Understanding : Hebrews 12:6

[amigo de christo]

Where is that in the Bible? There is much about the Holy Spirit, but I can't think of one place where the Holy Spirit s referred to as an intelligence without a body.

The HOLY SPIRIT is not a g ust of wind that GOD created , as i am sure you know this .
Rather GOD IS SPIRIT and TRUTH
and all who worship him must do so in SPIRIT and IN TRUTH .
The SPIRIT OF GOD AND OF CHRIST . for again the SPIRIT is not TWO spirits , ITS THE SAME ONE SPIRIT
and that OF GOD HIMSELF .
And now a word to remind us all of the most dangerous thing that has come upon
this realm of christendom . ITS known to many as love , as loving , as inclusive and tolerant .
And tolerant and accepting of more and more sins those under it have become .
NOT SO MUCH , however with the BIBLE and words of GOD . No that is beomcing seen more and more as HATE SPEECH .
Wanna know how this is possible .
HOW can one who is saying GOD IS LOVE , and by means of its love be puming a lie , and yet having them believe
it to be the TRUTH and LOVE OF GOD .
HOW SO
ITS KNOWN as A HARLOTS LOVE . come she cries and let us fill our cup with love
But i advise all to not enter into a harlots love . For it is death upon death and it leads them all
to the day of their own destruction .
Satan himself is well known for quoting truths and yet using such to implant a lie .
Again , I WOULD NOT HEED that one either . NEITHER HE or his ecum eincal whore able to save
but rather DESTROY . So lets all bible up again and do beware
for contrary to the mindset of todays lovey do inclusive love harlot love mindset ,
OH YEAH satan can even appear as an angel of light and so too can his minstirs , COME cloaked as men in wool
as men of rigtheousness . we better all be on gaurd . GUARD THINE HEART
BUY THE TRUTH and sell her not . we gots wolves all over christendom and the world who do the bidding
of a well favored HARLOT and sell her love song to the peopples , tribes , false religoins , christendom
and the world . TO UNIFY , TO MERGE THEM ALL as one
under what they will surely beleive IS LOVE , IS OF GOD and IS HIS PLAN FOR WORLD PEACE N SAFETY .
ONLY , it cometh of this one , who by PEACE shall destroy many . shall indeed set up a covenant of peace .
OH , only an anti christ would have done what i seen them do on stage . SO THAT IS WHO ITS LEADING them all as ONE RIGHT TOO .

 

[David Lamb]

and now a lovely word ,
BUT LORD , said his desciples , WHO THEN CAN BE SAVED .
With man this is IMPOSSIBLE
but NOT WITH GOD .
And how did GOD choose to save the world my friend .
FOR It pleased the FATHER that by preaching to SAVE those who BELEIVE .
And now a word .
But sirs what must I DO to be saved .
BELIEVE YE ON JESUS THE CHRIST ....................
So david , i was hoping you could help answer a question , THOUGH I DARN SURE KNOW ITS ANSWER ,
WHY COME or how come do i see me
another god , another jesus , being embraced that not only has made him the great accepter OF SINS
BUT NOW EVEN OF UNBELEIF . cause yoo hoo , yeah its me again , THAT AINT GOD and IT AINT JESUS CHRIST .
NO LIE is of the TRUTH .
And that there ecuemincal message and its intefaith , its love , its peace , OH IT darn sure
has preached another jesus , another god , one that sure seems to have NO problems with any religoin
or certain sins , but just makes the path to GOD SO HUGE and INCLUSIVE . And yoo hoo , THAT DOES NOT
the SPIRIT DO , GOD DO , OR CHRIST DO . but teh devil sure do .

Thanks. I don't really understand your question: "WHY COME or how come do i see me another god , another jesus , being embraced that not only has made him the great accepter OF SINS?" Are you asking why people believe n false gods?

 

[amigo de christo]

Thanks. I don't really understand your question: "WHY COME or how come do i see me another god , another jesus , being embraced that not only has made him the great accepter OF SINS?" Are you asking why people believe n false gods?

