The Coming FALSE MESSIAH

[Earburner]

You are confused about Premill.

I am... Premill, thing is that simply means when Jesus returns there will be a 1,000 year literal period in which the unsaved and wicked will still exist, and He must reign over them with His elect Church for that 1,000 years. Then the Great White Throne Judgement will happen after that period, in which all... the unsaved and wicked who reject Jesus Christ will be cast into the "lake of fire". Only then, once all the wicked are gone, does God's new heavens and a new earth come.

Just because the Pre-tribulational Rapture theorists believe in Premill also does not mean it is not Biblical. It is what the 1st century Church fathers believed, and it's easy to know why, because both The Old Testament and New Testament Scriptures point to it as a literal period when Christ returns and reigns over the wicked. Zechariah 9:9-10 declare those 2 comings by Messiah, and we still await His 2nd one.



I believe that because... it is written. (Revelation 20; 2 Peter 3:8-9; Zechariah 6; Ezekiel 40-48)



Figuratively is NOT accepting the "thousand years" of Revelation 20 that is written literally. There are NO figurative Scripture associations written for it. Those figurative associations are simply thought up by men's traditions with NO Biblical Scripture support.

Take for example the Amillennialist theory that all the wicked are destroyed on the day of Christ's future return. What Lord Jesus said to the Church of Philadelphia that He would make those of the "synagogue of Satan" to come and worship at their feet is a major proof that the wicked are not... all destroyed at Christ's future coming (See Revelation 3:9). There are Old Testament pointers about the wicked still existing after Jesus' return; Zechariah 14:16-20 is another one.

And just think of it, nowhere in God's Word does a literal period represent something more than what it says, UNLESS God states so (like His day for a year idea in Ezekiel 4:6 and Daniel 9, which is ONLY for those specific prophecies.) Yet the Amill theory tries to stretch that "thousand years" period of Revelation 20 into a period over 2,000 years, since they believe it figuratively... began at Christ's cross. That's nothing but men's supposition, and nowhere written Biblically.

I'm confused about Pre-mil.?? No, I use to believe in that nonsense.

Down through the years, I have learned that there is no way on this side of heaven, that any person (except Jesus) could ever describe heaven, by what Ezekiel saw in his vision of heaven. Ezekiel ch. 40-48.

All of what Ezekiel saw in his visions, is to him in symbolism of what heaven looked like, having nothing of this world to compare it to, for even a reasonable description.
It has nothing to do with this present world at all.
Nor even that for your wild, fictitious belief of a literal 1000 year reign of the Immortal Glorious Christ, returning back to be on this old corrupted earth, along with us, His Glorified Immortal Saints.
SORRY, that surely will be no "comfort" to me, to be back here again, along with the UNSAVED....AGAIN?!??!!!
1 Thes. 4
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the AIR: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore COMFORT one another with these words.

Do you honestly believe that you, as an Immortal glorified being, in the likeness of Christ, will be CO-EXISTING with mortal, unsaved unregenerates, who will NEVER be saved anyways, because The Age of God's Grace, THROUGH having FAITH in Jesus (unseen), will have PASSED?

Nope!! I don't see the Immortal Christ and His Immortal Saints to be part of any such foolishness that the Premillenial crowd has conjured up, of co-existing with sinful mortal people, who can never be saved anyways.

However, if you do understand Ezekiel, then aside from a literal Temple building, please explain to us all what exactly it is that he is describing in his visions. Ezk. ch. 40-48.
And then in the context of all of Rev. 21 what do the verses 22-23 mean to you.
22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

In brief, I do understand it. All we who are Born again of the Holy Spirit, ARE THE TEMPLE OF the living God, in which He lives.
Learn this: God does NOT live in houses or temple buildings made by hands. Acts 17:24; 2 Cor. 5:1; Heb. 9:24.

We ourselves are the precious "jewels" (Malachi 3:17-18), the "lively stones/gems" (1 Peter 2:1-5) that make up what exactly the New City of Heavenly Jerusalem is and shall be, of which Jesus was/is the "chief cornerstone", the VERY BEGINNING of God Himself building the NEW Heavenly Jerusalem.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

They are locust-like creatures, not literal locust. They are described in Revelation 9:7-10 .

