Pictures of Christ 2 returns...

[GRACE ambassador]

2 Returns?:

Hardly, The Mystery Coming For The Body Of Christ To "Meet In the clouds" ( Not "return to earth"),
Because His Body Will Live Eternally "In the Heavenlies!!" = God's Great GRACE Departure!

6 or 7 years later =
The Prophesied Second Coming/RETURNing "All The Way TO the earth! Same 'link' above /\

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And, precious friend(s), Please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified
In The Lord Jesus Christ and In His Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided:

The Bible: The BIG Picture

Amen.

 

[ewq1938]

Didn't take 2 images like the OP had to do in order to give the false impression 2 different events are in view..

Maybe the AI could place the sword in Christ's mouth instead of his hand.

 

[ewq1938]

2 Returns?:

Hardly, The Mystery Coming For The Body Of Christ To "Meet In the clouds" ( Not "return to earth"),

The clouds are the clouds of Earth unless you think they are clouds of another planet.

This would make the return related to the rapture a return to the Earth.

 

[Davidpt]

Maybe the AI could place the sword in Christ's mouth instead of his hand.

I used a closed sourced ai image generator. But I do have some open source AI image generator models locally installed and some of them can edit. All I need to do is load the image and tell it to put a sword in Christ's mouth. Should be able to do that rather easy. And if that works I will replace other image with the edited one. When I'm not on the forum I'm usually generating AI images. It's mind blowing that you just prompt what you want and it generates that image for you. I have probably generated almost a million images over the past cpl of years since I first found out about AI image generations.. Almost sounds like an addiction.

 

[CrowCross]

Didn't take 2 images like the OP had to do in order to give the false impression 2 different events are in view..

The picture you presented shows 3 events.

 

[rwb]

When people read the bible and make a painting of the returns of Christ it's usually presented in two ways.
The rapture of 1 Thes 4:16 and the return of Jesus in Rev 19.

"return(s) of Christ"?

How do you reconcile Christ returning again twice with this verse telling us Christ shall come only a second time without sin unto salvation?

Hebrews 9:28 (KJV) So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

 

[CrowCross]

"return(s) of Christ"?

How do you reconcile Christ returning again twice with this verse telling us Christ shall come only a second time without sin unto salvation?

Hebrews 9:28 (KJV) So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

Jesus returns for His bride at the rapture.....does not physically come to earth.

Jesus returns with His bride physically on earth... to strike down the nations and rule.


27And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment, 28so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.

.....sounds pre-trib to me.

 

[rwb]

Jesus returns for His bride at the rapture.....does not physically come to earth.

Jesus returns with His bride physically on earth... to strike down the nations and rule.

Your understanding doesn't reconcile with Heb 9:28. Since your understanding clearly forces contradiction into the Bible, your understanding is proven false. Forcing contradictions into the Word of God is the hallmark of error.

Hebrews 9:28 (KJV) So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

 

[CrowCross]

Your understanding doesn't reconcile with Heb 9:28. Since your understanding clearly forces contradiction into the Bible, your understanding is proven false. Forcing contradictions into the Word of God is the hallmark of error.

Hebrews 9:28 (KJV) So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.

You don't seem to be eagerly awaiting the return of Christ for His bride.

 

[rwb]

but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.

You don't seem to be eagerly awaiting the return of Christ for His bride.

First, you force the Bible to contradict, now you think you have the ability to read minds???

 

[Truth7t7]

Which is why we should refer to 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 as the resurrection/rapture event.

