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[VictoryinJesus]

bbyrd009, we all have different experiences with the Word and I realize what makes an impression on one person, might not even warrant a second read by another. I have mentioned this passage of scripture multiple times on here, because for me; Acts 7 made an impact.

Steven is about to be stoned for his witness and he said:

Acts 7:56-60 KJV
[56] ... Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
The Son of man stands, not sits. Not while Stephen is stoned.
[57] Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord, [58] And cast him out of the city, and stoned him : and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.
Laying their clothes at Saul's feet, for me, implies Saul gave the order.
[59] And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God , and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. [60] And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.

It is debatable what "lay not this sin to their charge" means. For me, until God reveals otherwise: it was the cry of the Spirit(Christ). Not Stephen.

Speaking of "hot coals" of conviction on a person's head: Saul is blinded. He suffers. Is brought to his knees, made low, to see all his fleshly accomplishments are all "dung". Saul is redeemed(plucked from the fire). Again, for me, an answered prayer. Saul becomes Paul.

Later: Stephen is still on Paul's mind.
Acts 22:19-21 KJV
[19] And I said, Lord, they know that I imprisoned and beat in every synagogue them that believed on thee: [20] And when the blood of thy martyr Stephen was shed, I also was standing by, and consenting unto his death, and kept the raiment of them that slew him. [21] And he said unto me, Depart: for I will send thee far hence unto the Gentiles.


Romans 13:4 KJV
[4] For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

Jesus Christ standing. Not sitting. Could this be a better definition of "slaying in the Spirit" instead of today's definition? By the way: I couldn't even find "slaying in the Spirit" in the bible?

"Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good." for "he(the LORD) beareth not the sword in vain"

 

[amadeus]

The Apostle Paul did address this issue or a similar one, I believe, here:

"Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Ce, that there are contentions among you.
Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?" I Cor 1:10-13

Paul makes it clear where he stands on this. Before anyone considers throwing out what Paul wrote they need to understand why he stood with Jesus rather than against Him. When someone really understands the message of Jesus, he will not fail to recognize the same message in what Paul wrote.

Jesus expressed where men stood in understanding or see the things of God here:

"And he took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the town; and when he had spit on his eyes, and put his hands upon him, he asked him if he saw ought.
And he looked up, and said, I see men as trees, walking.
After that he put his hands again upon his eyes, and made him look up: and he was restored, and saw every man clearly." Mark 8:23-25

The Apostle Paul put it this way and included himself among those who saw still through a glass darkly:

"For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known." I Cor 13:12

The message was the same. The Master understood how men saw things and their need for help to improve their vision. Paul recognized that he, himself, also was still seeing in effect, "men as trees walking".

 

[101G]

Well I hope some wise people like @ScottA ,@101G or @FHII can enlighten us to the reason why. ;)

GINOLJC, @BG, been out of town the last few weeks, just now catching up. I'll back track abd see if I can find what VJ question is.

 

[bbyrd009]

Jesus Christ standing. Not sitting. Could this be a better definition of "slaying in the Spirit" instead of today's definition? By the way: I couldn't even find "slaying in the Spirit" in the bible?

ya, it is a church thing, not a real thing imo.

As to the rest, i have given it a week, and cannot comment, at least can't add anything to A's post.

 

[Helen]

GINOLJC, @BG, been out of town the last few weeks, just now catching up. I'll back track abd see if I can find what VJ question is.

Well it good to know that you have been away.....hope you had a good time.
But we are even more glad for you to be back here again....I thought you had abandoned us!!
Welcome back to the site....

 

[101G]

My question is not a "scripture' , but I do have a question.
If it conflicts with the subject at hand I can start a new thread. :)

I am just mystified by something that I have NEVER ever come across before.
I was saved back in 1964 ..53 years ago...and never until this Christianity Board Site have I ever encountered Christians which are so "anti-Paul".
I must say it has totally amazed me.
The fact that we are Christians...New Covenant ...I thought meant we believed in the NT writings. Yet it seems some would discredit about 80% of it.
The New Covenant starts after the cross and renting of the veil ..breaking down the wall of separation between us and God...so the New Testament starts in Acts.