No, they are not. Locust-like creatures would not have an angel as their king. How can you not recognize the symbolism? The book of Revelation has a great deal of symbolism and the locusts are another symbol. They represent the fallen angels who have the fallen angel called Apollyon, who is also called Satan, as their king.

Satan lead the revolt against God, convincing a third of the angels to side with him (Satan).

Abaddon is one of those revolting angels, who is presently in the bottomless pit.

No, Abaddon is just another name for Satan. The only king the fallen angels have is Satan. They are called "his angels" in reference to the devil, Satan, in Matthew 25:41 and Revelation 12:9.

Satan in not Abaddon,

Yes, he is. Abaddon is the king of the fallen angels and only Satan is the king of the fallen angels. That means Abaddon is just another name for Satan. Like Lucifer, The Devil and Beelzebub.

because Satan is the falling star in Revelation 9:1-2 who will open the bottomless pit, that releases the locust-like creatures and their king Abaddon.

Nonsense. Satan has no authority over the bottomless pit. Only God does. Revelation 9 describes an angel of God opening the bottomless pit. Again, you misunderstand the symbolism. The reference to a falling star doesn't mean what is represented by the star (an angel) is fallen. It's just describing an angel going from heaven to earth to open the bottomless pit. It's all symbolism, but you take it all literally for some reason.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

You just left... the subject of our conversation.

The matter of discussion is not about WHEN the angel of Revelation 9:1 receives the keys to unlock the locusts out of the bottomless pit.

The subject we have... been discussing is WHO is that "king" and "angel of the bottomless pit". It is SATAN himself.

That is correct. But, that means the time when Satan is loosed from the bottomless pit is at the fifth trumpet, not 1,000+ years after Jesus returns as Premils like you believe. I don't know how you're not seeing that.

 

[Davy]

You made the statement that Satan presently has the keys to the bottomless pit.

I did not say Satan already now... has the keys, and besides, that's not the subject anyway. You are stalling.

 

[Davy]

I'm confused about Pre-mil.?? No, I use to believe in that nonsense.

Down through the years, I have learned that there is no way on this side of heaven, that any person (except Jesus) could ever describe heaven, by what Ezekiel saw in his vision of heaven. Ezekiel ch. 40-48.

All of what Ezekiel saw in his visions, is to him in symbolism of what heaven looked like, having nothing of this world to compare it to, for even a reasonable description.
It has nothing to do with this present world at all.
Nor even that for your wild, fictitious belief of a literal 1000 year reign of the Immortal Glorious Christ, returning back to be on this old corrupted earth, along with us, His Glorified Immortal Saints.
SORRY, that surely will be no "comfort" to me, to be back here again, along with the UNSAVED....AGAIN?!??!!!
1 Thes. 4
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the AIR: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore COMFORT one another with these words.

Do you honestly believe that you, as an Immortal glorified being, in the likeness of Christ, will be CO-EXISTING with mortal, unsaved unregenerates, who will NEVER be saved anyways, because The Age of God's Grace, THROUGH having FAITH in Jesus (unseen), will have PASSED?

Nope!! I don't see the Immortal Christ and His Immortal Saints to be part of any such foolishness that the Premillenial crowd has conjured up, of co-existing with sinful mortal people, who can never be saved anyways.

However, if you do understand Ezekiel, then aside from a literal Temple building, please explain to us all what exactly it is that he is describing in his visions. Ezk. ch. 40-48.
And then in the context of all of Rev. 21 what do the verses 22-23 mean to you.
22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

In brief, I do understand it. All we who are Born again of the Holy Spirit, ARE THE TEMPLE OF the living God, in which He lives.
Learn this: God does NOT live in houses or temple buildings made by hands. Acts 17:24; 2 Cor. 5:1; Heb. 9:24.