No , though it is a false god of course . I am asking us why do i see so many christains
embracing another god , another jesus , a false love , a false peace THEY believe to be of GOD .
And the answer is , THEY HEED NOT THE SPIRIT at all . many have the same faith i used to have ,
KNOWN AS DEAD . who can lip His name and yet follow something else that seems to accept
what they love most . AND IT AINT GOD , TRUTH , or even the LOVE OF GOD . ITS THEIR SIN .
Many have indeed recreated by the doctrines of men a god that sure do seem to love contrary
to the one TRUE GOD . for their love had them not correct sins and errors but rather leave them in sin and error
which then in time led to acceptance of certain sins and is now leading them to the acceptance of even UNBELEIF in JESUS .
What we have is a delusion going on my friend .
AND THIS delusion is a strong one too . IT came cloaked as love and loving , it came claoked
as though of GOD himself . But rather odd is THE FACT that its love SURE DONT SEEM to rejoice in TRUTH
but rather in inquity . And man has it made the way to GOD very darn broad , as it now accepts sins and UNBELIEF
and now all religoins are counted as children of the same GOD as a christain . A LIE OF COURSE .
A cliam being made that ALL religoins actually are and do WORSHIP the same GOD we christains do . A LIE OF COURSE .
AND GUESS WHO and what JUST GOT DENIED by that love ecumeincal intefaith plan .
WHY JESUS DID , THE GOSPEL of YE MUST BELIEVE N HIM , DID . ONLY an anti christ would do such a thing .
And that is who these anti christs dressed in wool do led the false religoins and much of christendom RIGHT TOO as one man .

 

[David Lamb]

The HOLY SPIRIT is not a g ust of wind that GOD created , as i am sure you know this .
Rather GOD IS SPIRIT and TRUTH
and all who worship him must do so in SPIRIT and IN TRUTH .
The SPIRIT OF GOD AND OF CHRIST . for again the SPIRIT is not TWO spirits , ITS THE SAME ONE SPIRIT
and that OF GOD HIMSELF .
And now a word to remind us all of the most dangerous thing that has come upon
this realm of christendom . ITS known to many as love , as loving , as inclusive and tolerant .
And tolerant and accepting of more and more sins those under it have become .
NOT SO MUCH , however with the BIBLE and words of GOD . No that is beomcing seen more and more as HATE SPEECH .
Wanna know how this is possible .
HOW can one who is saying GOD IS LOVE , and by means of its love be puming a lie , and yet having them believe
it to be the TRUTH and LOVE OF GOD .
HOW SO
ITS KNOWN as A HARLOTS LOVE . come she cries and let us fill our cup with love
But i advise all to not enter into a harlots love . For it is death upon death and it leads them all
to the day of their own destruction .
Satan himself is well known for quoting truths and yet using such to implant a lie .
Again , I WOULD NOT HEED that one either . NEITHER HE or his ecum eincal whore able to save
but rather DESTROY . So lets all bible up again and do beware
for contrary to the mindset of todays lovey do inclusive love harlot love mindset ,
OH YEAH satan can even appear as an angel of light and so too can his minstirs , COME cloaked as men in wool
as men of rigtheousness . we better all be on gaurd . GUARD THINE HEART
BUY THE TRUTH and sell her not . we gots wolves all over christendom and the world who do the bidding
of a well favored HARLOT and sell her love song to the peopples , tribes , false religoins , christendom
and the world . TO UNIFY , TO MERGE THEM ALL as one
under what they will surely beleive IS LOVE , IS OF GOD and IS HIS PLAN FOR WORLD PEACE N SAFETY .
ONLY , it cometh of this one , who by PEACE shall destroy many . shall indeed set up a covenant of peace .
OH , only an anti christ would have done what i seen them do on stage . SO THAT IS WHO ITS LEADING them all as ONE RIGHT TOO .

I agree that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit Of God the Father and of Christ. I was replying to a post that claimed the HS is an intelligence.

 

[David Lamb]

