Was James confused?

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They could have their easy believism,
have their cake and eat it to...

But they do need to hear that they are wrong in their beliefs.
Jesus left us with commands, not suggestions.
oh, tbh i seriously doubt that Richard would deny that a good deed covers sins, and imo the argument is mostly one of semantics, owing to the influence that legalistic churches have exerted, by way of "standards" or the like, masquerading as "works."
 
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oh, tbh i seriously doubt that Richard would deny that a good deed covers sins, and imo the argument is mostly one of semantics, owing to the influence that legalistic churches have exerted, by way of "standards" or the like, masquerading as "works."
Maybe I could use the expression "good deeds"?
What's the difference??
I don't think it's a matter of semantics.
I believe it goes deeper than that...
 

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They could have their easy believism,
have their cake and eat it to...

But they do need to hear that they are wrong in their beliefs.
Jesus left us with commands, not suggestions.
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Have you sold all you have and given it to the poor???? That was one of His commands.
 
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Maybe I could use the expression "good deeds"?
What's the difference??
I don't think it's a matter of semantics.
I believe it goes deeper than that...
it might with some, and might be here, but i am mostly detecting a reaction/aversion to "standards," and similar religious maneuvers, unless i'm mistaken. Hard to tell from a wasp boomer i guess
 

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( To Stranger) Well.
Let's see.
YOU say works are not necessary.
SHE says we should give a drink of water to the thirsty.

To me it sounds like she's NOT agreeing with you...

We all heard you the first time...you don't need to keep repeating yourself..we are not stupid.

Do you know what..I have yet to read you say one positive thing about anyones posts.
All we see you do is disagree and correct people.
How about something positive for a change...and really surprise us!
 
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We all heard you the first time...you don't need to keep repeating yourself..we are not stupid.

Do you know what..I have yet to read you say one positive thing about anyones posts.
All we see you do is disagree and correct people.
How about something positive for a change...and really surprise us!
Ditto sweetie.
Read more carefully.
 

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BTW,
I will ALWAYS disagree when someone is wrong.

Wow...so everyone on here is wrong, and only you are right. You said it.

Heaven will be very lonely for you...you in your self-righteous mansion, and the rest of us deluded slobs in mud huts. Enjoy.
 
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Grace is great but you need the law to show you how to live for it is the law that appears to you, Titus 2:11,12 and to only have grace then sin will explode in you, Romans 5:20.

Don't amen this!:D
 

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Wow...so everyone on here is wrong, and only you are right. You said it.

Heaven will be very lonely for you...you in your self-righteous mansion, and the rest of us deluded slobs in mud huts. Enjoy.
Who can be more self-righteous than YOU who proclaims others' relationship with God and dares to foresee what kind of mansion they will be inhabiting.

You have done nothing but criticize me and proclaim what YOU believe my relationship to be with God and then complain because I state what I believe.

Do YOU not state what YOU believe.
What makes you think YOU are right?

Would you like me to make statements I believe to be wrong so that You could be happy? Sorry. No can do.

How about this...
Don't read my posts anymore if you can't stand to hear the truth that is easily found in scripture and not made up by man so that believing can be easier.

That would be nice...
 

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We all heard you the first time...you don't need to keep repeating yourself..we are not stupid.

Do you know what..I have yet to read you say one positive thing about anyones posts.
All we see you do is disagree and correct people.
How about something positive for a change...and really surprise us!
BTW,
I don't take instruction from you.
 

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***

Have you sold all you have and given it to the poor???? That was one of His commands.
Really?
Jesus said to go and sell everything?
Further confirmation that you DO NOT understand scripture.
Read a commentary or something.
Go to a good Church that could help you.
DO SOMETHING.
 

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it might with some, and might be here, but i am mostly detecting a reaction/aversion to "standards," and similar religious maneuvers, unless i'm mistaken. Hard to tell from a wasp boomer i guess
Well, unfortunately for those who don't agree,
GOD DOES HAVE STANDARDS.

He even made up the Natural Law for unbelievers.
Go figure.
 

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Well, unfortunately for those who don't agree,
GOD DOES HAVE STANDARDS.

He even made up the Natural Law for unbelievers.
Go figure.
ha well, but are those the same "standards" that i am referring to, i guess
the ones i mean are like a Pentecostal thing

ha and that is being kind, see, it's really an evil spirit
 

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ha well, but are those the same "standards" that i am referring to, i guess
the ones i mean are like a Pentecostal thing
What are they?
Jesus said what the standards are.
I could list them.

Did Jesus give us any commands?
What is a command if not a standard?

Is a command a request?
Does God request or does He command?

I doubt Pentecostals' God has a different standard than an EO God or a
Baptist God, or a....

There is only ONE GOD.
Right?