Are you guys happy with the recent Iran agreement ending the war?

[Jack]

I think you missed this.I will repeat:

While you and many others were taught that the "jews" of our day receive something other than the greatest gift, SALVATION, talmudic, zionist jews are using your ignorance of scripture to further their anti-chrst kingdom in which all non- jews will serve them.

This is what their religion teaches.

You are supporting a demonic tribe that has it's roots in ancient Babylon

Won't it be interesting when you stand before the Lord God of Israel on Judgment Day!

Luke 1:68
68 "Blessed is the Lord God of Israel, For He has visited and redeemed His people,

That's where the disobedient Israelites got their religion from. The Pharisees passed it on to the rabbis. The God of the Bible, the only One True God, condemned ancient Israel and destroyed their temple. He gave them many opportunities to repent and then when Jesus Christ came in the flesh that was the last chance for THE NATION.
Now it's just a remnant of " jews" that will be saved.

Listen carefully: The future promise for Israel was fulfilled in Jesus Christ. There is no more special promises after Christ. You either repent and believe or you die in your sins. Those in power who have murdered hundreds of thousands of innocents since 1947 must repent.

For you to actually believe ( if you do) that an IDF soldier using a child for target practice is promised a future kingdom, then you are not in Christ, or you are a jew thinking that this exchange is funny.

No Scripture? Of course not! I have plenty.

Genesis 12:3 I will curse him who curses you;

Want me to quote the curse of God for you? It ain't pretty!

 

[Luther7]

Won't it be interesting when you stand before the Lord God of Israel on Judgment Day!

Luke 1:68
68 "Blessed is the Lord God of Israel, For He has visited and redeemed His people,

No Scripture? Of course not! I have plenty.

Genesis 12:3 I will curse him who curses you;

Want me to quote the curse of God for you? It ain't pretty!

The promise of eternal inheritance ( eternal life in the New Jerusalem , heaven) belongs to each and every person that believes in Jesus Christ before He comes to end this world in fiery judgement.

Galatians 3:16 KJV
Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Genesis 12:3 KJV
And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Galatians 3:13-14,29 KJV
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

[14] That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. [

29] And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

The seed of Christ is blessed as heirs of salvation.
Isaiah 43:5-7 KJV
Fear not: for I am with thee: I will bring thy seed from the east, and gather thee from the west;
[6] I will say to the north, Give up; and to the south, Keep not back: bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth;
[7] Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.

Come, Lord Jesus.

 

[Jack]

The promise of eternal inheritance ( eternal life in the New Jerusalem , heaven) belongs to each and every person that believes in Jesus Christ before He comes to end this world in fiery judgement.

Galatians 3:16 KJV
Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Genesis 12:3 KJV
And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Galatians 3:13-14,29 KJV
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

[14] That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. [

29] And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

The seed of Christ is blessed as heirs of salvation.
Isaiah 43:5-7 KJV
Fear not: for I am with thee: I will bring thy seed from the east, and gather thee from the west;
[6] I will say to the north, Give up; and to the south, Keep not back: bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth;
[7] Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.

Come, Lord Jesus.

" You are supporting a demonic tribe that has it's roots in ancient Babylon"

Are you sure your bible teachers aren't the ones who are 'demonic'?

You still don't have a clue where Jesus will return and FIGHT for! Get a map. It's ISRAEL, in the Land of the Bible that you called "a demonic tribe"!

Zechariah 14:1-4
1 Behold, the day of the LORD is coming, ...
2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
3 Then the LORD will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle.
4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east.

God called them "My people Israel". You called them "demonic". You really should repent.

 

[Marymog]

Not true. The most fascinating people on earth are jews. I've done some decent research over the last 4 years when a brother in the Lord explained to me who these people really are and all of the atrocities that have been committed by them.I was in shock. I vowed never to lay everything down at once to someone. You could go into shock. Or like most people, they ignore everything they've heard... angrily.

So Mary I am going to give you a synopsis. There is so much to find out. There are two very popular sayings out there which most people might never consider or ponder:

1) If you want to know who rules over you, find out or learn who you cannot criticize.

2) EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

When something is said in a critical way about jews, our first reaction is to defend these people and consider them innocent victims that had lost their way with God but will be restored to a new kingdom just because they're jews.

Well Mary, they are jews in name only. There are no true descendants from ancient Israel alive today. That's an impossibility when you consider all of the mixing with other nations which goes all the way back to the time of Moses. It's just impossible. And even if there was a trace of Hebrew DNA found in them, to what significance is it? It means nothing to God. He is looking at our faith now, not who we are.
Also, any evidence or records of ancestry were all destroyed in the temple when Israel was destined 70AD, never to become a nation again. That's what the Bible stresses over and over again. If those genealogies were that important I would assume that God would preserve them.

The greatest deception of all is being under the spell that Israel 1948 is a fulfillment of prophecy, blessed by God. Neither are true. God knew that these people would manipulate other countries and political relationships to acquire that land, but it certainly did have His blessing. The prophecy is all about the spiritual seed of Abraham ( which is Christ ) inheriting the land (heaven) forever. That's what the Old Testament prophecies point us to.