We ourselves are the precious "jewels" (Malachi 3:17-18), the "lively stones/gems" (1 Peter 2:1-5) that make up what exactly the New City of Heavenly Jerusalem is and shall be, of which Jesus was/is the "chief cornerstone", the VERY BEGINNING of God Himself building the NEW Heavenly Jerusalem.

That sounds like Origen of Alexandria, Egypt type theology, that Bible Scripture is nothing but symbolism and allegory. No wonder he was excommunicated from the Church.

God gave Ezekiel visions of the FUTURE, just like He did with Apostle John. Although it includes symbols, those still represent something literal, as all symbols do.

Thus it also sounds like you might need to brush up on what symbols, allegory, metaphor, parable, idioms, expressions, are about in all... languages, because you obviously don't understand those things from an English perspective.

 

[Earburner]

Satan is not in the bottomless pit. Satan will not be cast into the bottomless pit until the day that Jesus returns in Revelation 20:1-3.

Can we make a correction here before everything goes off on a fictitious tangent?
The bottomless pit that satan was cast/thrown onto is this earth!!

Since the death and resurrection of Christ, this earth has become satan's permanent prison and the place of his endless grave.

 

[Earburner]

That sounds like Origen of Alexandria, Egypt type theology, that Bible Scripture is nothing but symbolism and allegory. No wonder he was excommunicated from the Church.

God gave Ezekiel visions of the FUTURE, just like He did with Apostle John. Although it includes symbols, those still represent something literal, as all symbols do.

Thus it also sounds like you might need to brush up on what symbols, allegory, metaphor, parable, idioms, expressions, are about in all... languages, because you obviously don't understand those things from an English perspective.

So then, your answer is that God gave to Ezekiel a personal tour and showed him the architectural design and the measurements of the literal New Heavenly Temple building in heaven.

I don't require anymore skills in "the wisdom of men", but as for your enhancement on "hearing what the Spirit sayeth to the churches", I suggest a "hearing test" to help you to determine what it is exactly that "the Holy Spirit teaches", as opposed to what "the wisdom of men" say. That way, you won't "need that any man should teach you".

 

[Davy]

Can we make a correction here before everything goes of on a fictitious tangent?
The bottomless pit that satan was cast/thrown into, is this earth!!

Since the death and resurrection of Christ, this earth has become satan's permanent prison and the place of his endless grave.

That's men's doctrine. Nowhere does The Bible say that.

That's just like how some primitive thinking minds actually believe that hell is inside the earth, like some of the old renaissance painters painted. It shows that some only think with their fleshy mind, and not their spiritual mind in Christ.

 

[Davy]

So then, your answer is that God gave to Ezekiel a personal tour and showed him the architectural design and the measurements of the literal New Heavenly Temple building in heaven.

Literally built ON EARTH!

But go your way, that Ezekiel 40 thru 47 prophecy is obviously not meant for you.

 

[David in NJ]

Satan is referred to in other ways in scripture such as "the devil", "the serpent" and Beelzebub. Apollyon is just another of his names that describes part of who he is (a destroyer). Who else but Satan is the king of the fallen angels? They are killed "his angels" (Matthew 25:41, Revelation 12:9). What is your understanding of the identity of the locusts in Revelation 9? Can you discern that they represent fallen angels?


No, it would not. If you understand that the locusts symbolically represent fallen angels and that Apollyon is their king, then it's quite easy to see who Apollyon is since no one but Satan is the king of the fallen angels.

You claimed that Apollyon is not Satan. What is your basis for that claim? Just that the name Apollyon is different than Satan? That doesn't prove anything. Again, Satan goes by other names as well.

Revelation declares that Apollyon is not Satan

@Earburner

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Revelation declares that Apollyon is not Satan

@Earburner

It does not. Making such claims with no support for them is meaningless. It says Apollyon is the king of the locusts. If you understand that the locusts represent fallen angels, then you should know that the fallen angels have Satan as their king (Matt 25:41, Rev 12:9). That means Apollyon is Satan.

