosure" of aliens is part of the deception
Hey if you don't mind let us know how spellberg depicts Christianity as it relates to the reality of everything, including " aliens".
 
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Hey if you don't mind let us know how spellberg depicts Christianity as it relates to the reality of everything, including " aliens".
YES & will do.
i eagerly want to see what 'messages' are being promoted - thank you
 

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And perhaps that is the plan. But it has to align with prophecy, and at this time it's not being fully revealed by God. Bits and pieces we understand like before Jesus comes there will be a worldwide worship or obedience to Satan who will most likely be ruling from Jerusalem.

I think 2 Thessalonians 2 and Revelation 13 are two of the best indicators of how things are going to look. And I thank God that for the elect's sake those days will be shortened.
I would say Jesus comes first...rapture His bride...then...then the worldwide worship or obedience to Satan is next.
 

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The Truth Is Out There, but You May Not Want It

Steven Spielberg’s new movie Disclosure Day has people sitting in theaters right now wondering what the government really knows and whether the biggest truths about our existence have been locked away from us for decades. Everyone says they want the truth. They want government files unsealed. They want classified documents released. They want hidden agendas exposed. They want answers about UFOs, extraterrestrials, secret programs, and what powerful people might know behind closed doors.

That is why Steven Spielberg's new film Disclosure Day is capturing so much attention. The movie imagines a world on the verge of a revelation so massive that it could change everything humanity believes about itself. Hidden evidence emerges. Powerful institutions scramble to maintain control. The world waits for a message from beyond.

The irony is almost impossible to miss.

The story feeds on that restless sense that powerful institutions are hiding something world-changing, that hidden files and secret programs exist, and that if the truth ever broke out it would force everyone to see reality differently. The film builds toward one climactic moment where the world finally gets to hear a message from beyond itself, and the last word it leaves people with is simple: listen.

That hunger is not fake. It sits right under the surface of ordinary life. You feel it when you scroll through headlines about classified documents or unexplained sightings. You feel it in the quiet suspicion that someone somewhere knows more than they are telling. The movie takes that suspicion and turns it into a thriller about revelation finally forcing its way into the open. What it never stops to ask is whether the real problem is that truth has been hidden from us or that we have been hiding from the truth that has already been given.

The Bible says something that cuts straight through the fascination with secret disclosures. Long ago God spoke to the fathers by the prophets in many different ways, but in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son. That is not one more message added to the pile. It is the final word. The Creator did not send an ambassador from another world or release classified information through a whistleblower. He came Himself. The eternal Son took on flesh, walked among us, and made the invisible God known in a way no prophet or vision or distant signal ever could. If you have seen Him, you have seen the Father. That is the disclosure the human race actually received.

The contradiction is hard to miss once you name it. The same people who get worked up over the idea that governments might be concealing proof of other intelligences are often the same people who have spent their lives pushing down the truth God has placed right in front of them. Creation itself keeps testifying that there is a Maker. Conscience keeps testifying that there is a moral law. Scripture keeps declaring who God is and what He requires. Christ keeps confronting the world with who He is and what He has done. Yet the natural response of the human heart is to hold that truth down, to suppress it, to look everywhere else for answers while refusing the one answer that would require us to bow.

The movie ends with an invitation to listen. Scripture has been saying the same thing for centuries, only with far more at stake. When Jesus was transfigured before three of His disciples, the Father’s voice came from heaven and said one thing: hear Him. Not hear every spiritual voice. Not hear impressive teachers or mystical experiences or popular explanations. Hear the Son. He has spoken plainly about sin and the need for repentance. He has spoken plainly about the judgment that is coming. He has spoken plainly about the cross where He bore what sinners deserve and the empty tomb where He defeated death. He has spoken plainly that He alone is the way, the truth, and the life. The question has never been whether God is willing to speak. The question is whether we are willing to listen to the One He has already sent.

There is a disclosure day coming that no movie can invent. Every hidden thing will be brought into the light. Every secret motive, every suppressed truth, and every false comfort will be exposed before the eyes of the God to whom we must give account. Christ will not return quietly. Every eye will see Him. On that day no one will be arguing over whether He exists or whether His words were true. The only question left will be what a person did with the message while it was still being preached.

