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I just re-read this hypocritical statement . . .

WHY is it that we Catholics have to sit there and let everybody defecate on our beliefs without exposing them?
I caught you in a dpoctrinal LIE - so YOU got angry at me and said I was a "bad example".

A textbook case pof the pot calling the kettle black . . .

Doctrinal lie? How many ways can I prove you wrong?
And I do not "defecate" on Catholic beliefs.
Learn manners!
 

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Doctrinal lie? How many ways can I prove you wrong?
Learn manners!
I don't know. You haven't done it yet.
Look - just acccept that you are wrong. aboiut the Church bulding "Altars" to Mary . . .


As for "manners" - it was YOU who implied that either my parents or I were "stupid".

And I do not "defecate" on Catholic beliefs.
You just misrepresent them, Mr. College Grad . . .
 
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I don't know. You haven't done it yet.
Look - just acccept that you are wrong. aboiut the Church bulding "Altars" to Mary . . .


As for "manners" - it was YOU who implied that either my parents or I were "stupid".

After you implied that I needed to do my homework. All ya have to do is look it up to find out that I am right.

Altars to the Virgin Mary: Meaning, Traditions, and Where to Find Them​

An altar to the Virgin Mary is a sacred or devotional space dedicated to honoring and praying to the Blessed Mother in Catholic tradition. It can be a church altar, a private home altar, or a seasonal display such as a May Altar, and it serves as a focal point for prayer, reflection, and veneration.

Religious Significance​

In Catholicism, Mary is honored as the Mother of God, Queen of Heaven and Earth, and a model of faith and purity. Altars to her are designed to help the faithful venerate her, seek her intercession, and meditate on her life and virtues. Such altars often feature statues of Mary, saints associated with her, candles, flowers, and religious art.

Common Traditions​

  • Marian Altars in Churches: Many parishes have dedicated Marian altars, sometimes with statues of Mary holding the Child Jesus, flanked by saints like St. Cecilia or St. Agnes
  • May Altars: A centuries-old tradition where a special altar is set up in homes or churches during the month of May, decorated with flowers, candles, and Marian symbols.
  • Private Home Altars: Individuals create personal altars in their homes, often with a statue of Mary, a rosary, candles, and other devotional items.

How to Create Your Own Altar​

According to Saint Jerome Church’s guidance.
  1. Choose a location — a quiet, respectful space in your home or garden.
  2. Select a theme — e.g., “Our Lady of Guadalupe” or “Immaculate Heart of Mary.”
  3. Adorn with symbols — statues of Mary, candles, fresh flowers, rosaries, and religious art.
  4. Incorporate prayer — spend time in contemplation and offer prayers to Mary.
  5. Maintain and update — refresh the altar regularly, especially during Marian feasts.

Where to Find Altars and Decor​

  • Etsy offers a wide range of handmade and crafted altars, statues, and Marian art — from wooden Virgin Mary statues to resin figurines, altar trays, and religious prints.
  • Pinterest provides inspiration boards for altar design and decoration.
  • Local churches may have altars or offer guidance for creating your own.
Tip: Whether you choose a store-bought altar or create one yourself, the key is to make it a sacred space for prayer and reflection that honors Mary’s role in the Catholic faith.
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Altar to the Lady of Guadalupe
An “altar to the Lady of Guadalupe” is a devotional table or shrine dedicated to Our Lady of Guadalupe, often featuring her image, religious art, and symbolic objects, and may be found in churches, homes, or personal shrines.

Religious and Cultural Significance​

Our Lady of Guadalupe is one of the most venerated images of the Blessed Virgin Mary in the Catholic Church, associated with the 1531 apparition to Juan Diego on Tepeyac Hill in Mexico. She is patroness of Mexico and Latin America, and her image is central to Mexican Catholic identity. Altars to her serve as focal points for prayer, reflection, and cultural heritage, often incorporating Marian symbols such as the tilma, roses, and the starry mantle.

