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Galatians 3:20 "Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one".
I see you have a lot to learn. so good day.
Who is the "ONLY" True God Jesus referred to? (John 17:3)
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Okay...you like questions, here's one for you...
"Trinity" believers or no trinity believers...
..rapture believers or none rapture believers....
...does any of it affect our relation with God, or our ultimate salvation?
Why is it so important for you to prove your point? It changes nothing!
"Trinity" believers or no trinity believers...
..rapture believers or none rapture believers....
...does any of it affect our relation with God, or our ultimate salvation?
Why is it so important for you to prove your point? It changes nothing!
Yet Jesus said he SERVES God, and DENIED being God when accused of it.
And, even long after returning to heaven, we see~
1 Corinthians 15:24- Then comes the end, when he hands over the kingdom to God, even the Father, when he abolishes all rule and all authority and power.
25- For he must reign until He puts all his enemies under his feet.
26- The last enemy to be abolished is death.
27- For God has put everything under his feet. Now when it says “everything” is put under him,
[Now pay ATTENTION!]
..... it is obvious that He who puts everything under him is >>>>>>> the exception.
28- When everything is subject to Christ, then the son himself will also be subject to the One who subjected everything to him, so that God may be all in all.
And, even long after returning to heaven, we see~
1 Corinthians 15:24- Then comes the end, when he hands over the kingdom to God, even the Father, when he abolishes all rule and all authority and power.
25- For he must reign until He puts all his enemies under his feet.
26- The last enemy to be abolished is death.
27- For God has put everything under his feet. Now when it says “everything” is put under him,
[Now pay ATTENTION!]
..... it is obvious that He who puts everything under him is >>>>>>> the exception.
28- When everything is subject to Christ, then the son himself will also be subject to the One who subjected everything to him, so that God may be all in all.
Helen
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What makes you right??
Just saying it and believing it does make you right and us wrong!!
Phil 2:7 "But made Himself of no reputation, and took upon Him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men"
That confirms, it does not take away from who He IS, and has always been.
While He was here on earth He was subject to the Father as a man...to reverse what happened in the Garden by a man.
We know that at the end (at His capture) of His ministry, He conformed that He was The I AM..."and they fell backward"....they could not stand in His presence.
Just saying it and believing it does make you right and us wrong!!
Phil 2:7 "But made Himself of no reputation, and took upon Him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men"
That confirms, it does not take away from who He IS, and has always been.
While He was here on earth He was subject to the Father as a man...to reverse what happened in the Garden by a man.
We know that at the end (at His capture) of His ministry, He conformed that He was The I AM..."and they fell backward"....they could not stand in His presence.
Helen
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When Jesus used the phrase "I AM" He made revelations regarding His identity and nature.
These revelations made it clear to all that He was claiming to be much more than a rabbi or prophet; Jesus claimed to be the Messiah......God in human form.
"I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger" (John 6:35).
"I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life" (John 8:12).
"I am the door. If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture" (John 10:9).
"I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep" (John 10:11).
"I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live" (John 11:25).
"I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" (John 14:6).
"I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser" (John 15:1).
"I am He" "I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I Am He, ye shall die in your sins." John 8:24
These revelations made it clear to all that He was claiming to be much more than a rabbi or prophet; Jesus claimed to be the Messiah......God in human form.
"I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger" (John 6:35).
"I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life" (John 8:12).
"I am the door. If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture" (John 10:9).
"I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep" (John 10:11).
"I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live" (John 11:25).
"I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" (John 14:6).
"I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser" (John 15:1).
"I am He" "I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I Am He, ye shall die in your sins." John 8:24
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Jesus prayed to the Father, Jesus taught pray to the Father. praying to a three being godhead IMO would not be the example of Jesus.
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@theQuestion ... There is One who has all Truth...and last time I looked it wasn't you! 
No caps or lower case in biblical Greek.
Did GOD make Himself of no reputation and become a servant?
"I AM" is a mis-translation of the Hebrew at Ex 3, and John 8 was in Greek, Jesus saying "ego eimi", which EVERYONE used since it meant so many things, such as "I was, will be, have been", etc. Jesus wasn't talking like a Rapper.
Jesus is STILL subject to God- as in the scripture I quoted, and which you quickly ignored.
Dcopymope
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Just think of it as a chain of command. You can't have the holy spirit without the word, and you can't have the word without the Father, who sent both the word and the holy spirit. Its not hard for me to understand, I really don't understand why its so hard for others.
Really?
When Jesus said his FATHER is the.... ONLY...true God?
And that he is STILL in subjection to Him (not 'Them')?
Dcopymope
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That's what I just said actually. What do you think I meant by the term "chain of command"? Or are you just like one of those types typically seen here who disagree's because you just like to argue? All power has been given to Jesus in heaven and earth, who being the word in the beginning was before all things, and created all things seen and unseen. That still makes him God in the flesh nonetheless, unless you believe that you were created by a created being, which would be blasphemy.
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Dcopymope
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Do you believe scripture when it clearly describes Jesus as the word who WAS God to start with and with God? Do you believe Paul when he describes Jesus as being that "spirit of God" responsible for the six day creation? Do you believe scripture when it clearly states the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost bear record in heaven as one?
Dcopymope, please post the scriptures one at a time- so we all can look at and discuss each one in detail.
Dcopymope
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You have google don't you? You should try posting them yourself.
I already did, there is only one God, and that God bear record in heaven as the Father, THEN the word made flesh, and THEN the holy spirit. You just don't like the answer, and I see this is going to just be an argument, so I just might be wasting my time.
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