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Helen

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"no one knows where they go when they die," from Ecclesiastes, "we do not know what we will be," from 1 John, some other examples i guess

I know where I am going, not doubts at all....I just don't know if I will fill 'the Place' that Jesus prepared for me. ( John 14:2 )
We are called to Overcome...we will not know until that day whether we are in the company of the Overcomers. Revelation 2.
We continue to run the race...and fight the good fight of faith..like Paul.
 
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I know where I am going, not doubts at all
ah. well i do not know what i will be, but i don't worry about it any. You say you know, no doubts, and how you can say this i don't know, in the face of the Heaven Can Wait kid recanting, etc, but that is up to you.
 

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Hey @bbyrd009 ....Have you not read about assurance?
1 John 5:1 "These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life. "

Hebrews 10:22
"let us draw near with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water."

2 Timothy 1:12
"For this reason I also suffer these things, but I am not ashamed; for I know whom I have believed and I am convinced that He is able to guard what I have entrusted to Him until that day."


I must admit that you are a bit of a mystery to me. :)
I did read a while back that you said that you were not a 'christian'..yet often when you write..you sound as if you have faith in the Lord.
I don't understand the 'Groper' under your avatar?
Obviously I wont mind if you side step my questions...I may well be overstepping in asking them. :)
 

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Hey @bbyrd009 ....Have you not read about assurance?
1 John 5:1 "These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life. "
Hebrews 10:22
"let us draw near with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water."
2 Timothy 1:12
"For this reason I also suffer these things, but I am not ashamed; for I know whom I have believed and I am convinced that He is able to guard what I have entrusted to Him until that day."
you can believe all of those, and still not know what you will become, i guess
 

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I did read a while back that you said that you were not a 'christian'..yet often when you write..you sound as if you have faith in the Lord.
yes, i just can't identify with most peoples' definition of Christian, institutional Christian iow
I don't understand the 'Groper' under your avatar?
ha we are said to be "groping our way" although the verses i find in a quick search cast a different light lol, can't find the v right now. Mostly a way to remind myself that i am not here to speak some Law that others are compelled to follow, just because i have found Word
 
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@bbyrd009 Thanks for responding...I was not expecting it.
I do know what you mean about the word "christian" ...many have brought shame upon it that's for sure!
 

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yes, i just can't identify with most peoples' definition of Christian, institutional Christian iow
Yes, this is one problem with calling yourself a Christian. If everyone who did so really understood what Christ was like and was really wanted to become like him it might be OK, but...?

Of course, many do go ahead and ignorantly take on the label and then act as if that alone is making it all OK.
 
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We will all know when "the end" has come, because our lives will be a living and breathing hell. We won't be on a christian forum talking about it (which will be outlawed along with the Bible), we would be living it.

If you would take the time to investigate our Creator's Calendar, you would find that sense Israel has been back in the land, they have reestablished Gods Calendar. In the New Testament Paul writes this statement, I have no need to write to you brethren concerning the time and seasons, for you well know! these men were still following the Calendar established by God. It is true that no man knows the day or the hour, but if you understand the Times and Seasons then you will know when to watch. This September on or about the 21- the 23 the New Moon will be seen in Israel, and everywhere else, but Israel is the Place where God choose to place His Name. So when the new Moon is sighted it will be the Day of Trumpets, Yom Teruah. and if there are Jews and Arabs working in the field, the Jews will stop and go home and put on clean cloths, and set out a meal that was prepared before hand, the Arabs will keep working, because this means nothing to them, not part of their culture. So when the Scripture says the there are women at the grindstone, one will be taken and the other one left, know you know! the one taken was ready because he or she kept the living oracles, knew when to watch, the other was without understanding!
www/AVIV BARLEY NEW MOON SOCIETY.
God runs this universe according to His Calendar, weather we understand it or not!
 

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If every year you predict that it will be the end,
One year you will be right.

In 2014 and 2015 we had lunar eclipse's, 2014 we had one during Passover, and later that year we had one during Tabernacles, [Feast of Booths].
2015 we had another one during Passover, and again during Tabernacles, in my opinion this is significant, last month we had the solar eclipse, this one I am not sure of ? If you watch for the New Moon, on or about sept 21st - 23rd, and you see it at that moment it is the Day of Trumpets! Things might begin to happen in Israel ??????? I am not a Prophet, I only watch the Heavens like the people did in Israel 2000 years ago.
 

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In 2014 and 2015 we had lunar eclipse's, 2014 we had one during Passover, and later that year we had one during Tabernacles, [Feast of Booths].
2015 we had another one during Passover, and again during Tabernacles, in my opinion this is significant, last month we had the solar eclipse, this one I am not sure of ? If you watch for the New Moon, on or about sept 21st - 23rd, and you see it at that moment it is the Day of Trumpets! Things might begin to happen in Israel ??????? I am not a Prophet, I only watch the Heavens like the people did in Israel 2000 years ago.
I've heard about this. I believe it's called the "blood moon".
It does seem very strange.

It just seem to me that things are so bad.
It seems like the world was worse off in the dark ages and even before the year 1,000 AD.

It seems to be that there is no concensus on the end. Everyone seems to have their own opinion - I mean churches.

If there is no Agreement, how could we know who's correct?

Guess we'll know something by the end of September.
What I DO find very interesting is the desire of the Jews in Israel to rebuild their temple. If I'm not mistaken, Jesus cannot come back unless the temple is standing.

Any comment on that?
 

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yes, i just can't identify with most peoples' definition of Christian, institutional Christian iow

ha we are said to be "groping our way" although the verses i find in a quick search cast a different light lol, can't find the v right now. Mostly a way to remind myself that i am not here to speak some Law that others are compelled to follow, just because i have found Word
Gosh.
No one asked you what your idea of Christianity is.
Am I the only curious one here???
You DID write Christian under your avatar...
(I might have missed a post)
 

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About YOUR idea of Christianity!
well, i guess Amadeus' post, 69, covers my perspective too
What do you think makes YOU so unique?
ha dunno about unique, but when is the last time you heard a pastor's sermon on Nehushtan, or walking out your front door with no money, and going to another town, and eating what they feed you there? Actually doing what the Book says, iow. Even if you don't do it exactly like me, so what.
 
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well, i guess Amadeus' post, 69, covers my perspective too

ha dunno about unique, but when is the last time you heard a pastor's sermon on Nehushtan, or walking out your front door with no money, and going to another town, and eating what they feed you there? Actually doing what the Book says, iow. Even if you don't do it exactly like me, so what.
What was Christ really like?
 

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ha, your guess is as good as mine i guess. Yuda thought the most important Person who ever lived would have had more biography though huh
Very smart with your answers.

Jesus didn't come to tell us about Himself.
He came here to show us how WE are supposed to be.
More like Him.

So if you don't know how HE was, how do you know how You're supposed to be?
The beatitudes give you a clue as to how He was.
His courage in going to the cross for what He believed in is another clue.

Got any more?
 

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What was Christ really like?
We could give you scriptures which would describe him, but if you misunderstood them what is it that you would really know about him? If we have a vision [for we must have one in order not to perish], should not the vision being improving from "through a glass darkly" to "face to face"?

Pro_29:18 Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he.

1Co 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

The apostle Paul wrote those words and in spite of where he was walking with the Lord, he apparently still included himself in the "we" seeing "through a glass darkly".

Here John also hold our hope for better vision than we presently have:

"Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is." I John 3:2


As to how he is, your own answer of the beatitudes is, I believe, as good as it gets.