Who’s interpretation is true?

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The messenger brings the word from the authority, to the person.
Who’s interpretation is true?
the boy's interpretation is true, as long as there is no authority present to supersede his decision, isn’t it? Surly the fulfillment was according to boy and out the context and the spirit of the message that was sent. This seems to be the case in today’s society. To go by one’s own judgement and not according the authority who sent the word, and disregard for the judgement thereof, of which the messenger found abhorring.
Hi DPM,

You seem to be suggesting that we need authority to interpret scripture. If so, who's authority is TRUE when interpreting scripture?

If you are not suggesting that, disregard this post. ;)

Mary
 

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Hi DPM,

You seem to be suggesting that we need authority to interpret scripture. If so, who's authority is TRUE when interpreting scripture?

If you are not suggesting that, disregard this post. ;)

Mary


Jesus the Word of God made flesh is the authority, hence the actual authority is the Father who said "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased". hence the correct interpretation is the fulfillment thereof that is approved by the sender thereof.
 
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@GG, forgot to address

I go with the early Church father, the original members. and we have their writing/letters. the apostle Peter, Paul, James, Jude. and his disciples testimony, our brothers, Stephens, Ananias, doctor Luke, the minister preacher, like our sister Phebe. she also the first Bishop of the church at Rome, our ministering sister Euodias, and Syntyche. and which I cannot forget both of our bishops who is husban and wife, Priscilla and Aquila. and the list go on.
Yes. This is all well and good and I agree.
But there are many interpretations.
So then what do you do?
I like to check out what the early Christians believed, when all was still simple.
For instance, did you ever read the didache?
An instruction manual for Christians.
It would clear up a lot of the arguing that goes on around here.
I feel like they knew better than we do today.
Today we live in a feel good society. Even our faith has to be watered down so we could inhale it.
 

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no your are not responsible enough to interpret scripture. God speaks from His own view, hence He is the interpreter thereof, if you are not getting it. Jesus is the fulfillment thereof, therefore the interpretation thereof, according to the Father's satisfaction. if either one of those children in the comic strip didn't understand, they go ask who? wouldn't that be the authority or the one who spoke it, in this case their mother?

the giver of the instructions is the interpreter of the instructions, hence one has to have a relationship with that giver of instruction. could be parents could be one's boss on the job, could be one's teacher, could be the Lord God who gave you a Life to live. we don't know how to live that Life without the instructions to do so.
I agree.
So does the mother tell each one of us something different?
Is it our choice to be saved or does God pick who will be saved?
 

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Totally agree.
This has proved true in my life ...when a baby Christian He shows us one level in a scripture or chapter...then as we mature He shows it a little deeper...and so on.
I still maintain that no one yet..NO, we cannot KNOW all truth, I find that pretty arrogant when people say that they know...they are deluded..not even the early church fathers...none. In fact I would go as far as to say I don't believe those who wrote what God anointed them to write down which is now our bible...clearly understood all that they were writing under the anointing. But that is an aside.
Only God Himself knows all things. People may like to think that they know...but they don't.
Even Paul would not say that he knew all things clearly!

"We know in part...we see in part..through a glass darkly......1 Cor 13:9 - " For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away."
So you're saying that John the Apostle didn't know the truth and he didn't pass it on?
Why wouldn't he?
Would he pass on lies?
 

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you got me there, I read that wrong, I thought you knew better, and was surprised when I though you said otherwise. but it is a mistake on my part, you are correct on "WE are not responsible enough to interpret scripture." its no excuse but one sees so much garbage posted one can assume to see more of the same.

the bottom line on this though is we are incorrect and Jesus is correct, at all times, everywhere, 24/7, in His Kingdom and throughout creation.

its SOP on Christian sites to have threads like "what is a Christian" and Jesus is what a Son of God or a child of God is. a Ferrari is a Ferrari, a dodge isn't a Ferrari. and a Ferrari is counterfeit if it isn't made by the Ferrari in a Ferrari plant. therefore a child of God must be of God.


Joh 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.


hence that which is of heaven is in heaven and remains in heaven, that which isn't of heaven cannot ascend into heaven.
No problem with the misunderstanding.

Yes. Only that which is of heaven is going to heaven.
That's what Jesus meant in John 3. We must be born from above, if we want to go above. Those who do not know God, cannot go to be with a being they don't know.

Spirit draws spirit.
 

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Isn't interpreting where they twist scriptures to mean what they want it to mean so that it supports their theology????

Two of the most overlooked words in Paul's writings are BUT and NOW.
Sure.
What about IF.
That word is always unseen to some.
 
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Just saying that proves that you have bought into the nonsense.
Could you answer with more than one sentence?
I'm getting thick in my old age and don't understand what you mean.
I THINK you said that the situation changes and makes you believe different doctrine at different times. This might be wrong and I might have misunderstood.

So I asked you if this isn't situational ethics which have overrun our society. No absolute right or wrong, but what SEEMS to be right or wrong AT THE TIME.

So are you saying I'VE bought into the nonsense?
I believe I'm claiming the opposite...
 

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Jesus the Word of God made flesh is the authority, hence the actual authority is the Father who said "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased". hence the correct interpretation is the fulfillment thereof that is approved by the sender thereof.
So how come there are different ways of understanding scripture if there is only ONE authority?

Could it be that we listen to HUMANS instead of God??
Our favorite pastor, our favorite YOUTUBE minister (for goodness sake).
How about reading scripture with GOD in mind.
Using a little common sense...
And accepting what it plainly says instead of dancing around the bush.
 

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No problem with the misunderstanding.

Yes. Only that which is of heaven is going to heaven.
That's what Jesus meant in John 3. We must be born from above, if we want to go above. Those who do not know God, cannot go to be with a being they don't know.

Spirit draws spirit.

correct, you know few seem to get that.
 
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So how come there are different ways of understanding scripture if there is only ONE authority?

Could it be that we listen to HUMANS instead of God??
Our favorite pastor, our favorite YOUTUBE minister (for goodness sake).
How about reading scripture with GOD in mind.
Using a little common sense...
And accepting what it plainly says instead of dancing around the bush.


more like many attempts to interpret, no success in the sight of God though, reason being, the same who do so don't seek the Father's approval, they seek the approval of those around them. you know like politicians do, throw it up against the wall and see if it sticks. if it does run with it. which is ok if your are trying to find a product to sell to start an enterprise with.

but what I've noticed is, the food that sustains the life being lived is sot for by those who live it. rabbits don't eat what dogs do, because it doesn't sustain the life the rabbit is living.
 

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No absolute right or wrong, but what SEEMS to be right or wrong AT THE TIME.
interesting to me the amount of trouble one has extracting a single "absolute" truth from Scripture though
And accepting what it plainly says instead of dancing around the bush.
ha-quote us a plain statement then :D