Once saved always saved

[Armour of God]

Because you don’t understand

Your right.
I dont understand.
I hope God forgives my ignorance.

 

[Armour of God]

2 easy questions, see if you can answer a simple YES or NO to both.
If not then it will be apparent you DON'T KNOW.

Do you believe you REMAIN saved if you stop doing good deeds ?
Do you believe GOOD deeds are a requirement to REMAIN saved ?

You answer my question first that i asked before.

Would you prefer if I did bad deeds and not repent?

 

[Taken]

Do you do good deeds,

Sure.
Did good deeds before I was saved.
Do good deeds since I’ve been saved.
Similar deeds…
Purpose and reasoning has changed since I was saved.
Before… did good deeds for my pleasure.
After…Do goods deeds to Glorify God.

repent

Repent to the Lord God?
Yes…Once.
I was naturally born…Not Believing.
I Repented TO the Lord God, for having had NOT Believed.

and follow in Christs footsteps?

Literal footsteps? Not likely.

Follow Christs WAY?
With my best Effort, yes, I do.
Are my Efforts “always satisfactory or perfect”…No.
However as I live and breath, I have an ability to improve means to Glorify God.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[PeterAndroz]

You answer my question first that i asked before.

Would you prefer if I did bad deeds and not repent?

I used to think you were the type of person to hold a sensible conversation with but you have confirmed that is not the case.
You are better off interacting with others

 

[Taken]

Your right.
I dont understand.
I hope God forgives my ignorance.

You have a powerful “tool”… you simply need to use it…

You have the Right, Way, Means to PRAY to God and ASK Him for “His Understanding”…

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Armour of God]

You have a powerful “tool”… you simply need to use it…

You have the Right, Way, Means to PRAY to God and ASK Him for “His Understanding”…

Glory to God,
Taken

The tool you speak of is probably the bible.
I've read it several times in different translations.

But there are so many different churches and people with different interpretations and perspectives.
Everyone thinks that their right and everyone else is wrong.

I have my understanding and interpretations.
Some people agree. Others don't.
Unlike most people I'm not 100% sure of my interpretations on many theological topics.

I don't know.
It all becomes too confusing for me.

 

[Armour of God]

I used to think you were the type of person to hold a sensible conversation with but you have confirmed that is not the case.
You are better off interacting with others

Why can't you just answer the question.

Despite our beliefs, our actions are actually exactly the same.

We both have faith.
We both do good deeds.
We both repent.

If you truly believed in faith alone you wouldn't worry about deeds or repentance like some others don't.
Seems to me that you are actually relying on works as well rather than faith alone.

 

[Debp]

This is in reply to me saying I do good deeds, repent and follow in Christs footsteps.

Don't you do the same?

I replied to you as I did because it sounded like you didn't have assurance of salvation.

 

[Taken]

The tool you speak of is probably the bible.

No.
The Bible is “Knowledge”.

The “Understanding” of that knowledge is Offered to you from God.

The communication from you to God is Prayer.

The Tool IS Prayer.
The Asking is to God.
The request is for His Understanding.

I've read it several times in different translations.

But there are so many different churches and people with different interpretations and perspectives.
Everyone thinks that their right and everyone else is wrong.

I have my understanding and interpretations.
Some people agree. Others don't.
Unlike most people I'm not 100% sure of my interpretations on many theological topics.

I don't know.
It all becomes too confusing for me.

You are frustrated with opinions.
Ask the Source.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Wrangler]

Btw, we endure because we are saved. We don't endure to be saved.

If this were true, we wouldn’t have to be commanded to endure to the end.

 

[Wrangler]

We are continuing in Christ because of our having been saved.

This is NOT what Scripture says. Again, if it were true, we wouldn’t need to be commanded to remain in Christ.

The reason we are so commanded is because we could choose NOT to remain in Christ, I.e., remain g in Christ is NOT an automatic condition even if we are saved - just as we can let go of a life preserver drowning in the ocean where one throws us a life line to save us.

 

[Armour of God]

I replied to you as I did because it sounded like you didn't have assurance of salvation.

Despite the different opinions (faith alone vs faith and deeds) both sides still do the same things.

They have faith, they do good deeds and they repent. So the outcome should be the same anyway.

I don't believe I'm already saved.
That's something that happens after we die.
I'm not in heaven yet I'm still on earth.

