Who is the "ONLY" True God Jesus referred to? (John 17:3)
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Jesus lay aside His glory to come...the Great Creator became our saviour. Emanuel God with us....He picked it up again when He returned.
Grace- God is STILL with Christians.
That name never meant that God left heaven to become a man.
Or that ONE of THEM did....
Power and Authority was never RETURNED to him, but was GIVEN to him.
Agree on the part that God is always with us...but there it ends./
He laid it down, and He took is back up.
Each to their own...only time will prove with whom the truth lays. No sweat.
i do think of it as a chain of command, me>the Son>the Father. thats the route my prayer takes. the trinity removes that chain, Father, Son is all the same according to the doctrine you can pray to the Son just as you pray to the Father, its not the example of Jesus IMO.
101G
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GINOLJC, to all. @KBCid, no, not my conclusion, but God's conclusion. so I never came to any three, just NUMERICALLY two of the SAME ONE PERSON. and NO, not two Gods, but ONE GOD "ONLY". also let me point this out, Eve nor Adam are beings, they are "creatures", creations of The Lord Jesus, the only TRUE GOD, in or out of Flesh. now as for the the image and the meaning of Eve being formed, one simple answer, "ANOTHER". Eve is a Adam or Another of God's Image, which is "man". understand, God came in his own IMAGE to save mankind, supportive scripture, Romans 5:14 "Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come". another word for "figure" here is "Form" as translated in the KJV. and it means, The visible shape or configuration of something, hence Phil 2:6, and John 1. God was made flesh. let's see this from the begining. the first man/Adam was formed on day 3. the another Adam/man now known as Eve, yes, Eve is a man, (just a female man) taken out of the man is called a woman because she was taken out of man(see Genesis 2:21-23) . the only thing that was created in the Adam's was the sexes on day 6. this is the point that I was getting at which I see now you did not recognized, the woman is "ANOTHER" of the first formed man. understand the First Adam formed was in the image of God, "one". just as Adam the man (ONE CREATURE) was made two creatures, God is "Another" of himself in flesh but neither form or made, but shared, meaning only one PERSON, the SAME PERSON, or was what we do in flesh have offsprings, or as the Greek word express it G1085 γένος genos. and that word means, kin. as in our Lord case KINSMAN Redeemer. and the KJV can translate the word as KJV: born, country(-man), diversity, generation, kind(-red), nation, offspring, stock. THERE IS OUR, OR, AT LEAST MY DOCTORAL BELIEF, "diversity" see, as Adam, as with Eve, God is one, as a Diversity of himself in flesh and bone. not FORMED as Adam and Eve, but a "DIVERSITY" of himself in flesh. supportive scripture, Isaiah 43:10 "Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me". now a side note, all those ministers who say they are mini God or as some say they are God also, that's a flat out..... let me put it this way, a word that begins with the letter "L" and rhymes with eye. see, that's why our Lord is a diversity, or offspring, or "ANOTHER" of himself by a virgin birth. in the Hebrew this is understood as an H259 echad, numerically speaking.
so KBCid, sorry that you didn't understand what I was saying. no problems, I thought you did.
"our Lord is a diversity, or offspring, or "ANOTHER" of himself by a virgin birth."
Oh my Godfrey!
The Divine Clone, who was a BabbyGod, and Teen God.
Oh my Godfrey!
The Divine Clone, who was a BabbyGod, and Teen God.
The Ultimate Game with Smoke and Mirrors, the Catholic-Fabricated 'Holy Trinity'.
Clear Polytheism excused away with the goofiest of ploys:
Can't Understand it? It's a 'Sacred Mystery'!
3 Gods? No They are 'One' God!
Son of God doesn't mean "son"- it only means (add your own blah-blah of choice).
Firstborn only means Jesus was first- he was never born; He always existed!
Begotten doesn't mean born- or begotten- it means (add your own blah-blah of choice).
'Holy Ghost'? No, we don't use 'Ghost' anymore; we use SPIRIT; why? (add your own blah-blah of choice).
Then an Army of fabricated words, designed to numb any mind trying to figure them out:
Trinity, a Triune Godhead, the Triunity, Co-Equal God Beings, Godhead, a Hypostaic Union, Divine essences, Divine Natures, a God-the-Son,
a God-the-GHOST, Hypostasis, Homoousios, Perichoresis , a Godman, Omnipresence, Incarnation, a God who is a Sacred Mystery,
a God 'in three persons', Dual natures, a reincarnate God, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity,
a third person of the trinity, Godness, multipersonal God, etc, etc, etc
As if Jesus, the prophets or the Apostles taught ANY of that!
3 Co-Supreme Beings.
3 Gods
Clear Polytheism excused away with the goofiest of ploys:
Can't Understand it? It's a 'Sacred Mystery'!
3 Gods? No They are 'One' God!
Son of God doesn't mean "son"- it only means (add your own blah-blah of choice).
Firstborn only means Jesus was first- he was never born; He always existed!
Begotten doesn't mean born- or begotten- it means (add your own blah-blah of choice).
'Holy Ghost'? No, we don't use 'Ghost' anymore; we use SPIRIT; why? (add your own blah-blah of choice).
Then an Army of fabricated words, designed to numb any mind trying to figure them out:
Trinity, a Triune Godhead, the Triunity, Co-Equal God Beings, Godhead, a Hypostaic Union, Divine essences, Divine Natures, a God-the-Son,
a God-the-GHOST, Hypostasis, Homoousios, Perichoresis , a Godman, Omnipresence, Incarnation, a God who is a Sacred Mystery,
a God 'in three persons', Dual natures, a reincarnate God, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity,
a third person of the trinity, Godness, multipersonal God, etc, etc, etc
As if Jesus, the prophets or the Apostles taught ANY of that!
3 Co-Supreme Beings.
3 Gods
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101G
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I agree with you to a point. but I always ask people what is their doctoral belief, meaning the basic of their doctrine. so you don't believe in 3 Gods, good. so what do you believe when it come to the Godhead?.
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"Godhead".
God has no head.
One of Three isn't a Head Godbeing.
The Greek theiótes – meaning deity manifested (made known, i.e. the revelation of God (His attributes)
which reveals Himself for people to know, was translated as "Godhead",
a very misleading term.
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101G
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God is the Head/authorty of his body. and there is only one HEAD, and that head is only one Person.
That like saying I am (OOPS! Not claiming to be God, Trinitarians!) = that's like saying I am a Manhead!
Say that guy in the picture looks alot like my older brother at that age. Could it be? Nahhh. He was born too long ago.
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