You do not need another sign from the sky or another file released from some hidden archive. You need to stop suppressing what God has already made known in His Son. The gospel is not secret knowledge reserved for the initiated. It is the public announcement that Christ died for sins according to the Scriptures, that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day. Forgiveness is offered to anyone who turns from sin and trusts Him. That offer stands today. Tomorrow is not guaranteed.

Today, if you will hear His voice, do not harden your heart. The disclosure has already come. The only question left is what you will do with it.

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I like it--you did a great job!

There are a few things that should be clarified, however.

First, it is true that "God spoke to the fathers by the prophets in many different ways, but in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son. That is not one more message added to the pile. It is the final word." However, "these last days" includes what "He has spoken", but does not exclude that He "is the same yesterday, today, and forever." To the contrary, if He "is the same", He "is the same" until "these last days" are completely fulfilled.

Which does not twist or alter what is written, it simply clarifies the full scope of "God with us." Is He with us? Would anyone like to say He is with me, or He is not? Please, by all means--give your witness!

The terms then are "the same" as "yesterday, today (as back then), and forever." Anyone like to say Christ is not the same yesterday, today, and forever?

What does that look like then--like Christ stopped being "the same" after He ascended, or after the twelve stopped writing and died? Who believes that? Well, that is not "forever" is it? Nor is it true that Christ is not even now working among us, being "the same." Is anyone confused about what "forever" means? Would anyone like to say any of that is wrong, or that they have been wrong? Anyone?
 

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I would say Jesus comes first...rapture His bride...then...then the worldwide worship or obedience to Satan is next.
Does your "I would say" agree with the Prophecy given by the LORD Himself of His Second Coming?

Or, are you speaking directly in opposition to the LORD's Prophecy of His Second Coming?

BLESSING, FREEDOM and SAFETY is in trusting His every word.

Easy choice when you consider and embrace the Fear of God for the alternative route and it's subsequent judgment.
 

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Does your "I would say" agree with the Prophecy given by the LORD Himself of His Second Coming?

Or, are you speaking directly in opposition to the LORD's Prophecy of His Second Coming?

BLESSING, FREEDOM and SAFETY is in trusting His every word.

Easy choice when you consider and embrace the Fear of God for the alternative route and it's subsequent judgment.
I would say it speaks more to the "don't be deceived" quote of Jesus.
 

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I would say it speaks more to the "don't be deceived" quote of Jesus.

The only way to be saved from deception then is to believe all that JESUS Prophesied in Matthew chapter 24

Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”

4And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you.

“Immediately
after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
 
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The Truth Is Out There, but You May Not Want It

Steven Spielberg’s new movie Disclosure Day has people sitting in theaters right now wondering what the government really knows and whether the biggest truths about our existence have been locked away from us for decades. Everyone says they want the truth. They want government files unsealed. They want classified documents released. They want hidden agendas exposed. They want answers about UFOs, extraterrestrials, secret programs, and what powerful people might know behind closed doors.

That is why Steven Spielberg's new film Disclosure Day is capturing so much attention. The movie imagines a world on the verge of a revelation so massive that it could change everything humanity believes about itself. Hidden evidence emerges. Powerful institutions scramble to maintain control. The world waits for a message from beyond.

The irony is almost impossible to miss.

The story feeds on that restless sense that powerful institutions are hiding something world-changing, that hidden files and secret programs exist, and that if the truth ever broke out it would force everyone to see reality differently. The film builds toward one climactic moment where the world finally gets to hear a message from beyond itself, and the last word it leaves people with is simple: listen.

That hunger is not fake. It sits right under the surface of ordinary life. You feel it when you scroll through headlines about classified documents or unexplained sightings. You feel it in the quiet suspicion that someone somewhere knows more than they are telling. The movie takes that suspicion and turns it into a thriller about revelation finally forcing its way into the open. What it never stops to ask is whether the real problem is that truth has been hidden from us or that we have been hiding from the truth that has already been given.