Example: Basilica’s Altar to Our Lady of Guadalupe​

The Little Flower Basilica in San Antonio, Texas, houses a special altar to Our Lady of Guadalupe. The image is a replica of the original Tepeyac painting, painted by Mexican artist A. G. Guerra, and set in an ornate gold‑leaf frame from Monterrey, Mexico. The altar, made of Vermont marble, was donated in memory of Dorothy Needham Krebs and blessed in 1947. It includes a small piece of the original Tepeyac mountain, symbolizing the “roses of her love” falling on the faithful. This altar has been a place of spiritual consolation and a reminder of home for Mexican‑American communities.

Home Altars and Personal Devotion​

In Mexican‑American households, home altars often feature Our Lady of Guadalupe alongside family portraits, rosary beads, and other devotional items. These altars are central to family life, used for daily prayers, celebrations, and times of need. They blend personal devotion with cultural identity, often reflecting the “Patria” (homeland) connection.

Where to Find Altars​

  • Churches and shrines: Many Catholic churches, especially in Mexican‑American communities, have dedicated altars to Our Lady of Guadalupe.
  • Home altars: Families may create their own altars using images, statues, and symbolic objects.
  • Online marketplaces: Sites like Etsy offer altars, statues, prints, and devotional items for personal shrines.
In summary, an altar to the Lady of Guadalupe is both a sacred space and a cultural symbol, rooted in the veneration of the Virgin Mary’s apparition to Juan Diego, and it can range from a grand church altar to a personal home shrine.Mary.jpg
 
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After you implied that I needed to do my homework. All ya have to do is look it up to find out that I am right.
I realize that I hurt your feelings, but I was only offering advice.
It wan't my intention to damage your pride . . .

Altars to the Virgin Mary: Meaning, Traditions, and Where to Find Them​

An altar to the Virgin Mary is a sacred or devotional space dedicated to honoring and praying to the Blessed Mother in Catholic tradition. It can be a church altar, a private home altar, or a seasonal display such as a May Altar, and it serves as a focal point for prayer, reflection, and veneration.

Religious Significance​

In Catholicism, Mary is honored as the Mother of God, Queen of Heaven and Earth, and a model of faith and purity. Altars to her are designed to help the faithful venerate her, seek her intercession, and meditate on her life and virtues. Such altars often feature statues of Mary, saints associated with her, candles, flowers, and religious art.

Common Traditions​

  • Marian Altars in Churches: Many parishes have dedicated Marian altars, sometimes with statues of Mary holding the Child Jesus, flanked by saints like St. Cecilia or St. Agnes
  • May Altars: A centuries-old tradition where a special altar is set up in homes or churches during the month of May, decorated with flowers, candles, and Marian symbols.
  • Private Home Altars: Individuals create personal altars in their homes, often with a statue of Mary, a rosary, candles, and other devotional items.

How to Create Your Own Altar​

According to Saint Jerome Church’s guidance.
  1. Choose a location — a quiet, respectful space in your home or garden.
  2. Select a theme — e.g., “Our Lady of Guadalupe” or “Immaculate Heart of Mary.”
  3. Adorn with symbols — statues of Mary, candles, fresh flowers, rosaries, and religious art.
  4. Incorporate prayer — spend time in contemplation and offer prayers to Mary.
  5. Maintain and update — refresh the altar regularly, especially during Marian feasts.

Where to Find Altars and Decor​

  • Etsy offers a wide range of handmade and crafted altars, statues, and Marian art — from wooden Virgin Mary statues to resin figurines, altar trays, and religious prints.
  • Pinterest provides inspiration boards for altar design and decoration.
  • Local churches may have altars or offer guidance for creating your own.
Tip: Whether you choose a store-bought altar or create one yourself, the key is to make it a sacred space for prayer and reflection that honors Mary’s role in the Catholic faith.
https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=d77c...GFkeStvZitHdWFkYWx1cGUmZm9ybT1DU0JSQU5E&ntb=1
Altar to the Lady of Guadalupe
An “altar to the Lady of Guadalupe” is a devotional table or shrine dedicated to Our Lady of Guadalupe, often featuring her image, religious art, and symbolic objects, and may be found in churches, homes, or personal shrines.