No , though it is a false god of course . I am asking us why do i see so many christains
embracing another god , another jesus , a false love , a false peace THEY believe to be of GOD .
And the answer is , THEY HEED NOT THE SPIRIT at all . many have the same faith i used to have ,
KNOWN AS DEAD . who can lip His name and yet follow something else that seems to accept
what they love most . AND IT AINT GOD , TRUTH , or even the LOVE OF GOD . ITS THEIR SIN .
Many have indeed recreated by the doctrines of men a god that sure do seem to love contrary
to the one TRUE GOD . for their love had them not correct sins and errors but rather leave them in sin and error
which then in time led to acceptance of certain sins and is now leading them to the acceptance of even UNBELEIF in JESUS .
What we have is a delusion going on my friend .
AND THIS delusion is a strong one too . IT came cloaked as love and loving , it came claoked
as though of GOD himself . But rather odd is THE FACT that its love SURE DONT SEEM to rejoice in TRUTH
but rather in inquity . And man has it made the way to GOD very darn broad , as it now accepts sins and UNBELIEF
and now all religoins are counted as children of the same GOD as a christain . A LIE OF COURSE .
A cliam being made that ALL religoins actually are and do WORSHIP the same GOD we christains do . A LIE OF COURSE .
AND GUESS WHO and what JUST GOT DENIED by that love ecumeincal intefaith plan .
WHY JESUS DID , THE GOSPEL of YE MUST BELIEVE N HIM , DID . ONLY an anti christ would do such a thing .
And that is who these anti christs dressed in wool do led the false religoins and much of christendom RIGHT TOO as one man .

If someone is embracing another God, they are not really a Christian.

 

[amigo de christo]

I agree that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit Of God the Father and of Christ. I was replying to a post that claimed the HS is an intelligence.

yeah i knew you did . It was why i said as i am sure you know this .
But what you may or may NOT know is
A HARLOTS LOVE has come upon much of even christendom now
and under the guise it be the LOVE of GOD . And by her love she has made acceptance of sins
and NOW EVEN UNBELIEF as just fine WITH GOD . ONLY that love , IT JUST REJOICED IN A FAT LIE .
And charity does no such thing .
IT rejoices ONLY IN TRUTH , NOT in quity . and a lie IS inquity as is sin and as is UNBELIEF IN JESUS .
YET its pumping this out to them all as though it were of GOD
and it gathers them all with the false religoins and tribes of the earth
TO become as one people , under one god , one love , and one peace plan of an anti christ ,
which they will believe IS ALL OF GOD . that my friend is a harlots love .
AND were we not warned
that any who has the LOVE of the world has NOT THE LOVE OF THE FATHER .
Oh but we were warned , BY THE SPIRIT and BY THE WORDS IN SAID BIBLE . SO i do make the call yet again
For us all to get back into the bible and to beware the all inclusive love of an ecumenical harlot and her anti christ
peace plan known as INTERFAITH .
Now since i DO love the peoples and do not desire their death and destruction , THAT IS WHY i warn them GET OUT OF THIS NOW .

 

[William Barton]

Where is that in the Bible? There is much about the Holy Spirit, but I can't think of one place where the Holy Spirit s referred to as an intelligence without a body.

How about "the invisible God" (Colossians 1:15).

Jesus is God taking a human form. This called "incarnation," stemming from Latin:

in
+
carnis = flesh

i.e. "in the flesh."

 

[amigo de christo]

If someone is embracing another God, they are not really a Christian.

BINGO .
And now another word . And you need to pray and ponder on this my friend , as we all should .
CAN a man , a woman , LOVE GOD if they LOVE NOT HIS CHRIST . NO SIR they do not
FOR had they LOVED GOD they had LOVED CHRIST for HE CAME FORTH OF GOD .
can a man or a woman love JESUS and yet despise and twist and omit some of HIS WORDS , HIS SAYINGS
and again the answer is
HE WHO LOVES ME KEEPS MY SAYINGS .
HE who loves not me keeps NOT my sayings .
Can a man love GOD whom he has never seen , IF HE HATE THE TRUTH of HIS WORDS .
NO sir .
What is the fruit of the SPIRIT .
It is in all righteousness , godliness , and TRUTH . proving what is acceptable to GOD , NOT a changing generation or the world .
We are in far worse trouble than many even know . MANY now are embracing a lie that only an anti christ would have made .
And it darn sure has DENIED the gospel of JESUS THE CHRIST whereby if one believes they would be saved .
They are all being prepared by this inclusive god , who is satan , though they t hinks its GOD ,
and it leads them all into the greatest hour of rebellion against GOD , CHRIST and the saints .
ONLY again they think it be the will of GOD they follow and his peace plan .
NOPE . And soon enough when this inclusive god has handed all power to his beast
and by this powerful AI LED , IMAGE SPEAKING LED , DIGITAL SYSTEM
Will unleash the worship this inclusive god or else sentence upon the world .
And then any and all who are deemed as non loving , as non inclusive , as offenders
and yes as even potential terroists , as mis and dis information givers ,
OH THEY SHUT OUT OF SYSTEM and They hunted world wide . ITS ALL coming to a peak in this hour david .
AND the cry is BE FAITHFUL UNTO CHRIST no matter the cost , no matter if we lose all , no matter if prison
or e ven death is pronounced against us . Now to the trenches cause this can sure enough kick off
WAY sooner than most realize .