 

[David in NJ]

It does not. Making such claims with no support for them is meaningless. It says Apollyon is the king of the locusts. If you understand that the locusts represent fallen angels, then you should know that the fallen angels have Satan as their king (Matt 25:41, Rev 12:9). That means Apollyon is Satan.

Revelation 9:1-11
Then the fifth angel sounded: And I saw a star fallen from heaven to the earth. To him was given the key to the bottomless pit. 2And he opened the bottomless pit, and smoke arose out of the pit like the smoke of a great furnace. So the sun and the air were darkened because of the smoke of the pit. 3Then out of the smoke locusts came upon the earth. And to them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. 4They were commanded not to harm the grass of the earth, or any green thing, or any tree, but only those men who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads. 5And they were not given authority to kill them, but to torment them for five months. Their torment was like the torment of a scorpion when it strikes a man. 6In those days men will seek death and will not find it; they will desire to die, and death will flee from them.

7The shape of the locusts was like horses prepared for battle. On their heads were crowns of something like gold, and their faces were like the faces of men. 8They had hair like women’s hair, and their teeth were like lions’ teeth. 9And they had breastplates like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was like the sound of chariots with many horses running into battle. 10They had tails like scorpions, and there were stings in their tails. Their power was to hurt men five months. 11And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon.

Apollyon is a specific spirit for a specific task and that is "king over the bottomless pit which are the locusts"

This spirit named Apollyon is under direct orders from GOD = whereas Satan is "the god of this age"
Satan is the highest ranking spirit that GOD created and only the Archangel Michael is able to do battle with him.

Apollyon has one purpose, to inflict pain with the locusts upon men who are not sealed by GOD.

Satan has authority to go much further then pain upon mankind as he can have men, women and children killed = put to death.
GOD, who is the FATHER, the LORD Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are the only ONE that has authority over Satan.

SEE here: Jude 1:8-11
Likewise also these dreamers defile the flesh, reject authority, and speak evil of dignitaries. 9Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” 10But these speak evil of whatever they do not know; and whatever they know naturally, like brute beasts, in these things they corrupt themselves. 11Woe to them! For they have gone in the way of Cain, have run greedily in the error of Balaam for profit, and perished in the rebellion of Korah.

Apollyon has only one SPECIFIC order and it comes directly from GOD = to inflict pain with the locusts.

Whereas Satan is the highest ranking spirit/angel above all the fallen angels:
Satan has power to deceive the nations - Apollyon does not/cannot
Satan has power to have people put to death - Apollyon does not/cannot
Satan is the god of this world - Apollyon is not, he is only a king over the bottomless pit and the locusts
Satan dwells in the heavenlies with many high ranking fallen angels = Apollyon does not dwell where Satan rules from
Satan is "the prince the power of the air" = he is not the king of the bottomless pit

PAY FULL ATTENTION between the differences of the spirit/angel Apollyon and Satan = Revelation chapter 12

Then a war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8But the dragon was not strong enough, and no longer was any place found in heaven for him and his angels. 9And the great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.


The WORD of GOD is Over ALL
He has a name written on His robe and on His thigh:
KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Revelation 9:1-11
Then the fifth angel sounded: And I saw a star fallen from heaven to the earth. To him was given the key to the bottomless pit. 2And he opened the bottomless pit, and smoke arose out of the pit like the smoke of a great furnace. So the sun and the air were darkened because of the smoke of the pit. 3Then out of the smoke locusts came upon the earth. And to them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. 4They were commanded not to harm the grass of the earth, or any green thing, or any tree, but only those men who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads. 5And they were not given authority to kill them, but to torment them for five months. Their torment was like the torment of a scorpion when it strikes a man. 6In those days men will seek death and will not find it; they will desire to die, and death will flee from them.

7The shape of the locusts was like horses prepared for battle. On their heads were crowns of something like gold, and their faces were like the faces of men. 8They had hair like women’s hair, and their teeth were like lions’ teeth. 9And they had breastplates like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was like the sound of chariots with many horses running into battle. 10They had tails like scorpions, and there were stings in their tails. Their power was to hurt men five months. 11And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon.