So show your timeline chart of when you think the resurrection/rapture event will happen

I look at 1 Thess 4:16 below as "The Last Day" resurrection of all (The Dead In Christ Shall Rise First)

1 Thessalonians 4:16KJV
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Paul clearly taught that when Jesus returns the resurrection of the dead takes place, (Then Cometh The End) its that simple (The End) not a 1,000 year kingdom on this earth as many "Falsely" claim

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

The scripture above is in perfect agreement with Jesus being revealed in fire and brimstone as seen below (Then Cometh The End) as all the unsaved wicked are destroyed at the Lord's return

(Destroyed Them All)

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

The resurrection of "All" is seen below and the wicked are judged to eternal damnation, this is when the "Final Judgement" takes place (The End)

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

 Jesus clearly taught that the resurrection of "All" takes place on "The Last Day" this is in perfect agreement with the scripture above

John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

 

[Sel@h]

Why are the pictures so different? The answer is when you read scripture....they're different events.

They are the same event.

 

[Douggg]

I look at 1 Thess 4:16 below as "The Last Day" resurrection of all (The Dead In Christ Shall Rise First)

1 Thessalonians 4:16KJV
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Paul clearly taught that when Jesus returns the resurrection of the dead takes place, (Then Cometh The End) its that simple (The End) not a 1,000 year kingdom on this earth as many "Falsely" claim

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

The scripture above is in perfect agreement with Jesus being revealed in fire and brimstone as seen below (Then Cometh The End) as all the unsaved wicked are destroyed at the Lord's return

(Destroyed Them All)

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

The resurrection of "All" is seen below and the wicked are judged to eternal damnation, this is when the "Final Judgement" takes place (The End)

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

 Jesus clearly taught that the resurrection of "All" takes place on "The Last Day" this is in perfect agreement with the scripture above

John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Show your timeline chart of when you think the resurrection/rapture event will happen that has the elements you cited in your post (such as the last day). A timeline chart shows the organization of the elements as you believe them to be.

 

[Truth7t7]

Which is why we should refer to 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 as the resurrection/rapture event.

So show your timeline chart of when you think the resurrection/rapture event will happen.

Here is mine.


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(Roughly The Last 5 Years Of Earth's Existence)

1.) Daniel's 70 weeks or 490 literal days the Jews begin with a "Future" command to restore and build Jerusalem to Messiah, as they start planning to build the wall and street in Jerusalem, Daniel 9:24-27KJV

2.) Daniel's 70th week will see the "Future" (Man Of Sin/The Beast) make a covenant and he will proclaim to be Messiah God on Earth before the world, the 3.5 year tribulation begins, Daniel 9:24-27KJV

3.) The great tribulation will come to ending when the (Two Witnesses) are killed by the (Man Of Sin/The Beast), they lay dead in a Jerusalem street for 3.5 days, they are raised to heaven before a world watching as the final hours of earth's existence unfolds

4.) Jesus Christ returns in fire and final judgement as the resurrection of all takes place as the living in Christ are (Caught Up) the final judgement takes place as this earth is dissolved by the Lord's fire, Mortal takes on Immortality (In The Twinkling Of An Eye) "THE END" ETERNITY

JESUS IS THE LORD

 

[Truth7t7]

This is a picture of the physical return...
View attachment 92449

What happened to the Asian, Hispanic, Indian, Black, And other Saints in that picture, it appears they're all White? Lol!

Revelation 7:9-10KJV
9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

 

[CrowCross]

First, you force the Bible to contradict, now you think you have the ability to read minds???

Where have I forced the bible into a contradiction?

 

[CrowCross]

What happened to the Asian, Hispanic, Indian, Black, And other Saints in that picture, it appears they're all White? Lol!

Revelation 7:9-10KJV
9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

I'm not quite sure what your point is.

 

[CrowCross]

They are the same event.

Are they?
They don't fit the post-tribber view.....nor the pre-tribber view.

 

[Sel@h]

Are they?
They don't fit the post-tribber view.....nor the pre-tribber view.

sure it does…This is the 7th trumpet sounding!

 

[Truth7t7]

I'm not quite sure what your point is.

Just as your claim of two future returns and a pre-trib rapture is "False" your depiction of the saints returning with Jesus is "False"

Jesus Is The Lord

What happened to the Asian, Hispanic, Indian, Black, And other Saints in that picture, it appears they're all White? Lol!

Revelation 7:9-10KJV
9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.