 

[Behold]

If we couldn’t remove Christ from ourselves, Scripture wouldn’t tell us to endure to the end.

Your verse in Matt 24 is not talking to Christians.
Its a Prophetic verse, giving by a PROPHET Named Jesus.......(Yes He was also had that capacity) and your verse is describing the situation that someone will find themselves in, when the "abomination of desolation" is found.

And when is that found?.......its found during the GREAT TRIB..........that is the 2nd part of the 7 Yr Trib.

So, Jesus is explaining that if you find yourself there, then you have to "endure to the end".. of the Great Trib, as a part of what will be required to gain heaven.
Currently you dont have to endure anything......to be saved........You only have to trust in Christ "by FAITH".

 

[William Barton]

I would say that Jesus died, not to give us a chance to redeem ourselves, but to redeem us:

(1Pe 1:18-19 NKJV) knowing that you were not redeemed with corruptible things, like silver or gold, from your aimless conduct received by tradition from your fathers, but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot.

The angel said to Joseph:

(Mat 1:20-21 NKJV) "Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit. And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name JESUS, for He will save His people from their sins."

Not " for He will enable His people to save themselves."

David Lamb noted:
<to redeem us>

IMO:
o The Bible indicates that more than half the people who have ever lived will go to hell when they die (Matthew 7:23-14).

o The Bible indicates that Jesus paid the price for those who believe in him (John 3:16).

o. Jesus said, "No man comes to me unless the Father draws him" (John 6:44).

 

[Wrangler]

Your verse in Matt 24 is not talking to Christians.

LOL

 

[David Lamb]

yeah i knew you did . It was why i said as i am sure you know this .
But what you may or may NOT know is
A HARLOTS LOVE has come upon much of even christendom now
and under the guise it be the LOVE of GOD . And by her love she has made acceptance of sins
and NOW EVEN UNBELIEF as just fine WITH GOD . ONLY that love , IT JUST REJOICED IN A FAT LIE .
And charity does no such thing .
IT rejoices ONLY IN TRUTH , NOT in quity . and a lie IS inquity as is sin and as is UNBELIEF IN JESUS .
YET its pumping this out to them all as though it were of GOD
and it gathers them all with the false religoins and tribes of the earth
TO become as one people , under one god , one love , and one peace plan of an anti christ ,
which they will believe IS ALL OF GOD . that my friend is a harlots love .
AND were we not warned
that any who has the LOVE of the world has NOT THE LOVE OF THE FATHER .
Oh but we were warned , BY THE SPIRIT and BY THE WORDS IN SAID BIBLE . SO i do make the call yet again
For us all to get back into the bible and to beware the all inclusive love of an ecumenical harlot and her anti christ
peace plan known as INTERFAITH .
Now since i DO love the peoples and do not desire their death and destruction , THAT IS WHY i warn them GET OUT OF THIS NOW .

I agree that it is very important for all Christians and all churches to believe those things God reveals in His word, the Bible. There are some who would rather have organic unity than Biblical truth, some follow the prosperity gospel, and so on. May God bring them to Hs truth, or back to His truth.

 

[Wrangler]

If you get charged with a crime, and you are fined by an amount of money you cannot pay, and someone pays it for you out of kindness

No court allows this.

 

[William Barton]

I would say that Jesus died, not to give us a chance to redeem ourselves, but to redeem us:

(1Pe 1:18-19 NKJV) knowing that you were not redeemed with corruptible things, like silver or gold, from your aimless conduct received by tradition from your fathers, but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot.

The angel said to Joseph:

(Mat 1:20-21 NKJV) "Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit. And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name JESUS, for He will save His people from their sins."

Not " for He will enable His people to save themselves."

IMO:
We redeem ourselves by accepting the offer:

For God so loved the world, that He gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever *believes* in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16

On a higher level, God the Father draws us (John 6:44).