The Bible says something that cuts straight through the fascination with secret disclosures. Long ago God spoke to the fathers by the prophets in many different ways, but in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son. That is not one more message added to the pile. It is the final word. The Creator did not send an ambassador from another world or release classified information through a whistleblower. He came Himself. The eternal Son took on flesh, walked among us, and made the invisible God known in a way no prophet or vision or distant signal ever could. If you have seen Him, you have seen the Father. That is the disclosure the human race actually received.

The contradiction is hard to miss once you name it. The same people who get worked up over the idea that governments might be concealing proof of other intelligences are often the same people who have spent their lives pushing down the truth God has placed right in front of them. Creation itself keeps testifying that there is a Maker. Conscience keeps testifying that there is a moral law. Scripture keeps declaring who God is and what He requires. Christ keeps confronting the world with who He is and what He has done. Yet the natural response of the human heart is to hold that truth down, to suppress it, to look everywhere else for answers while refusing the one answer that would require us to bow.

The movie ends with an invitation to listen. Scripture has been saying the same thing for centuries, only with far more at stake. When Jesus was transfigured before three of His disciples, the Father’s voice came from heaven and said one thing: hear Him. Not hear every spiritual voice. Not hear impressive teachers or mystical experiences or popular explanations. Hear the Son. He has spoken plainly about sin and the need for repentance. He has spoken plainly about the judgment that is coming. He has spoken plainly about the cross where He bore what sinners deserve and the empty tomb where He defeated death. He has spoken plainly that He alone is the way, the truth, and the life. The question has never been whether God is willing to speak. The question is whether we are willing to listen to the One He has already sent.

There is a disclosure day coming that no movie can invent. Every hidden thing will be brought into the light. Every secret motive, every suppressed truth, and every false comfort will be exposed before the eyes of the God to whom we must give account. Christ will not return quietly. Every eye will see Him. On that day no one will be arguing over whether He exists or whether His words were true. The only question left will be what a person did with the message while it was still being preached.

You do not need another sign from the sky or another file released from some hidden archive. You need to stop suppressing what God has already made known in His Son. The gospel is not secret knowledge reserved for the initiated. It is the public announcement that Christ died for sins according to the Scriptures, that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day. Forgiveness is offered to anyone who turns from sin and trusts Him. That offer stands today. Tomorrow is not guaranteed.

Today, if you will hear His voice, do not harden your heart. The disclosure has already come. The only question left is what you will do with it.

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I went back to your post and read it carefully.

"The question has never been whether God is willing to speak. The question is whether we are willing to listen to the One He has already sent."

This statement is timeless...
 

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And perhaps that is the plan. But it has to align with prophecy, and at this time it's not being fully revealed by God. Bits and pieces we understand like before Jesus comes there will be a worldwide worship or obedience to Satan who will most likely be ruling from Jerusalem.

I think 2 Thessalonians 2 and Revelation 13 are two of the best indicators of how things are going to look. And I thank God that for the elect's sake those days will be shortened.
I think the idea that aliens are like supreme beings fits satans aim to decieve the world and even Christians. Its mainstream and hides the evil of satan by disguising evil as some sort of good that can save the world. Along with supernatural powers that people will be both fearful of and yet in awe with that they will bow down.

I don't think satan will make himself fully known as this would make people realise that he is evil and a liar. So some sort of world ideology such as the possibility of extra terrestials based on material evolution with the answers to our problems. Or powerful humans with knowledge beyond what we can know is the perfect foil.
 
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I think the idea that aliens are like supreme beings fits satans aim to decieve the world and even Christians. Its mainstream and hides the evil of satan by disguising evil as some sort of good that can save the world. Along with supernatural powers that people will be both fearful of and yet in awe with that they will bow down.

I don't think satan will make himself fully known as this would make people realise that he is evil and a liar. So some sort of world ideology such as the possibility of extra terrestials based on material evolution with the answers to our problems. Or powerful humans with knowledge beyond what we can know is the perfect foil.
@Luther7

Let's be CLEAR on this about the fallen angels/aliens.

In fact, they are superior beings and can be considered as 'gods' when compared to mere humans.

2 Peter 2:11

But the angels, who are far greater in power and strength, do not dare to bring from the Lord a charge of blasphemy against those supernatural beings.

English Standard Version
whereas angels, though greater in might and power, do not pronounce a blasphemous judgment against them before the Lord.