Can anyone tell me WHY so many, who that say they are NT believers are so anti Paul. I just don't understand.
Are they old testament believers or what...their NT bible must be very small!
Any 'light' on the reason why? I am clueless here.
Thanks.

GINOLJC. BG, there is no one finger you can put your hand on. because, scripture, 2 Thessalonians 2:10 - 12. "And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness". as M.C. Hammer said, "you can't touch that". just my opinion, the simple answer is, "FEAR", fear of the truth. and this arise from many factors. a. ignorance. b. disobedience. c. self willed. Let's shed so light on these, and go straight for the juggler. a. ignorance. all OT believers must surely know that what was written afore is to be filled afterward. and that fulfillment is the "BELIEVING" writing of the NT. scripture, Isaiah 43:10 "Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me". see, to KNOW, and UNDERSTAND that God is, all the scriptures, (OT and NT) must be "BELIEVED". the scripture said, his "SERVANTS", and his "CHOSEN". the apostle Paul is a servant and is chosen, by God, the Lord Jesus himself. just as Peter Jame and John, ect. so any OT only person is violating God word when they say it's just the OT.

Now the apostles, and why some are anti Paul. a. b. and c. if one knew what an apostle, a prophet, or a teacher is, who is an ambassador. an ambassador don't speak his or her own mind, but the one who sent them. I have found personally that the apostle Paul is speaking exactly what the Lord Jesus said in "DETAIL". see, that's the stumpier, details. also, many people are listening to their own TEACHERS about these details, and having itching ears to hear. some just are as stated self willed. no one can tell them anything. and lastly, many just don't read with the Holy Spirit in Patience. yes, in Patience, waiting for the revelation. as the apostle peter said, add to your faith, and Patience is one to add, see 2 Peter 1:5 & 6

But BG, there are so many factors that hinder people in their anti Paul stance, some are not Berea, see Acts 17:10-12.

so there is no one answer to this question. it could be Academic, personal, or just plain out right hard hearted. so I have no easy answer to your question.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

ya, it is a church thing, not a real thing imo.

As to the rest, i have given it a week, and cannot comment, at least can't add anything to A's post.

Read this the other day. I don't if helps at all.

Isaiah 6:5-11 KJV
[5] Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts. [6] Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar: [7] And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged. [8] Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me. [9] And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. [10] Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed. [11] Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate,

 

[Helen]

@101G

Well for someone who says that they don't have an answer...THANK YOU...that was an excellent answer.....
The first time I 'met' that anti-Paul thing on here a few months back it kind of knocked me sideways...as I had never met it before.
I love all Pauls writing and must admit I probably spend more time reading him than any other of the scriptures besides Genesis.
I am well 'soaked' in Paul
Again...thank you. ✟

 

[101G]

Acts 7:56-60 KJV
[56] ... Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
The Son of man stands, not sits. Not while Stephen is stoned.
[57] Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord, [58] And cast him out of the city, and stoned him : and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.
Laying their clothes at Saul's feet, for me, implies Saul gave the order.
[59] And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God , and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. [60] And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.

