A WAR IS COMING, BUT IT WON’T BE FOUGHT ON EARTH.

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A WAR IS COMING, BUT IT WON’T BE FOUGHT ON EARTH. Revelation 12 reveals a stunning future battle in heaven: Michael and God’s angels will confront Satan and his forces, and Satan will be defeated and cast down to earth. But what happens next could unleash the darkest fury humanity has ever witnessed. Why does Satan want to destroy Israel and God’s people? And why does heaven warn, “Woe to the earth”?
 

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The book of Revelation for the world today.
A WAR IS COMING, BUT IT WON’T BE FOUGHT ON EARTH.

Just because one war is in heaven does not mean a war on Earth isn't coming. The war in the last verse of Rev 12 is a reference to the Tribulation, found in Rev 13.

Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
 

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From my study of the scriptures, the War in Heaven will end around the year 2044/2045 when Satan and the other judged heavenly hosts are judged in heaven, they will be kicked out of heaven down to the earth and imprisoned for 1,000 years in the Bottomless Pit along with the judged Kings of the earth who will assemble at that same time at Armageddon.

Then for 1,000 years there will be "peace" on the earth, free from the influence of the Judged Heavenly Hosts, until and angel comes down from heaven to unlock the Bottomless pit so that they can have access to the face of the earth during the Little While Period which I have assumed has a duration of just 24 years before all of the wicked and judged heavenly hosts will have been dispatched into the Lake of Fire where they will have no more direct influence over the sea of humanity.

During the 1,000 years that Satan and the others are locked up in the Bottomless Pit God's Everlasting Kingdom will be established on the face of the earth and it will flourish unhindered during this 1,000-year period.

At the end of the Little While Period, Jesus will return on the clouds with all of the heavenly realm to begin His judgement of all of the peoples of the earth.

Then when the Earth has been cleansed, God too will descend with Jerusalem and Eternity will commence.

Shalom
 

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A WAR IS COMING, BUT IT WON’T BE FOUGHT ON EARTH. Revelation 12 reveals a stunning future battle in heaven: Michael and God’s angels will confront Satan and his forces, and Satan will be defeated and cast down to earth. But what happens next could unleash the darkest fury humanity has ever witnessed. Why does Satan want to destroy Israel and God’s people? And why does heaven warn, “Woe to the earth”?
You are off by thousands of years.

Not worth watching.
 

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A WAR IS COMING, BUT IT WON’T BE FOUGHT ON EARTH. Revelation 12 reveals a stunning future battle in heaven: Michael and God’s angels will confront Satan and his forces, and Satan will be defeated and cast down to earth. But what happens next could unleash the darkest fury humanity has ever witnessed. Why does Satan want to destroy Israel and God’s people? And why does heaven warn, “Woe to the earth”?
The war in Revelation 12:7-12 will be in the second heaven, the cosmos where the stars are, which Satan and his angels will be cast down to earth.

Satan and his angels were cast out of the third heaven, where God's throne is, when they first rebelled against God.

The video speaker is incorrect in saying that the war is in heaven where God's throne is. Satan can enter in the third heaven only when summoned there by God to appear before God, temporarily.
 
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From my study of the scriptures, the War in Heaven will end around the year 2044/2045 when Satan and the other judged heavenly hosts are judged in heaven, they will be kicked out of heaven down to the earth and imprisoned for 1,000 years in the Bottomless Pit along with the judged Kings of the earth who will assemble at that same time at Armageddon.
Just curious....how do you come up with the years 2044/2045?
Then for 1,000 years there will be "peace" on the earth, free from the influence of the Judged Heavenly Hosts, until and angel comes down from heaven to unlock the Bottomless pit so that they can have access to the face of the earth during the Little While Period which I have assumed has a duration of just 24 years before all of the wicked and judged heavenly hosts will have been dispatched into the Lake of Fire where they will have no more direct influence over the sea of humanity.
Where does the 24 years come from? Is this the last 24 years of the reign of Christ or the 24 years after?
During the 1,000 years that Satan and the others are locked up in the Bottomless Pit God's Everlasting Kingdom will be established on the face of the earth and it will flourish unhindered during this 1,000-year period.
I agree. The only hinderance will be the "evil" that is naturally in mans hearts due to the fall.
At the end of the Little While Period, Jesus will return on the clouds with all of the heavenly realm to begin His judgement of all of the peoples of the earth.
I see Jesus returning on His white horse prior to the 1,000 year reign. You seem to put it after. What draws you to that conclusion?
Rev 19 described the return of Christ then the next thing we read about is the 1,000 years.
Then when the Earth has been cleansed, God too will descend with Jerusalem and Eternity will commence.
I agree with this.
 