Religious and Cultural Significance​

Our Lady of Guadalupe is one of the most venerated images of the Blessed Virgin Mary in the Catholic Church, associated with the 1531 apparition to Juan Diego on Tepeyac Hill in Mexico. She is patroness of Mexico and Latin America, and her image is central to Mexican Catholic identity. Altars to her serve as focal points for prayer, reflection, and cultural heritage, often incorporating Marian symbols such as the tilma, roses, and the starry mantle.
For starters, the image you posted is NOT an Altar. it's a STATUE.
You might even call it a mobile Shrine.

Also, when investigating a religious belief that you reject – go to an OFFICIAL valid source.
You might want to try a Catholic source to see what we actually teach.

Let’s start with the etymology of the word “Altar”.
The Hebrew word for "altar” (Mizbeach)," literally means "place of SLAUGHTER."

Now, let’s go to the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) to see what “those darn Catholics” teach . . .
Altar (CCC):

1182: The altar of the New Covenant is the Lord's Cross,59 from which the sacraments of the Paschal mystery flow. On the ALTAR, which is the center of the church, the SACRIFICE of the Cross is made present under sacramental signs. The altar is also the table of the Lord, to which the People of God are invited.60 In certain Eastern liturgies, the altar is also the symbol of the tomb (Christ truly died and is truly risen).

1383: The altar, around which the Church is gathered in the celebration of the Eucharist, represents the two aspects of the same mystery: the altar of the sacrifice and the table of the Lord. This is all the more so since the Christian altar is the symbol of Christ himself, present in the midst of the assembly of his faithful, both as the victim offered for our reconciliation and as food from heaven who is giving himself to us.


Here are s few secular scholarly sources that get it right – unlike YOU . . .
Merrriam-Webster's Dictionary
altar

noun
al·tarˈȯl-tər
1
: a usually raised structure or place ON WHICH SACRIFICES ARE OFFERED or incense is burned in worship
—often used figuratively to describe a thing given great or undue precedence or value especially at the cost of something else sacrificed his family life on the altar of career advancement
2
a: a tablelike construction used in the Christian church in celebrating the Eucharist


Encyclopedia Britannica
Altar: in religion, a raised structure or place that is used for SACRIFICE, worship, or prayer.

NewAdvent Catholic Encyclopedia:
“As soon as men conceived the idea of offering sacrifices to the Deity they felt the need of places specially designed for this end.“ These primeval specimens of altars were necessarily most simple, very likely consisting of a heap of stones or earth, suitable for the fire and the victims.


“… such also were the altars built up by Noah after the flood (Genesis 8:20); by Abraham in Sichem (Genesis 12:7), Bethel (Genesis 12:8; 13:4), Mambre (Genesis 13:18), and at the place where he had been about to sacrifice his son (Genesis 22:9); by Isaac and Jacob at Bersabee (Genesis 26:25; 46:1), and by the latter in Galaad (Genesis 31:54).”

- An ALTAR is a place for offering sacrifice and or religious rituals.
- A SHRINE is a place of veneration dedicated to a specific deity, ancestor, hero, martyr, saint, etc.

We see makeshift shrine on roadsides where a person was killed in an auto accident. Many loved ones and friends place flowers and other decorations to commemorate the fallen.
Theuy DON'T offer up sacrifices . . .
 

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For starters, the image you posted is NOT an Altar. it's a STATUE.
You might even call it a mobile Shrine.

Also, when investigating a religious belief that you reject – go to an OFFICIAL valid source.
You might want to try a Catholic source to see what we actually teach.

You are splitting hairs. I can come up with a lot of "altars" and statues and people kneeling in front of them with hands folded.
Investigating religious beliefs? You are getting old and your memory is failing you.
St. Vincent Elementary
Mary Queen of Peace.
St. Rita
Bishop Dubourg High School
Christian Brothers College
My first schools were Catholic. You are so full of hate you cannot communicate like a Christian. LEARN SOME MANNERS! I have been telling you that ever since I first met you. It was I that did the course of Christian etiquette with women with you. Turn brain on!
 
