Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

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Earburner

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You still miss the point....even if Jesus returns in this symbolic way...Jesus didn't leave in this symbolic way.

Jesus left not riding a white horse and with no symbolism.
Miss the point?? I don't think so!
Jesus entered the world riding a Donkey, symbolizing humility and servanthood.
(Yep! Nothing to notice here). And that was God's point!!

The reason WHY Jesus' first manifestation in mortal flesh was so quietly revealed was because for years, God the Father was attempting to keep His Son's mortal entrance into the world a secret. Rom. 16:25

Jesus was coming to us as "the [sacrificial] Lamb of God".
If they, who were of the world, knew that Jesus was the Savior of the world, NO one of the world would've allowed Him to be killed.
1 Corinthians 2:8
Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

Therefore, if Jesus wasn't slain/murdered, and simply was allowed to live out his mortal life and then died a natural death, there would've been NO permanent lasting Sacrifice for God's forgiveness of OUR SINS.

So, for Jesus to be shown returning on a white horse, it is symbolic of being victorious and having great power and authority.
 
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David in NJ

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Like I said it’s circumstantial evidence and it can’t be proven.

You say not applicable based on your Bible reading experiences and I say highly likely based on my Bible reading experiences.
You want to arm wrestle this one out?
 

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Your PINNED = It is NOT the disciples , not even close!!!

Think my brother = think Truth on this concerning the whites clouds and the white horse.

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Clouds are easy and not up to interpretation. It’s either literal clouds and we know it’s not because Revelation says it’s given in signs.

There’s only one other type of clouds in the Bible.

Heb 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

Or one other option which it certainly is not.

2Pe 2:17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
 

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Clouds are easy and not up to interpretation. It’s either literal clouds and we know it’s not because Revelation says it’s given in signs.

There’s only one other type of clouds in the Bible.

Heb 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

Or one other option which it certainly is not.

2Pe 2:17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
Well, certainly NOT 2 Peter 2:17

@CrowCross, you want to get in on this as it is a Monumental Revelation from the Gospel and Revelation
 
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So, for Jesus to be shown returning on a white horse is symbolic of being victorious and having great power and authority.
Let me splain sometin to you Lucy...

When Jesus left for heaven in the ascension...Jesus didn't leave in the display of having great power and authority like Jesus will have when He returns like presented in Rev 19.

The reason why is because Jesus returns twice.
 
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David in NJ

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Let me splain sometin to you Lucy...

When Jesus left for heaven in the ascension...Jesus didn't leave in the display of having great power and authority like Jesus will have when He returns like presented in Rev 19.

The reason why is because Jesus returns twice.
THINK AGAIN = Follow the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE to find the Answer
 
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Let me splain sometin to you Lucy...

When Jesus left for heaven in the ascension...Jesus didn't leave in the display of having great power and authority like Jesus will have when He returns like presented in Rev 19.

The reason why is because Jesus returns twice.
What recognized defenders of the orthodox true Christian faith before 1800 believed that?