I never started mine alone He started it.
Settle down. You know what I mean.
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I never started mine alone He started it.
You open your bible and read.
Not really. I started this journey all on my own. I know that sounds ridiculous but it's true.
Is that not what you are implying? Tou seem reesistant to what Romans 10 is sating.I don't recall saying that. Perhaps you could refresh my memory.
I believe it is possible for a heaven bound Christian to end up condemned. There are many passages describing this but I believe the parable in Luke 12:42-46 is one of the clearest.
In this parable, the word "manager" is singular, showing that there is only one faithful and wise manager being spoken of. Looking at the verses, we have:
a) V.42 tells us of a faithful and wise manager (obviously a saved man) who is put in charge while the master (Jesus) is away.
b) Vs. 43-44 say that the servant will be rewarded and put in charge of all the master's possessions if the master returns and finds that the servant has remained faithful.
c) Vs. 45-46 then tells us that the same servant will be condemned and assigned a place with the unbelievers (in hell) if the master returns and finds that he is sinning and mistreating the other servants etc.
To say that the servant will be assigned a place with unbelievers makes it obvious that he was a believer initially.
To me, this is one of several parables and passages which clearly show that a Christian can be rewarded or condemned, depending on his actions.
Loss of salvation is a vitally important issue.
What do you think of this parable?
So THAT'S you answer??I did, PAul was arrogant enough to think He could outdo Jesus, funny thing about men being a disciple and still had issues. and here you are just like Him trying to improve on Jesus, cant wait to see teh outcome.
Wrong.You are simply muddying the water over repentance to hide your inability to defend your statement that the prodigal son is a picture of a loss of salvation.
You have already lost that argument, and now attempt to divert attention elsewhere. See, I remember you. Remember (John 10:26)? I do. And you perverted it.
Stranger
No - YOU said it in post #337.What lie. I said we are his sheep before we believe. But, it is not I that said it, it is Christ. (John 10:26) The lie is what you are trying to bake. wordsmith
Stranger
And if only YOU would obey.I am not sure why BOL replied to a reply I gave which was for you, but hey live and let live ( as it won't always be so ). amazing how many want to add all sorts of things to christs finished work. If ONLY they would BELIEVE !
There was NO Bible when Paul wrote Romans 10:17.You open your bible and read.
Wrong.
I and others have exposed every pone of your embarrassingly ignorant positions on this and have blown you out of the water using nothing but Scripture.
John 10:26 is referring to Christians.
No - YOU said it in post #337.
Don't blame Jesus for YOUR lies.
We're only His Sheep because we believe - and not before. . .
Absolutely! I men even Peter and John to an extent spoke of stirring up our pure minds, reminding us and that we know these things. But its the Bible that does it. And are you so aged that you are no longer a young new Christian? If there is nothing more you can learn, then I will retract that question.
Yep. Heard that one before. Did I say it was a rented building? When you read the Bible the folks in that day gatjered together not only in sprit, but in body. I am not angry at you, but I do get angry at folks who say, "well. The Church isn't a building!" of course its not, but the Body of Christ (the church) physically came together and met for the purposes of worship. Paul demanded leadership and a sense of order. Makes no difference whether it was in a rented hall, a bought building, under an old oak tree or Wrigley Field. The fact is the church was the Body of Christ and they went to "church" which was a gathering.
"Church" is the Body of Christ: his folowers. His sheep. But they gather together in a body in one place. There are rules (so to speak) about how this is done. There is leadership and order.
Is that not what you are implying?
Si what happens when you get to Romabs 19:17?
You're not one of Christ's Sheep until you come to Him in faith and are Baptized (Mark 16:16).Oh, John 10:26 refers to Christians. That is real deep. But we wern't talking about that. We were stalking about the sheep being sheep before they believed. Remember? Remember how you twisted the Scripture to say just the opposite of what it says? Remember that? I do, oh wordsmith.
Stranger
So no one told you about Jesus or God until you read about him?
Hi Mick,I believe it is possible for a heaven bound Christian to end up condemned. There are many passages describing this but I believe the parable in Luke 12:42-46 is one of the clearest.
In this parable, the word "manager" is singular, showing that there is only one faithful and wise manager being spoken of. Looking at the verses, we have:
a) V.42 tells us of a faithful and wise manager (obviously a saved man) who is put in charge while the master (Jesus) is away.
b) Vs. 43-44 say that the servant will be rewarded and put in charge of all the master's possessions if the master returns and finds that the servant has remained faithful.
c) Vs. 45-46 then tells us that the same servant will be condemned and assigned a place with the unbelievers (in hell) if the master returns and finds that he is sinning and mistreating the other servants etc.
To say that the servant will be assigned a place with unbelievers makes it obvious that he was a believer initially.
To me, this is one of several parables and passages which clearly show that a Christian can be rewarded or condemned, depending on his actions.
Loss of salvation is a vitally important issue.
What do you think of this parable?