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You are splitting hairs.
No -= just differentiating facts . . .
I can come up with a lot of "altars" and statues and people kneeling in front of them with hands folded.
Wrong.
YOU came up with what you THIOUGHT were “Altars” to Mary.

We Catholics don’t build Altars to ANYONE but God.
As I told you before – Shrines are for veneration of saints and places of prayer.

And folded hands and bowed heads are nothing more than prayer posiures. Some people close their eyes – others don’t. Some people kneel – others sit. NOT all [people pray in the same fashion.

At Shrines, we pray to God and we ASK (pray) that particular saint to PRAY for us. It’s NO different than asking a fellow member of the Body of Christ here on earth to pray for us. Those in Heaven are just as much a part of that Body as we on earth are . . .

Investigating religious beliefs? You are getting old and your memory is failing you.
St. Vincent Elementary
Mary Queen of Peace.
St. Rita
Bishop Dubourg High School
Christian Brothers College

My first schools were Catholic.
Congratulations.

I also went to Catholic school – and I know DOZENS of people who did and are completely ignorant of what the Church actually teaches.

You are so full of hate you cannot communicate like a Christian. LEARN SOME MANNERS! I have been telling you that ever since I first met you. It was I that did the course of Christian etiquette with women with you. Turn brain on!
And again - THIS coming from the person who said that either my parents or I were “STUPID” – just because I disagreed with you. Did someone say . . . "Hypocrisy?"

When you lash out angrily at other Christians for admonishing or exposing you – it is YOU who needs to self-correct . . .
 

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No -= just differentiating facts . . .

Wrong.
YOU came up with what you THIOUGHT were “Altars” to Mary.

We Catholics don’t build Altars to ANYONE but God.
As I told you before – Shrines are for veneration of saints and places of prayer.

And folded hands and bowed heads are nothing more than prayer posiures. Some people close their eyes – others don’t. Some people kneel – others sit. NOT all [people pray in the same fashion.

At Shrines, we pray to God and we ASK (pray) that particular saint to PRAY for us. It’s NO different than asking a fellow member of the Body of Christ here on earth to pray for us. Those in Heaven are just as much a part of that Body as we on earth are . . .


Congratulations.

I also went to Catholic school – and I know DOZENS of people who did and are completely ignorant of what the Church actually teaches.

And again - THIS coming from the person who said that either my parents or I were “STUPID” – just because I disagreed with you. Did someone say . . . "Hypocrisy?"

When you lash out angrily at other Christians for admonishing or exposing you – it is YOU who needs to self-correct . . .

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You never learn do you?
Or, maybe you just like being
humiliated . . .
 

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A Catholic diocese is publicly telling families to recognize Mary as “Queen of the Universe,” consecrate themselves to her, and pray to her. On August 22, the Roman Catholic Diocese of Providence published material for the “Queenship of the Blessed Virgin Mary.” It says Mary was crowned “Queen,” instructs families to give her an honored place in their homes, pray to her, and consecrate their lives and possessions to her. Another Catholic archdiocese published a defense of Mary's alleged queenship the same day.

Why it matters: This is not a minor denominational custom. Scripture never calls Mary the Queen of Heaven, never commands Christians to consecrate themselves to her, and never tells believers to pray to her. Mary herself said, “My soul doth magnify the Lord, And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour” (Luke 1:46-47, KJV). Jesus Christ is the one Mediator: “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus” (1 Timothy 2:5).

Jeremiah's references to the “queen of heaven” certainly do not support this practice. They describe an object of idolatrous worship that provoked God's anger (Jeremiah 7:18; 44:17-25).

Read what the Diocese of Providence published
Necromancy. Mary is dead.
 

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I've noticed that Catholic apologists have their own version of 'name it and claim it' -

It is not an altar because we call it a 'shrine'.​
It is not worship because we call it 'veneration'.​
It is not bread & wine because we call it 'body & blood'.​
Mary did not have children because we say she was a 'perpetual virgin'.​
Mary is not buried because we say 'bodily assumption'.​
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This game is easier to play when you have an infallible pontiff.
 