@VJ, on these Acts verses, notice it said that the "son of man" was standing. and the son of man is SPIRITUAL. remember, our brother Stephen is in the Spirit, scripture, Acts 7:55 "But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God". so clearly our brother was in a vision of Heaven. right hand is POWER, which the Lord Jesus is, scripture, 1 Corinthians 1:24 "But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God". now the question why the Lord Jesus is standing?. as high Priest he sits, because a sitting high priest is "FINISH" from his work if he was on earth. but our high Priest is passed into the heavens, scripture, Hebrews 4:14 "Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession". notice, as son of God, (as a man) he is mediator. so by being in the Spirit, it is the Son of Man (Spirit) that he saw standing, why? because of his profession, or acknowledgment. an a acknowledgment, as here is the acceptance of the truth or existence of something. the truth that our brother Stephen was acknowledging is that the Lord Jesus is God almighty as mediator. scripture, Galatians 3:20 "Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one". Jesus Christ is the one in the SAME PERSON, Spirit/God and Spirit shared in Flesh/as a man. this is a powerful statement made by our brother. I suggest you re-read Galatians 3:20. he was following in the footsteps of God in flesh. listen, Luke 23:34 "Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots". so what our brother was doing, was what his master did, "FORGAVE". see, our mediator, THE SPIRIT, his work as a man, well let the bible speak, 1 John 2:1 & 2 "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate (mediator, according to the Spirit) with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world". understand, there is more to our brother profession than meet the eye. as God our mediator is a forgiving God as well as our brother Stephen knows or acknowledge as a follower/disciple of Christ. "Lay not this sin to their charge". and this statement affected the chief sinner in the bunch, Saul, who the Lord Jesus later,chose, (see acts chapter 9). he was approving of the stoning by laying his coat at their feet, (see Deuteronomy 17:7). and also notice as with our Lord, they took our brother Stephen outside the city and killed him.

so VJ, there is so much more to these verses than meet the eye, intercessory, repentance, profession, fulfillment, witness, acknowledgement (Lay not), salvation, faith, belief, works, and the list goes on. just look what our brother Stephen did, the same things our Lord did.

now start writing down what the Lord did, and what our brother Stephen did, one will see a pattern. start with "forgiveness", and work your way down the list.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Question:

Zechariah 13:1-9 KJV
[1] In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.

That fountain is Christ.

[2] And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord of hosts, that I will cut off the names of the idols out of the land, and they shall no more be remembered: and also I will cause the prophets and the unclean spirit to pass out of the land.

Does this not plainly say there will be no more prophets after Jesus. (The fountain)

3] And it shall come to pass, that when any shall yet prophesy, then his father and his mother that begat him shall say unto him, Thou shalt not live; for thou speakest lies in the name of the Lord : and his father and his mother that begat him shall thrust him through when he prophesieth. [4] And it shall come to pass in that day, that the prophets shall be ashamed every one of his vision, when he hath prophesied; neither shall they wear a rough garment to deceive:

[5] But he shall say, I am no prophet, I am an husbandman; for man taught me to keep cattle from my youth. [6] And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends. [7] Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the Lord of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.

What little ones?

8] And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord , two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. [9] And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.


Revelation 3:14-20 KJV
[14] And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; [15] I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. [16] So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. [17] Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: [18] I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. [19] As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

[20] Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

With him, spoken singular.
"And will sup with him"
Relationship.
Intimacy.

1 Corinthians 11:19-20 KJV
[19] For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. [20] When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

 

[101G]

Question:

Zechariah 13:1-9 KJV
[1] In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.

That fountain is Christ.

[2] And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord of hosts, that I will cut off the names of the idols out of the land, and they shall no more be remembered: and also I will cause the prophets and the unclean spirit to pass out of the land.

Does this not plainly say there will be no more prophets after Jesus. (The fountain)

3] And it shall come to pass, that when any shall yet prophesy, then his father and his mother that begat him shall say unto him, Thou shalt not live; for thou speakest lies in the name of the Lord : and his father and his mother that begat him shall thrust him through when he prophesieth. [4] And it shall come to pass in that day, that the prophets shall be ashamed every one of his vision, when he hath prophesied; neither shall they wear a rough garment to deceive:

[5] But he shall say, I am no prophet, I am an husbandman; for man taught me to keep cattle from my youth. [6] And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends. [7] Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the Lord of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.

What little ones?

8] And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord , two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. [9] And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.


Revelation 3:14-20 KJV
[14] And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; [15] I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. [16] So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. [17] Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: [18] I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. [19] As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

[20] Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

With him, spoken singular.
"And will sup with him"
Relationship.
Intimacy.