These people are not " jews". You have to start there or you will forever be spellbound in this fantasy doctrine of a future kingdom which the rabbis in the last 150 years indoctrinated the churches with.
Remember, In scripture Satan will be given a short lived opportunity to rule as God. Throughout history he needed a dedicated group of people to prepare the world for this final event. With the development of judaism, the plan to accommodate his last days kingdom began to take shape.

The Pharisees represented the spiritual leadership of Israel. They taught from the oral teachings of the Babylonian talmud, which perverts the scriptures. Eventually after rejecting Christ and crucifying Him ( God incarnate), they went on to complete this Babylonian religion in its written form, approximately by 200- 500 AD. During this time in history, the Pharisees (now called " rabbis") and faithful followers of this new religion (judaism) were bringing it into other nations.

[ We must keep in mind that Israel is Symbolically the body of Christ. And those Jews that believed on Jesus at that time became CHRISTIANS. they now belong to the "ISRAEL OF GOD", as anyone who believes in Jesus. So yes, there are some Jews today who reject judaism and even some of them will become saved. And they no longer fuss over their "heritage" and " traditions" but are now focused on the ONE who fulfilled those shadows of things to come. AMEN. ]

Eastern Europe was literally the birthplace of the jews of today. Most of these converts are arguably descendants of Ashkenaz, the Grandson of Japeth, A son of Noah. This I truly believe is the " unofficial" reason why 80% of jews today are called " Ashkenazi" jews. They call themselves " jews" (descendants of Shem),
but are not. They are not from the 12 tribes from the offspring of Shem ( where we get the word " semite"). It's so funny that they practically criminalize someone for showing "signs" of " anti- semitism" and they aren't even semites themselves.

To answer your questions,
1) Jews as a nation of people are cursed without Christ and have sadly, sadly followed their teachers in doctrines that reject the one true God. And I must say they do not have a favorable view of everyone else ( Goyim) in this world.
2) Jews individually, from any aspect of their religious or political views CAN BE SAVED. That's the good news.
3) But I must be honest with you. The ones who are working for Satan ( along with the non- jews who answer to them), the ones with the immense wealth and power have literally been the reason why this world has seen so many atrocities and so much suffering. They are the "supremecists ", who really can't be stopped.

Only Jesus Christ can do that. We must warn others while patiently waiting for our Lord's Return.

Thank you and God bless you.

What are some of the good things Isreal and the Jewish people bring to this world?

 

[Marymog]

Not true. The most fascinating people on earth are jews. I've done some decent research over the last 4 years when a brother in the Lord explained to me who these people really are and all of the atrocities that have been committed by them.I was in shock. I vowed never to lay everything down at once to someone. You could go into shock. Or like most people, they ignore everything they've heard... angrily.



Thank you and God bless you.

Put me in "shock".

You don't have to type out all the "atrocities" they have committed. Just provide some links to back up your assertion for me to read.

BTW......Christians have committed some "atrocities" also that "shock" the senses. Does that make us the same as the Jews?

Patient Mary

 

[Luther7]

" You are supporting a demonic tribe that has it's roots in ancient Babylon"

Are you sure your bible teachers aren't the ones who are 'demonic'?

You still don't have a clue where Jesus will return and FIGHT for! Get a map. It's ISRAEL, in the Land of the Bible that you called "a demonic tribe"!

Zechariah 14:1-4
1 Behold, the day of the LORD is coming, ...
2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
3 Then the LORD will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle.
4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east.

God called them "My people Israel". You called them "demonic". You really should repent.

Nope. Because I know that Ashkenazi jews, which make up roughly 80% of the inhabitants of Israel, aren't semites. They are Eastern European CONVERTS to judaism. Remember, you can convert to their religion and not have the slightest ancestry with ancient Israel ( which by the way is impossible, since the Hebrew race has been mixing with other nations since the time of Moses. There is no one out there that can say they have any significant ties with ancient Israel.

And God is not calling Israelis " my people Israel" That's crazy.

 

[Jack]

Nope. Because I know that Ashkenazi jews, which make up roughly 80% of the inhabitants of Israel, aren't semites. They are Eastern European CONVERTS to judaism. Remember, you can convert to their religion and not have the slightest ancestry with ancient Israel ( which by the way is impossible, since the Hebrew race has been mixing with other nations since the time of Moses. There is no one out there that can say they have any significant ties with ancient Israel.

And God is not calling Israelis " my people Israel" That's crazy.

Oh, God's crazy now?

Amos 9:14-15
14 I will bring back the captives of My people Israel; ...
15 I will plant them in their land, And no longer shall they be pulled up From the land I have given them," Says the LORD your God.

And you can't change it!

 

[Luther7]

Oh, God's crazy now?

Amos 9:14-15
14 I will bring back the captives of My people Israel; ...
15 I will plant them in their land, And no longer shall they be pulled up From the land I have given them," Says the LORD your God.

And you can't change it!

All of this prophetic language in the Old Testament is fulfilled in Jesus Christ and His people. This is parabolic, symbolic or spiritual language. It all points to heaven.

 

[Luther7]

Put me in "shock".