Apollyon is a specific spirit for a specific task and that is "king over the bottomless pit which are the locusts"

What are you basing that comment on? Please explain how you come to your conclusions. I have no reason to take what you say seriously unless I know how and why you come to your conclusions. What is your understanding of the identity of the locusts? Do you think they are literal locusts? Do you think they symbolically represent fallen angels? Please explain what you believe about this passage so that I don't have to guess.

This spirit named Apollyon is under direct orders from GOD = whereas Satan is "the god of this age"

How are you coming to this conclusion? You need to learn that just making claims without doing anything to explain why are you making them is not enough.

Satan is the highest ranking spirit that GOD created and only the Archangel Michael is able to do battle with him.

Apollyon has one purpose, to inflict pain with the locusts upon men who are not sealed by GOD.

How are you coming to that conclusion? Where does it say that's his only purpose?

Satan has authority to go much further then pain upon mankind as he can have men, women and children killed = put to death.

Where does Revelation 9 say that Apollyon has no ability to do any more than what is described in Revelation 9? Nowhere that I can see.

GOD, who is the FATHER, the LORD Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are the only ONE that has authority over Satan.

Of course. No one said otherwise.

SEE here: Jude 1:8-11
Likewise also these dreamers defile the flesh, reject authority, and speak evil of dignitaries. 9Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” 10But these speak evil of whatever they do not know; and whatever they know naturally, like brute beasts, in these things they corrupt themselves. 11Woe to them! For they have gone in the way of Cain, have run greedily in the error of Balaam for profit, and perished in the rebellion of Korah.

Apollyon has only one SPECIFIC order and it comes directly from GOD = to inflict pain with the locusts.

The text does not say that God orders Apollyon to do anything. Please stop adding things to the text that are not there. What the text does say is that the locusts are not allowed to kill anyone with the seal of God (believers). That doesn't equate to God giving Apollyon an order or to Apollyon only having the ability to do one certain thing.

Whereas Satan is the highest ranking spirit/angel above all the fallen angels:

It says Apollyon is an angel and is the king of the locusts. Again, who do you think the locusts represent? Many people, including myself, believe they represent fallen angels. Do you agree? What does other scripture indicate regarding who the fallen angels have as their king? Other scripture indicates that the fallen angels have Satan as their king. They are called "his angels" (Matthew 25:41, Revelation 12:9). So, if you agree that the locusts represent fallen angels, then you should agree that Apollyon is Satan since it says Apollyon is their king and the only king they have is Satan since they are "his angels". They are not the angels of some other high ranking spirit/angel. They are Satan's angels.

Satan has power to deceive the nations - Apollyon does not/cannot

Where does it say that about Apollyon? Nowhere. You are making all kinds of assumptions here that are not stated anywhere in the text.

Satan has power to have people put to death - Apollyon does not/cannot
Satan is the god of this world - Apollyon is not, he is only a king over the bottomless pit and the locusts
Satan dwells in the heavenlies with many high ranking fallen angels = Apollyon does not dwell where Satan rules from
Satan is "the prince the power of the air" = he is not the king of the bottomless pit

Where does scripture ever say any of these things? You're not using scripture to back up your claims. I can't take you seriously unless you start using scripture to back up your claims instead of your own assumptions.

PAY FULL ATTENTION between the differences of the spirit/angel Apollyon and Satan = Revelation chapter 12

Nowhere does it describe differences between Satan and Apollyon. You're making that up. You are just making all kinds of assumptions about that without being able to point to any actual text which indicates that they are not the same.

Then a war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8But the dragon was not strong enough, and no longer was any place found in heaven for him and his angels. 9And the great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.


The WORD of GOD is Over ALL
He has a name written on His robe and on His thigh:
KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.

You have done literally nothing here to prove that Apollyon is not Satan. Again, Apollyon is called the king of the locusts. If you understand that the locusts represent fallen angels then you should understand that Apollyon is Satan since the king of the fallen angels is Satan (Matthew 25:41, Revelation 12:9).

 

[Earburner]

That's men's doctrine. Nowhere does The Bible say that.