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I've noticed that Catholic apologists have their own version of 'name it and claim it' -

It is not an altar because we call it a 'shrine'.​
It is not worship because we call it 'veneration'.​
It is not bread & wine because we call it 'body & blood'.​
Mary did not have children because we say she was a 'perpetual virgin'.​
Mary is not buried because we say 'bodily assumption'.​
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This game is easier to play when you have an infallible pontiff.

Well the Catholic Church had full reign and a long time to come up with some false beliefs....Three Gods in One.....Original Sin.....the impregnation of Mary without sex....the perpetual virginity of Mary.....confessing of their sins to a priest....the Bread and Wine ritual reduced to a host etc.

But the Protestants have some of their own....they focus on the Bible for all their beliefs like Christianity stopped evolving at the end of the Bible. Did someone tie God up and gage Him. Divine events continued to happen after the biblical era. They do not believe in the miracle of the Bread and Wine ritual. Some do not believe in the miracle of Baptism. Some believe saved by faith alone and an immoral life does not affect their salvation.

And Mary is a whole different topic. From then as it is today her visitations and miracles number in the thousands. Witnessed by the tens of thousands. As it is she is the most visible aberrations of the Divine. Her purpose? Intersession and help and healing. Mary is credited with the conversion of the Pagans in South America to Christianity in a very short time. Do people worship her? It is a fine line. Do people love her? Definitely. Do people pray to her? Definitely. I for one do believe in her activities and I do prey to her, too much evidence to deny. Is that worship? Again it is a fine line. Protestants believe that God took Enoch and Elijah in bodily form, why not Mary?
 
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The word Antichrist literally means, in place of Christ. Growing up myself within Catholicism and taught by Marist Brothers and priests throughout my young life, I could not avoid the stark reality of Marian devotion replacing Jesus as Mediator. One might argue that Mary is the mediator between man and Jesus, but is such a thing seen as necessary? What is so scary about Jesus that we cannot approach Him directly? What is it that is asked of Him that we believe a mother's intercession is required before He gives us what we need? The so called ministry of Mary itself (not Mary herself as she is still in the grave as far as we know) is antichrist. It is in place of Christ. It has moved Christ to the side and promoted an idol. I dont ever remember any religious instruction directing me to pray to Jesus. The rosary itself focuses on Mary. And the Rosary was our focus. We hung them round our necks.
I understand many, even some on this forum, believe it is Mary herself in visions and appearances around the globe, and that people are being converted as a result. But converted to what? To Jesus? Maybe. To Mary? More likely.
 
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The word Antichrist literally means, in place of Christ. Growing up myself within Catholicism and taught by Marist Brothers and priests throughout my young life, I could not avoid the stark reality of Marian devotion replacing Jesus as Mediator. One might argue that Mary is the mediator between man and Jesus, but is such a thing seen as necessary? What is so scary about Jesus that we cannot approach Him directly? What is it that is asked of Him that we believe a mother's intercession is required before He gives us what we need? The so called ministry of Mary itself (not Mary herself as she is still in the grave as far as we know) is antichrist. It is in place of Christ. It has moved Christ to the side and promoted an idol. I dont ever remember any religious instruction directing me to pray to Jesus. The rosary itself focuses on Mary. And the Rosary was our focus. We hung them round our necks.
I understand many, even some on this forum, believe it is Mary herself in visions and appearances around the globe, and that people are being converted as a result. But converted to what? To Jesus? Maybe. To Mary? More likely.