 

[Marvelloustime]

BINGO .
And now another word . And you need to pray and ponder on this my friend , as we all should .
CAN a man , a woman , LOVE GOD if they LOVE NOT HIS CHRIST . NO SIR they do not
FOR had they LOVED GOD they had LOVED CHRIST for HE CAME FORTH OF GOD .
can a man or a woman love JESUS and yet despise and twist and omit some of HIS WORDS , HIS SAYINGS
and again the answer is
HE WHO LOVES ME KEEPS MY SAYINGS .
HE who loves not me keeps NOT my sayings .
Can a man love GOD whom he has never seen , IF HE HATE THE TRUTH of HIS WORDS .
NO sir .
What is the fruit of the SPIRIT .
It is in all righteousness , godliness , and TRUTH . proving what is acceptable to GOD , NOT a changing generation or the world .
We are in far worse trouble than many even know . MANY now are embracing a lie that only an anti christ would have made .
And it darn sure has DENIED the gospel of JESUS THE CHRIST whereby if one believes they would be saved .
They are all being prepared by this inclusive god , who is satan , though they t hinks its GOD ,
and it leads them all into the greatest hour of rebellion against GOD , CHRIST and the saints .
ONLY again they think it be the will of GOD they follow and his peace plan .
NOPE . And soon enough when this inclusive god has handed all power to his beast
and by this powerful AI LED , IMAGE SPEAKING LED , DIGITAL SYSTEM
Will unleash the worship this inclusive god or else sentence upon the world .
And then any and all who are deemed as non loving , as non inclusive , as offenders
and yes as even potential terroists , as mis and dis information givers ,
OH THEY SHUT OUT OF SYSTEM and They hunted world wide . ITS ALL coming to a peak in this hour david .
AND the cry is BE FAITHFUL UNTO CHRIST no matter the cost , no matter if we lose all , no matter if prison
or e ven death is pronounced against us . Now to the trenches cause this can sure enough kick off
WAY sooner than most realize .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

No , though it is a false god of course . I am asking us why do i see so many christains
embracing another god , another jesus , a false love , a false peace THEY believe to be of GOD .
And the answer is , THEY HEED NOT THE SPIRIT at all . many have the same faith i used to have ,
KNOWN AS DEAD . who can lip His name and yet follow something else that seems to accept
what they love most . AND IT AINT GOD , TRUTH , or even the LOVE OF GOD . ITS THEIR SIN .
Many have indeed recreated by the doctrines of men a god that sure do seem to love contrary
to the one TRUE GOD . for their love had them not correct sins and errors but rather leave them in sin and error
which then in time led to acceptance of certain sins and is now leading them to the acceptance of even UNBELEIF in JESUS .
What we have is a delusion going on my friend .
AND THIS delusion is a strong one too . IT came cloaked as love and loving , it came claoked
as though of GOD himself . But rather odd is THE FACT that its love SURE DONT SEEM to rejoice in TRUTH
but rather in inquity . And man has it made the way to GOD very darn broad , as it now accepts sins and UNBELIEF
and now all religoins are counted as children of the same GOD as a christain . A LIE OF COURSE .
A cliam being made that ALL religoins actually are and do WORSHIP the same GOD we christains do . A LIE OF COURSE .
AND GUESS WHO and what JUST GOT DENIED by that love ecumeincal intefaith plan .
WHY JESUS DID , THE GOSPEL of YE MUST BELIEVE N HIM , DID . ONLY an anti christ would do such a thing .
And that is who these anti christs dressed in wool do led the false religoins and much of christendom RIGHT TOO as one man .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