That's just like how some primitive thinking minds actually believe that hell is inside the earth, like some of the old renaissance painters painted. It shows that some only think with their fleshy mind, and not their spiritual mind in Christ.

I never was meaning inside this earth. I am meaning satan was cast out of heaven and down to this earth, aka as the bottomless pit.
For satan, this earth is forever his prison and endless grave.
Remember: Jesus is returning in FLAMING Fire. 2 Thes. 1:7-10

And as you know, all the graves are on the surface of this earth, and therefore being subject to the Eternal FIRE of Christ Himself, they shall be cast [figuratively] into the "Lake of Fire", which is this entire earth being turned into a melted, molten LAVA ball.
Our God is a Consuming fire. Heb. 12:39

KJV Rev. 12:7-13; 20:14-15.

 

[Earburner]

Literally built ON EARTH!

But go your way, that Ezekiel 40 thru 47 prophecy is obviously not meant for you.

According to Premil thinking, you are meaning a literal temple building, made out of stones, from out of the soil of the earth?
Yes or no?
Who is going to build it?

 

[Davy]

I never was meaning inside this earth. I am meaning satan was cast out of heaven and down to this earth, aka as the bottomless pit.

That bottomless pit is IN HEAVEN. Didn't you read the Isaiah 42:7 and 1 Peter 3 Scripture I referred to about Jesus going to the "spirits in prison" (in the heavenly), preaching The Gospel to them, and leading the prisoners that believed out of that pit prison house?

What you are not understanding is that the war in Heaven of Revelation 12:7 forward has NOT happened yet today. It is for the time when the "great tribulation" starts, because Jesus gave with it pointers to the tribulation in connection with the 5th Seal of Revelation 6, and the period of a "time, and times, and half a time" (the 1260 day latter half of Daniel's symbolic "one week" of Daniel 9:27).

Of specific importance about that Revelation 12:7-9 Scripture, is how when that casting of Satan and his angels down to this earth happens, and then there is no more place found for them IN HEAVEN, it means they are coming here literally on earth, in PLAIN SIGHT. This is why Revelation 17:8 says those whose names are not written in the book of life will 'wonder' at him when they see him.

As of right now, since Satan's original fall, he has been going back and forth, up and down the earth, and appearing before God's Throne in Heaven to accuse us. He is still doing that, and is still allowed in Heaven today, otherwise that Revelation 12:8 verse would not show when he is cast out at the end in our near future he won't be allowed back in Heaven.

Now if you don't understand this, it means you don't really understand the Heavenly order of things, because Satan and the angels have no flesh bodies, but spirit bodies only. When they appear on earth in plain view it is with their spirit body, not a flesh body. And that spirit body looks and feels just like a flesh body, as Paul showed in Hebrews 13 where he told those in Christ to be mindful of entertaining strangers, because some have entertained angels unaware.

 

[Davy]

According to Premil thinking, you are meaning a literal temple building, made out of stones, from out of the soil of the earth?
Yes or no?
Who is going to build it?

You asking that reveals your lack of study in the Old Testament Scriptures. Per Zechariah 6, the man called "The BRANCH" (Messiah, i.e.., Jesus Christ) is to build the temple (stone temple) in Jerusalem when He comes. And will bear the glory, and sit upon his throne as both Priest and King sitting upon His throne (i.e., David's throne which Christ is to inherit, an earthly throne).

Zech 6:12-13
12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD:

13 Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.
KJV


Do you think the orthodox unbelieving Jews in Jerusalem aren't familiar with that Zechariah 6:12-13 Scripture? Don't you wonder why the ultra-orthodox Jews in today's Jerusalem have been gathering materials to build their 3rd temple in Jerusalem? It's because they are STILL... expecting Messiah's coming, and that Zechariah 6:12-13 Scripture being fulfilled. Could Apostle Paul have known this? SURE... there's no doubt Apostle Paul knew about this, because that is why in 2 Thessalonians 2 Paul warned the Church that a false-Messiah ("man of sin"/Antichrist) must come first and sit in their 3rd temple of stone and cause the great apostasy.