Berean Standard Bible
Yet not even angels, though greater in strength and power, dare to bring such slanderous charges against them before the Lord.

Berean Literal Bible
whereas angels, being greater in strength and power, do not bring against them a blasphemous judgment before the Lord.

King James Bible
Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.

New King James Version
whereas angels, who are greater in power and might, do not bring a reviling accusation against them before the Lord.
 

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I think the idea that aliens are like supreme beings fits satans aim to decieve the world and even Christians. Its mainstream and hides the evil of satan by disguising evil as some sort of good that can save the world. Along with supernatural powers that people will be both fearful of and yet in awe with that they will bow down.

I don't think satan will make himself fully known as this would make people realise that he is evil and a liar. So some sort of world ideology such as the possibility of extra terrestials based on material evolution with the answers to our problems. Or powerful humans with knowledge beyond what we can know is the perfect foil.
Many christians understand what you are saying...on the other hand many christians don't have a clue.

I try to imagine what a non-knowing christian on this subject would think if a space craft arrived and the "aliens" came with all the answers...peace, healing, technology, the announcement that they created life on earth and you christians should rethink this God the Father, Jesus and Holy Spirit stuff found in the bible...because this God the Father, Jesus and Holy Spirit was us aliens giving the humans we created something to believe in until we arrived...decide to tell you humans about us.
 

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I like it--you did a great job!

There are a few things that should be clarified, however.

First, it is true that "God spoke to the fathers by the prophets in many different ways, but in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son. That is not one more message added to the pile. It is the final word." However, "these last days" includes what "He has spoken", but does not exclude that He "is the same yesterday, today, and forever." To the contrary, if He "is the same", He "is the same" until "these last days" are completely fulfilled.

Which does not twist or alter what is written, it simply clarifies the full scope of "God with us." Is He with us? Would anyone like to say He is with me, or He is not? Please, by all means--give your witness!

The terms then are "the same" as "yesterday, today (as back then), and forever." Anyone like to say Christ is not the same yesterday, today, and forever?

What does that look like then--like Christ stopped being "the same" after He ascended, or after the twelve stopped writing and died? Who believes that? Well, that is not "forever" is it? Nor is it true that Christ is not even now working among us, being "the same." Is anyone confused about what "forever" means? Would anyone like to say any of that is wrong, or that they have been wrong? Anyone?
Hebrews 13:8 does not mean that God continues giving new revelation in the same way He did through the prophets and apostles. “Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and for ever” means His person, character, authority, and promises do not change. It does not mean every method God used at one time must continue forever.

Hebrews 1:1–2 makes a clear distinction: “God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son.” Christ is God’s complete and climactic revelation. The apostles then bore authoritative witness to Him by the Holy Ghost, and that testimony has been preserved for us in Scripture.

Christ is certainly still with His people and working among us. He said, “Lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world” (Matthew 28:20). But He works through His Spirit according to His written Word, not by giving people new doctrines, new Scripture, or private revelations that must be accepted as God speaking.

The foundation has already been laid: “Built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone” (Ephesians 2:20). A foundation is laid once, not continuously. Jude likewise speaks of “the faith which was once delivered unto the saints” (Jude 3).

Christ has not changed, but that does not mean revelation has not reached its completion. The unchanging Christ still speaks through the Word He has already given. The real question is not whether Christ is working today, but whether what someone claims He is saying can be found and proven from Scripture.
 

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I think the idea that aliens are like supreme beings fits satans aim to decieve the world and even Christians. Its mainstream and hides the evil of satan by disguising evil as some sort of good that can save the world. Along with supernatural powers that people will be both fearful of and yet in awe with that they will bow down.

I don't think satan will make himself fully known as this would make people realise that he is evil and a liar. So some sort of world ideology such as the possibility of extra terrestials based on material evolution with the answers to our problems. Or powerful humans with knowledge beyond what we can know is the perfect foil.

"I don't think satan will make himself fully known as this would make people realise that he is evil and a liar."

That's always a good question to ponder. A person without the Spirit of God can be led to admire a demonic being that gives them what they desire, whether it's physical or spiritual.

Think about all the religious beliefs, some mainstream, that never make people feel uncomfortable. Only the gospel will do that.