You don't have to type out all the "atrocities" they have committed. Just provide some links to back up your assertion for me to read.

BTW......Christians have committed some "atrocities" also that "shock" the senses. Does that make us the same as the Jews?

Patient Mary

True born again Christians do not commit atrocities. Let's clear that up.

 

[Jack]

All of this prophetic language in the Old Testament is fulfilled in Jesus Christ and His people. This is parabolic, symbolic or spiritual language. It all points to heaven.

Well maybe John 3:16 is only parabolic, or symbolic for you. You sound like JW.

 

[Luther7]

Well maybe John 3:16 is only parabolic, or symbolic for you. You sound like JW.

The Bible is a book of Historical, Moral and spiritual teachings. The Holy Spirit guides us into all spiritual things. The Old testament and the book of Revelation are chock full of spiritual nuggets of truth. Many teachers throughout church history will testify of this, including the "church fathers".

 

[Jack]

The Bible is a book of Historical, Moral and spiritual teachings. The Holy Spirit guides us into all spiritual things. The Old testament and the book of Revelation are chock full of spiritual nuggets of truth. Many teachers throughout church history will testify of this, including the "church fathers".

Spiritual, parable, symbolic, are commonly used terms by JW's when they don't like what God said.

 

[Luther7]

What are some of the good things Isreal and the Jewish people bring to this world?

I don't have an answer for that . Can you help me?

 

[Jack]

Sit back and watch God bless Israel again and again and again!

 

[Marymog]

I don't have an answer for that . Can you help me?

Like I said in post #146:

I have this deep-down feeling in my gut you won't answer......

 

[Marymog]

True born again Christians do not commit atrocities. Let's clear that up.

Lol......And who is the judge on who is a "true born Christian"? YOU?

 

[Boaz1982]

Sit back and watch God bless Israel again and again and again!

Again, Israel is not necessarily the main focus of this discussion - the USA and Iran are waging war against each other without direct Israeli interference at this moment.

What gives me some pause about this current war is not just the lives lost on both sides, but the seeming lack of coherent strategy in the conflict. Either we give them the strait, or spend billions and billions bombing them but failing to break their resolve. Neither option is really good at this point.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/01/world/middleeast/us-iran-war-strategy.html

There was an online comment on a Ben Shapiro video recently that really resonated with me:
"The biggest problem is that we don't go to war. We do this weird half speed war that extends longer than it needs to and doesn't accomplish anything."

 

[markalan]

What are some of the good things Isreal and the Jewish people bring to this world?

List of Israeli inventions and discoveries - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Science and technology in Israel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

List of Israeli Nobel laureates - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Jack]

Again, Israel is not necessarily the main focus of this discussion - the USA and Iran are waging war against each other without direct Israeli interference at this moment.

Iran is Israel's worst enemy. Of course Israel is the main focus. God is using the US to fight for Israel! Just as God used Musk to BLESS Israel's military BIG TIME!

 

[Boaz1982]

Some of the previous times Trump has threatened and later called off strikes on Iran​

By Catherine Nicholls

US President Donald Trump walks to board Air Force One at Morristown Municipal Airport in Morristown, New Jersey, on Sunday.
Jacquelyn Martin/AP
US President Donald Trump claimed yesterday that the Strait of Hormuz would be reopened “soon,” warning that if this did not happen, the US would hit Iran “really hard.”
The comments were the most recent threats from Trump since he announced on Saturday that he called off planned strikes on Iran.
His apparent reversal was not the first time during the conflict he’d threatened attacks before calling them off.
Here’s a look at some of the previous times this has happened:

• On March 21, Trump said the US would “hit and obliterate” Iranian power plants if Tehran did not reopen the Strait of Hormuz within 48 hours. On March 23, shortly before Trump’s deadline was set to expire, the president said the US and Iran had held “productive conversations” and that he would hold off on striking energy sites for five days.
• On April 7, Trump warned that “a whole civilization will die tonight” if Iran did not agree to end the war and reopen the Strait of Hormuz. Hours later, a two-week ceasefire between the countries was announced.
• On April 21, the day before the ceasefire was set to expire, Trump said he expected “to be bombing” if negotiators couldn’t reach a deal. Later that day, he extended the ceasefire.
• On May 17, Trump warned that “for Iran, the Clock is Ticking, and they better get moving, FAST, or there won’t be anything left of them.” The next day, he said that he would “hold off” on a plan to attack Iran, citing a request from Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.
• On June 11, Trump said that the US military would be hitting Iran “VERY HARD TONIGHT,” adding that it would also “be taking Kharg Island, and other oil infrastructure points.” Hours later, Trump said he was canceling the strikes because “final points” of an agreement between the two sides had been approved.
• On August 1, Trump said the US was “locked and loaded and ready” to attack Iran “at levels of Military Terror, Strength, and Power not seen since World War II.” Despite this, he said, “I have agreed, for the future benefit of the WORLD and, likewise, the survival of a successful and prosperous Iran, to cancel the attack, subject to being able to rapidly make a DEAL.”
  

my point is that the President's strategy seems to be really unfocused and back and forth, as if he himself is NOT sure whether he truly wants peace or war.