The HOLY SPIRIT is not a g ust of wind that GOD created , as i am sure you know this .
Rather GOD IS SPIRIT and TRUTH
and all who worship him must do so in SPIRIT and IN TRUTH .
The SPIRIT OF GOD AND OF CHRIST . for again the SPIRIT is not TWO spirits , ITS THE SAME ONE SPIRIT
and that OF GOD HIMSELF .
And now a word to remind us all of the most dangerous thing that has come upon
this realm of christendom . ITS known to many as love , as loving , as inclusive and tolerant .
And tolerant and accepting of more and more sins those under it have become .
NOT SO MUCH , however with the BIBLE and words of GOD . No that is beomcing seen more and more as HATE SPEECH .
Wanna know how this is possible .
HOW can one who is saying GOD IS LOVE , and by means of its love be puming a lie , and yet having them believe
it to be the TRUTH and LOVE OF GOD .
HOW SO
ITS KNOWN as A HARLOTS LOVE . come she cries and let us fill our cup with love
But i advise all to not enter into a harlots love . For it is death upon death and it leads them all
to the day of their own destruction .
Satan himself is well known for quoting truths and yet using such to implant a lie .
Again , I WOULD NOT HEED that one either . NEITHER HE or his ecum eincal whore able to save
but rather DESTROY . So lets all bible up again and do beware
for contrary to the mindset of todays lovey do inclusive love harlot love mindset ,
OH YEAH satan can even appear as an angel of light and so too can his minstirs , COME cloaked as men in wool
as men of rigtheousness . we better all be on gaurd . GUARD THINE HEART
BUY THE TRUTH and sell her not . we gots wolves all over christendom and the world who do the bidding
of a well favored HARLOT and sell her love song to the peopples , tribes , false religoins , christendom
and the world . TO UNIFY , TO MERGE THEM ALL as one
under what they will surely beleive IS LOVE , IS OF GOD and IS HIS PLAN FOR WORLD PEACE N SAFETY .
ONLY , it cometh of this one , who by PEACE shall destroy many . shall indeed set up a covenant of peace .
OH , only an anti christ would have done what i seen them do on stage . SO THAT IS WHO ITS LEADING them all as ONE RIGHT TOO .

@amigo de christo

 

[Behold]

LOL

Listen.

In Matt 24, where you find all the little bible noobs playing around with "enduring"........its because they dont understand that until Jesus died on The Cross, = the NT Church, = (the body of Christ) = (Christianity) was not yet begun.
See, The Cross of Christ birthed Christianity, as it didn't exist until Jesus DIED as God's Sacrifice..... John 3:16. John 3:17

Now, 3 Chapters later, in Matt 27= Christ is Crucified and the NT Church......."CHRISTIANITY", .... actually and literally began.

So, because there were no Christians yet created by THE Cross of Christ in Matt 24......then when you read about "enduring to the end".........you can't apply this to a Christian, and be Theologically or Scripturally correct , tho Heretics always try to do it.

A.) But you can apply that verse to the Grt Trib, as Jesus did.

Its really that simple @Wrangler .

 

[Wrangler]

Its really that simple @Wrangler .

You speak in complicated, contradictory circles, then pronounce its simple.

 

[Behold]

You speak in complicated, contradictory circles, then pronounce its simple.

Its not complicated unless the person never opens a bible, and they spend all their time on Forum.........or, reading commentarie and online religious sites., @Wrangler.

Listen,

Jesus was not just The Messiah, He was a preacher, a teacher, a Prophet, and a KING.
He's also the KINGDOM OF GOD..........and that is why when we are "in Christ" we are in the KOG>.

Sometimes, He spoke prophetically about what was going to happen 2000 yrs after He died.
And let us recall that Christ told the Jews that they were going to be destroyed after He was gone. (AD 70 happened).
So, is that verse for the "body of Christ". ?????????????????

NO.

And likewise, He taught on the Tribulation.......and told us that the Anti-Christ is going to build this "i am god" monument to Himself, at the 3.5 yr point that begins the GREAT Trib.
Jesus defined this monument as the "abomination of desolation"....so, that is Matt 24, and we see that this happens in the TRIB.....3.5 yrs into it.
So, in that Context.........where Jesus is talking about "enduring to the end".......He is also defining WHEN that is to happen.......by describing the ""Abomination of Desolation"" that happens during the GREAT TRIB.
This means that Jesus is connecting the "enduring to the END".....with a situation that we know happens during the Great TRIBULATiON Period.

Also........ No Christian will be there.........as they will all be Raptured before the Trib starts.

Reader, the TRIB is for the JEWS.........not for the Church.
This is why when you read about the 144,000 JEWS who stand up in the TRIB........you can't find a Christian Preacher anywhere, and that is because they have all been RAPTURED.

Also.......No Christian has to Endure anything to become a Christian....as Salvaton is a GIFT from God..
Salvation is JESUS on THE CROSS.........and you dont endure something to receive HIM, and you dont endure anything to keep HIM.