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A WAR IS COMING, BUT IT WON’T BE FOUGHT ON EARTH. Revelation 12 reveals a stunning future battle in heaven: Michael and God’s angels will confront Satan and his forces, and Satan will be defeated and cast down to earth. But what happens next could unleash the darkest fury humanity has ever witnessed. Why does Satan want to destroy Israel and God’s people? And why does heaven warn, “Woe to the earth”?
How do you now this war didn't happen when Jesus died on the cross....as John was re-capping.
 

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How do you now this war didn't happen when Jesus died on the cross....as John was re-capping.
The war in the second heaven in Revelation 12:7-12 will be after the 1260 day first half of the 7 years, in Revelation 12:6.

Satan, cast down to earth, will have great wrath, knowing that his time is short, i.e. the time/times/half of Revelation 12:14.
His great wrath will be the third woe to the inhabiters of the earth, Revelation 12:12.

Here a couple of charts I made relative to the timing involved...

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The war in the second heaven in Revelation 12:7-12 will be after the 1260 day first half of the 7 years, in Revelation 12:6.

Satan, cast down to earth, will have great wrath, knowing that his time is short, i.e. the time/times/half of Revelation 12:14.
His great wrath will be the third woe to the inhabiters of the earth, Revelation 12:12.

Here a couple of charts I made relative to the timing involved...

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That is one way to look at it.

As I asked.....How do you now this war didn't happen when Jesus died on the cross....as John was re-capping.
 

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Just curious....how do you come up with the years 2044/2045?

From knowing when the fourth age of the visitation of the father's iniquities will end and the year that Isaac was born with respect to when Adam was created and that Adam was created around the year 4,100 BC. The maths points to the 2044/2045 AD conclusion.

Where does the 24 years come from? Is this the last 24 years of the reign of Christ or the 24 years after?

We are told this in Daniel 7:12: -

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Now a Generation/Age has a duration of 1,024 Solar years and we are told that the Summer Season for the harvest of Souls will be for 1,000 solar years such that there is a period of "time", referred to as "A Little While" in Rev 20 when the Bottomless Pit will be unlocked and the entities initially imprisoned in the Bottomless pit will be allowed access to re-establish their influence over the peoples of the earth for the rest of the last generation/age and oppose God's Everlasting Kingdom that came into being during the 1,000 years of peace on the earth while these entities were imprisoned in the Bottomless Pit. The maths clearly indicates that this Little While period has a duration of 24 years.

I agree. The only hinderance will be the "evil" that is naturally in mans hearts due to the fall.

Jesus in the Parable of the Talents and the Minas plainly tells us that Satan's "good and faithful servants" will use the money he, i.e. Satan, will give them to impede, if possible, God's Everlasting kingdom, from being established.

I see Jesus returning on His white horse prior to the 1,000 year reign. You seem to put it after. What draws you to that conclusion?
Rev 19 described the return of Christ then the next thing we read about is the 1,000 years.

This is where we diverge in our understanding of what will happen during the last age for mankind as we know it today.

The Book of Revelation has been written in the order as to what has been revealed to John and is not a chronological revelation of the end times as you are suggesting in your understanding.

I agree with this.

Shalom
 

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That is one way to look at it.

As I asked.....How do you now this war didn't happen when Jesus died on the cross....as John was re-capping.

Yes, the war in heaven started around the time of Christ's crucifixion and it will conclude when the Kings of the earth assemble at Armageddon, around two generations/ages later, to be judged and at this same time the Heavenly Hosts will also be judged and they, the kings of the earth and the heavenly hosts, will be imprisoned in a pit for many days to await the time of their punishment. (Isaiah 24:21-22)

Shalom

PS: - Dougggg has this fixation that his diagrams tell the story of how the end times will unfold. Sadly, his chronology of the end time events does not match scripture.
 

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That is one way to look at it.

As I asked.....How do you now this war didn't happen when Jesus died on the cross....as John was re-capping.
The reason that John was not re-capping when Jesus died on the cross is that Revelation 12:7-9 follows the 1260 days of Revelation 12:6.