1 Corinthians 11:19-20 KJV
[19] For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. [20] When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

VJ, there's much in what you asked, most you have right. getting a little late, but I'll address this tommorrow, maybe in the evening lots on the plate tomorrow.

 

[101G]

GINOLJC, @VictoryinJesus,
Zechariah 13:1-9 KJV

Zechariah 13:1 "In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness".
Yes this is Christ Jesus our Lord, the the living water, which he on the house of David, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, in the administration of Gospel ordinances, GRACE and Mercy was granted as with the redemptive process of his cleansing blood.

Zechariah 13:2 "And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will cut off the names of the idols out of the land, and they shall no more be remembered: and also I will cause the prophets and the unclean spirit to pass out of the land".
Does this not plainly say there will be no more prophets after Jesus. (The fountain)
NO, only the unclean one. because God set in his church prophets, see 1 Corinthians 12:28

Zechariah 13:7 "Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones".
the little one is the disciples, his sheep. this is in cross reference to Matthews 26:31 and John 16:32 read it. VJ, there is more to this one scripture than meet the eye, especially when it comes to the oneness of God in diversity.

[20] Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

With him, spoken singular.
"And will sup with him"
Relationship.
Intimacy.

JV, I had to Pause here, because I was getting ready to knock U out in LOVE. BINGO this is what I been saying all alone. Listen "With him, spoken singular", the OVERCOMER read the 7 church letters.
"And will sup with him" John 14:23 "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him John 14:20 "At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you".

"Relationship". in reading all the above, listen, it culminates in the relationship of the Son and the Father in Zechariah 13:7 with us in John chapter 14 and the revelation chapter you gave 3:20.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

@VJ, on these Acts verses, notice it said that the "son of man" was standing. and the son of man is SPIRITUAL. remember, our brother Stephen is in the Spirit, scripture, Acts 7:55 "But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God". so clearly our brother was in a vision of Heaven. right hand is POWER, which the Lord Jesus is, scripture, 1 Corinthians 1:24 "But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God". now the question why the Lord Jesus is standing?. as high Priest he sits, because a sitting high priest is "FINISH" from his work if he was on earth. but our high Priest is passed into the heavens, scripture, Hebrews 4:14 "Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession". notice, as son of God, (as a man) he is mediator. so by being in the Spirit, it is the Son of Man (Spirit) that he saw standing, why? because of his profession, or acknowledgment. an a acknowledgment, as here is the acceptance of the truth or existence of something. the truth that our brother Stephen was acknowledging is that the Lord Jesus is God almighty as mediator. scripture, Galatians 3:20 "Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one". Jesus Christ is the one in the SAME PERSON, Spirit/God and Spirit shared in Flesh/as a man. this is a powerful statement made by our brother. I suggest you re-read Galatians 3:20. he was following in the footsteps of God in flesh. listen, Luke 23:34 "Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots". so what our brother was doing, was what his master did, "FORGAVE". see, our mediator, THE SPIRIT, his work as a man, well let the bible speak, 1 John 2:1 & 2 "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate (mediator, according to the Spirit) with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world". understand, there is more to our brother profession than meet the eye. as God our mediator is a forgiving God as well as our brother Stephen knows or acknowledge as a follower/disciple of Christ. "Lay not this sin to their charge". and this statement affected the chief sinner in the bunch, Saul, who the Lord Jesus later,chose, (see acts chapter 9). he was approving of the stoning by laying his coat at their feet, (see Deuteronomy 17:7). and also notice as with our Lord, they took our brother Stephen outside the city and killed him.

so VJ, there is so much more to these verses than meet the eye, intercessory, repentance, profession, fulfillment, witness, acknowledgement (Lay not), salvation, faith, belief, works, and the list goes on. just look what our brother Stephen did, the same things our Lord did.

now start writing down what the Lord did, and what our brother Stephen did, one will see a pattern. start with "forgiveness", and work your way down the list.

