The Identity of the Two Witnesses of Revelation

[101G]

Understand, John the baptist, and the Lord Jesus had fiery mouth, meaning they spoke the truth.

the key word here is "devour". Revelation 11:5 "And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed". now Jeremiah 5:14 "Wherefore thus saith the LORD God of hosts, Because ye speak this word, behold, I will make my words in thy mouth fire, and this people wood, and it shall devour them.”

the Fire here, is the word of God.

 

[bbyrd009]

i agree that they fit one of the criteria, but seemingly not others.

 

[101G]

i agree that they fit one of the criteria, but seemingly not others.

well like what?

 

[bbyrd009]

well like what?

hmm. Any of them, that i can see; laying in the street dead for days, people giving presents because of their deaths, John Baptist (at least) coming back to life...

 

[101G]

hmm. Any of them, that i can see; laying in the street dead for days, people giving presents because of their deaths, John Baptist (at least) coming back to life...

"laying in the street dead for days". neither John nor the Lord Jesus had a proper burials. and the phrase "bodies in the street" is in reference to the way they died in public view, violent deaths. as for giving present, scripture, Matthew 27:62-66 "Now the next day, that followed the day of the preparation, the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate, Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again. Command therefore that the sepulchre be made sure until the third day, lest his disciples come by night, and steal him away, and say unto the people, He is risen from the dead: so the last error shall be worse than the first. Pilate said unto them, Ye have a watch: go your way, make it as sure as ye can. So they went, and made the sepulchre sure, sealing the stone, and setting a watch".
NOW WATCH WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THE RESURRECTION WITH CHIEF PRIEST & THE ELDERS.
Matthew 28:11-15 "Now when they were going, behold, some of the watch came into the city, and shewed unto the chief priests all the things that were done. And when they were assembled with the elders, and had taken counsel, they gave large money unto the soldiers, Saying, Say ye, His disciples came by night, and stole him away while we slept. And if this come to the governor's ears, we will persuade him, and secure you. So they took the money, and did as they were taught: and this saying is commonly reported among the Jews until this day.

 

[bbyrd009]

neither John nor the Lord Jesus had a proper burials

huh?

 

[Helen]

Jesus is the Bible, the WORD of God, both OT and NT, and the Lord Jesus is one. so now the other witness please, I'll be waiting for that answer.

No way....if so ..” here we go again” ...then the bible is a forth part of the

 

[101G]

No way....if so ..” here we go again” ...then the bible is a forth part of the

No worries, Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega. Jesus is from Genesis 1:1 to the end of Revelation.
Hebrews 10:7 "Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God". those volume of the book that is written of him is the OT.

 

[101G]

huh?

not huh, but Uh-huh..... (smile).

 

[101G]

Another point of the two witness. Only the Lord Jesus and John the Baptist was the only two alive to God at that time, meaning they had the Spirit of God from birth.

 

[bbyrd009]

Another point of the two witness. Only the Lord Jesus and John the Baptist was the only two alive to God at that time, meaning they had the Spirit of God from birth.

you'll have yourself all talked into it here in a minute, i guess

 

[101G]

you'll have yourself all talked into it here in a minute, i guess

, I'm just a watchman on the wall, I just warn. but I rest in Revelation 22:11.......

 

[bbyrd009]

No way....if so ..” here we go again” ...then the bible is a forth part of the

^

as you pretty much demo when you get all coy every time a Q is asked of you, wadr @101G

not huh, but Uh-huh..... (smile).

 

[Jun2u]

I have written a study on who the "two witnesses" of Revelation are, around when they will appear, and around when they will die. The study can be found here in English The Identity of the Two Witnesses of Revelation | Wisdom of God or in Spanish here La Identidad de los Dos Testigos del Apocalipsis | Sabiduria de Dios . Let us begin a discussion on these matters.

I did not read your study because you admitted in Post #3 that you didn't know the identity of the Two Witnesses

The title of this thread is: "The Identity of the Two Witnesses of Revelation." If you didn't know who they are why post it? Are you glutton to be labeled a liar?

To God Be The Glory

 

[Jun2u]

we know that the ministry of John the baptist and the Lord Jesus carried over to 3 1/2 years or 42 month. so that put them on the money as to time of ministry.

in relation to all men.
Both the Lord Jesus and Moses was mediators.
both John and Elijah was sent before the Lord. but John's sending is documented in the new testament as to exactly as what he is to do "AS" the Elijah to come but not the actual man Elijah himself..

The Book of Revelation is full of symbolism and parabolic in nature. It is one of the many difficult book to understand.

The Two Witnesses can only be understood by reading Revelation 11:1-13.

Note that the term “Two Witnesses” is only found in Revelation 11:3 and no where else in Scripture. You must take into account the “Two Olive” trees and the “Two Candlesticks.”

Pay special attention to the word “trees” in how you understand it, because this word is the key to understanding the identity of the two witnesses.

If it’s any consolation, I concur with the 31/2 years and 42 months, but I disagree with your pick that Jesus and John are in view, and that they are the Two Witnesses.

To God Be The Glory

 

[Jun2u]

Perhaps there is something written in there that correlates with identifying the two witnesses. But, I guess you won't find out, since you won't read. I'll let idiots remain idiots.

From one idiot to another, I thank you for your remarks. Typical self pride!

Please note I've never called you a liar. In post #3, you have declared: "Who they are exactly is still a mystery. If I knew, I would've plainly told you." Tell me if this is not an admission of falsehood.

You should have put a question mark after the title!

To God Be The Glory

 

[ScottA]

we know that the ministry of John the baptist and the Lord Jesus carried over to 3 1/2 years or 42 month. so that put them on the money as to time of ministry.

This is a reference to "a time, times, and half a time." 3 1/2 years is "half a time."

But both passages...are riddles.

 

[Helen]

Perhaps there is something written in there that correlates with identifying the two witnesses. But, I guess you won't find out, since you won't read. I'll let idiots remain idiots.

I think you are one of the most obnoxious and rude people on this site...in post #55 You just cannot resist getting personal...
...there you go AGAIN very free with the word IDIOTS for anyone YOU consider not agreeing with or seeing things like you do...good lord, who died and made you the great judge!!

 

[Helen]

Note that the term “Two Witnesses” is only found in Revelation 11:3 and no where else in Scripture. You must take into account the “Two Olive” trees and the “Two Candlesticks.”

I actually see them all as the same thing...Just another way of saying it again ...Revelation does that many times.

 

[101G]

The Book of Revelation is full of symbolism and parabolic in nature. It is one of the many difficult book to understand.

The Two Witnesses can only be understood by reading Revelation 11:1-13.

Note that the term “Two Witnesses” is only found in Revelation 11:3 and no where else in Scripture. You must take into account the “Two Olive” trees and the “Two Candlesticks.”

Pay special attention to the word “trees” in how you understand it, because this word is the key to understanding the identity of the two witnesses.

If it’s any consolation, I concur with the 31/2 years and 42 months, but I disagree with your pick that Jesus and John are in view, and that they are the Two Witnesses.

To God Be The Glory

first, thanks for the response. second the “Two Olive” trees and the “Two Candlesticks.” Zechariah 4:11-14 the TWO anointed Ones. John the baptist was anointed with the Spirit from birth as well as the Lord Jesus. and Two Candlesticks, scripture, John 5:31 "If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.John 5:32-35 "There is another that beareth witness of me; (STOP DO WE NEED TO GO ANY FURTHER?) and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true. Ye sent unto John, and he bare witness unto the truth. But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved. He was a burning and a shining light: (THERE'S THAT CANDLESTICK) and ye were willing for a season to rejoice in his light".