I do not know any religion that puts Miriam above Yeshua. I don't think anybody thought we needed Miriam to be intercessor, someone above apparently did. Its not really about believing, it is about what has been happening for thousands of years. Well documented and well witnessed. History is full of her. You can look at the history of Christianity in South America.
It is not like God has never taken someone in bodily form before, He took Enoch and Elijah, so it is not so unbelievable that He took Miriam.
Now people come up with false beliefs and if it wasn't for her history I could see why people would not believe. And it is not like the Catholic Church wanted to believe. They resisted for a while until it became obvious what was happening.
And another thing, when the Church investigates Marian visitations and miracles, they make these people's lives miserable. Of course when 10,000 people see her or see the miracles they don't bother.
There are some that call her the devil. I would not want to be them when they are standing in front of Yeshua on Judgment Day.
When the Protestants decided to break away from Martin Luther they discarded the beliefs in Miriam. And they formed their beliefs on the Bible only. And in a way it made sense, to stay true the Word of God. But on the other hand, it is like they believe that God died after the biblical era. Some Protestants do not even believe in miracles today, or in the miracles of Baptism or the Bread and Wine ritual.
She appears to people, a lot of people, was it because she was taken in bodily form that makes her more adapt to appearing in the physical? Is that why through history we don't have a lot of people seeing Yeshua and Him appearing in bodily form? I can't explain it, all I know is there is a long history of Miriam performing these miracles.
There are Marian shrines all over the world and each one of them are linked to visitations or a miracle, sometimes miracles.
 

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I do not know any religion that puts Miriam above Yeshua. I don't think anybody thought we needed Miriam to be intercessor, someone above apparently did. Its not really about believing, it is about what has been happening for thousands of years. Well documented and well witnessed. History is full of her. You can look at the history of Christianity in South America.
It is not like God has never taken someone in bodily form before, He took Enoch and Elijah, so it is not so unbelievable that He took Miriam.
Now people come up with false beliefs and if it wasn't for her history I could see why people would not believe. And it is not like the Catholic Church wanted to believe. They resisted for a while until it became obvious what was happening.
And another thing, when the Church investigates Marian visitations and miracles, they make these people's lives miserable. Of course when 10,000 people see her or see the miracles they don't bother.
There are some that call her the devil. I would not want to be them when they are standing in front of Yeshua on Judgment Day.
When the Protestants decided to break away from Martin Luther they discarded the beliefs in Miriam. And they formed their beliefs on the Bible only. And in a way it made sense, to stay true the Word of God. But on the other hand, it is like they believe that God died after the biblical era. Some Protestants do not even believe in miracles today, or in the miracles of Baptism or the Bread and Wine ritual.
She appears to people, a lot of people, was it because she was taken in bodily form that makes her more adapt to appearing in the physical? Is that why through history we don't have a lot of people seeing Yeshua and Him appearing in bodily form? I can't explain it, all I know is there is a long history of Miriam performing these miracles.
There are Marian shrines all over the world and each one of them are linked to visitations or a miracle, sometimes miracles.
Neither do I, my dishonest friend . . .
 

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The word Antichrist literally means, in place of Christ. Growing up myself within Catholicism and taught by Marist Brothers and priests throughout my young life, I could not avoid the stark reality of Marian devotion replacing Jesus as Mediator.
Hmmm . . . so YOU’VE never asked a fellow Christian to pray for you? OR, would that make you an “Antichrist”. Boy – you didn’t learn much in your days as an uninformed and ignorant Catholic . . .
One might argue that Mary is the mediator between man and Jesus, but is such a thing seen as necessary? What is so scary about Jesus that we cannot approach Him directly?
We are commanded in Scripture to pray for each other (James 5:16, 1 John 5:16). We ASK Mary to pray FOR us – just as we ASK other members of the Body of Christ on earth AND in Heaven.. Were they kicked OUT og the Body? Did I miss your memo?

To ASK is what the word “Pray” means . . .

Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary:

Full Definition of pray
transitive verb
1: ENTREAT, IMPLORE —often used as a function word in introducing a question, REQUEST, or PLEA<pray be careful>
2: to get or bring by praying

intransitive verb
1: to make a REQUEST in a humble manner
2: to address God or a god with adoration, confession, supplication, or thanksgiving


Acts 27:34
"Wherefore I pray you to take some meat: for this is for your health: for there shall not an hair fall from the head of any of you".