I believe deeds and repentance are important because the bible says we will be judged and that God forgives if we repent.

But I'm not 100% sure.
Maybe faith alone is all that's required.
If so then great, I still will be saved.

 

[Armour of God]

You are frustrated with opinions.
Ask the Source.

I find it hard to recognise if it's God telling me something, or if it's the evil one or if it's my own mind.

Plenty of people and churches do this and yet they come up with different answers, all claiming to be inspired by God

I think I'm just better off admitting to God that I don't know for certain the answer to many things with this limited human mind that I have which is prone to error

 

[Taken]

I find it hard to recognise if it's God telling me something, or if it's the evil one or if it's my own mind.

Plenty of people and churches do this and yet they come up with different answers, all claiming to be inspired by God

I think I'm just better off admitting to God that I don't know for certain the answer to many things with this limited human mind that I have which is prone to error

Yes the Mind can be deceitful…

Which is WHY communication with God is through the spirit.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[GRACE ambassador]

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Three Bible studies For "God's Eternal Salvation", Yes?:

God's OPERATION On All HIS New-born babes In CHRIST
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God's Eternal Assurance
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Amen.

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And, precious friend(s), Please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified
In The Lord Jesus Christ and In His Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided:

The Bible: The BIG Picture

Amen.

 

[rwb]

Here is a list of 30 verses from Scripture that show salvation as having been saved, being saved and eternal security for them. Therefore, we can correctly say, that all who have been saved, are being saved, and shall in the end be saved.

1. John 3:16​

“For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.”

2. Ephesians 2:8-9

“For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.

3. Romans 10:9

“That if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.”

4. Acts 4:12

“Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

5. Titus 3:5

“Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit.”

6. John 14:6

“Jesus said to him, ‘I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.'”

7. 1 Timothy 2:5

“For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus.”

8. 2 Corinthians 5:17

“Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.”

9. Romans 5:8

“But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”

10. 1 John 5:11-12

“And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.”

11. Romans 6:23

“For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.”

12. Acts 2:21

“And it shall come to pass that whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

13. Isaiah 12:2

“Behold, God is my salvation, I will trust and not be afraid; ‘For YAH, the Lord, is my strength and song; He also has become my salvation.'”

14. Hebrews 7:25

“Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.”

15. Joel 2:32

“And it shall come to pass that whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved. For in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there shall be deliverance, as the Lord has said, among the remnant whom the Lord calls.”

16. Romans 8:1

“There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.”

17. John 10:28

“And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand.”

18. Ephesians 1:13-14

“In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.”

19. John 6:47

“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life.”

20. Titus 2:11

“For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men.”

21. Philippians 3:20

“For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ.”

22. Galatians 2:20

“I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.”

23. Colossians 1:13-14

“He has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son of His love, in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins.”

24. John 5:24

“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.”

25. Romans 8:38-39

“For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.”

26. 1 Peter 1:8-9

“Whom having not seen you love. Though now you do not see Him, yet believing, you rejoice with joy inexpressible and full of glory, receiving the end of your faith—the salvation of your souls.”

27. Acts 16:31

“So they said, ‘Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household.'”

28. 1 Thessalonians 5:9

“For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.”

29. Psalm 62:1

“Truly my soul silently waits for God; from Him comes my salvation.”

30. Isaiah 45:22

“Look to Me, and be saved, all you ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other.”

 

[GRACE ambassador]

we can correctly say, that all who have been saved, are being saved, and shall in the end be saved.

Amen!: The Three Tenses Of God's Eternal Salvation! Amen!!

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And, precious friend(s), Please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified
In The Lord Jesus Christ and In His Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided:

The Bible: The BIG Picture

Amen.

 

[חוכמה]

I don’t believe so. Our Master told us he came to fulfil the law and that nothing about the law would change. I know He said that it’s what comes out of the mouth that will defile us, not what goes in. And he taught (as I understand) that the ‘spirit’ of the law is more important than the literal law, as He makes clear when He tells us that we’ve already sinned when we think about doing sin in our hearts, not just when committing them.
What has happened is that we can now be forgiven when we trespass the law, through our Teacher. I’m not talking about the Mitzvoth of the Jews btw, only the laws actually in the bible.
(and for forgiveness, there is a prerequisite: repenting and asking for forgiveness)