I am shocked that what was revealed here is so easily dismissed or overlooked. There is great comfort and power in what it means pertaining to enemies...and forgiveness; The will of God.

 

[101G]

I am shocked that what was revealed here is so easily dismissed or overlooked. There is great comfort and power in what it means pertaining to enemies...and forgiveness; The will of God.

VJ, this is why we need the Holy Spirit. to reveal these treasures. yes, what is man that God is mindful of him. if our Brother Stephen can do it, "YES WE CAN". this should be the slogan of the modern day Christian, "YES WE CAN".

 

[bbyrd009]

I am shocked that what was revealed here is so easily dismissed or overlooked. There is great comfort and power in what it means pertaining to enemies...and forgiveness; The will of God.

ah cool, glad you got some kind of acknowledgement there. I've just re-read both posts and still have no idea what you are even referring to "being revealed" here!

 

[VictoryinJesus]

ah cool, glad you got some kind of acknowledgement there. I've just re-read both posts and still have no idea what you are even referring to "being revealed" here!

Acknowledgement?

If you mean drawing attention to the fact that prayer for our enemies to be forgiven holds power. Then yes, I draw attention to Stephen's cry for "forgive them for they know not what they do."

To me, that is comforting to know God's heart is not eager for punishment but to redeem. Unless we will only be satisfied with seeing our enemies punished.

To point is; rather than punished for what happened to Stephen, Saul became Paul. Redeemed. I have enemies. I don't want to see them punished. I have hope of them being redeemed instead. Is this not the territory we should want to gain; to speak within the enemy's gate.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Question:
Revelation 8:1 KJV
[1] And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

I can only think of one reason all of heaven would go completely silent for the space of half an hour. There wouldn't be anything to worship(forsaken). The crucifixion doesn't fit though, after the seven seals are open.

Any ideas why there is a silence in heaven?

 

[Helen]

Question:
Revelation 8:1 KJV
[1] And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

I can only think of one reason all of heaven would go completely silent for the space of half an hour. There wouldn't be anything to worship(forsaken). The crucifixion doesn't fit though, after the seven seals are open.

Any ideas why there is a silence in heaven?

Good question.
Hah! Greater minds than ours have studied this...many opinions ....but never any real answer.
One of the “ hidden” mysteries. :)

 

[101G]

Question:
Revelation 8:1 KJV
[1] And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

I can only think of one reason all of heaven would go completely silent for the space of half an hour. There wouldn't be anything to worship(forsaken). The crucifixion doesn't fit though, after the seven seals are open.

Any ideas why there is a silence in heaven?

I'm not sure on this verse. only as you say any ideas. don't hold me to this ok, but my opinion. to me this is in contrast to Revelation 4:5 which have voices around the throne, listen, "And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God". and spiritually speaking to me, a voice is the preaching of the Gospel, supportive scripture, Romans 10:13-18 "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world". here "SOUND" is a voice. scripture, Psalms 19:1-5 "To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard. Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun, Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race". here their LINE is the preaching of the Gospel by their measure.

now knowing all of that let's put together the significant Revelation 8:1 as to the silence in heaven about the space of half an hour". let's examine the evidence.
1. the seventh seal is open so the END have come.
2. no Sound in Heaven.
with what is given by the Scriptures, we can see by example what we believe is going on. the example is Noah. while building the ark, Noah preached, (VOICES). and when he finished building the ark, God shut him and his family up in the ark, (silence). then the wrath, as with the Lord who come at the seventh seal.

don't hold me to this, just my opinion. maybe it might help you in some area.

be blessed.

 

[bbyrd009]

imo we have Scripture about how ppl are rendered mute when they learn the truth (characterized as being "at judgement, in the afterlife" in Scripture), and even comparos with "they answered Him not a word" (the woman caught in adultery), as contrasted with "He answered them not a word," iow. Ergo "heaven was silent for a half-hour" might be a reference to the 7th seal having rendered everyone speechless.