ScottA
Well-Known Member
This matter of women in service or being silent, is answered in the mystery of marriage:
Ephesians 5:22-32
22 Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Savior of the body. 24 Therefore, just as the church is subject to Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her, 26 that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word, 27 that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish. 28 So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself. 29 For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord does the church. 30 For we are members of His body,of His flesh and of His bones. 31 “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” 32 This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
...The mystery is revealed showing that all mankind is before God, as a women is before a man. Just as Eve was taken out of Adam, the bride of Christ was taken out of Christ.
Therefore, Paul counsels at times according to what is practical among people of the church, but also what it represents before God, and how we should view our perspective rolls. This is also why the majority of the lineage of the children of God, is male...because they are rather, children of God (whom the male represents). So, then, when Paul says that women should be silent in church, it is both practical, and respective of whom should be heard in church - meaning that neither men nor women should speak, but rather God alone should speak. So, whether it is God speaking through a man serving in his roll of portraying God (just as Christ is the male husband, and the church is the female bride by example), or by the gifts of the Holy Spirit of God - it is God alone who speaks to the church.
So, Paul came along side and supported those women who God had chosen to act by the Holy Spirit, to speak, to prophesy, or even to teach. But he then does not advise nor even allow women to be chosen of the church to be leaders and teachers, because if they are not chosen by God, they do not fit the roll which God has given in the creation and in marriage, that should be respected as proper representation of God in each perspective roll. And to do otherwise would be a disservice and disrespectful of God whom has designated each roll from the beginning.
Today, it is a matter of whom one serves. If God, then do not assume the role given to men. If the Holy Spirit, then speak in tongues, or interpret tongues, or a proclaim a word from God if given. But if ones self, then keep silent, and allow God to speak.
Ephesians 5:22-32
22 Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Savior of the body. 24 Therefore, just as the church is subject to Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her, 26 that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word, 27 that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish. 28 So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself. 29 For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord does the church. 30 For we are members of His body,of His flesh and of His bones. 31 “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” 32 This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
...The mystery is revealed showing that all mankind is before God, as a women is before a man. Just as Eve was taken out of Adam, the bride of Christ was taken out of Christ.
Therefore, Paul counsels at times according to what is practical among people of the church, but also what it represents before God, and how we should view our perspective rolls. This is also why the majority of the lineage of the children of God, is male...because they are rather, children of God (whom the male represents). So, then, when Paul says that women should be silent in church, it is both practical, and respective of whom should be heard in church - meaning that neither men nor women should speak, but rather God alone should speak. So, whether it is God speaking through a man serving in his roll of portraying God (just as Christ is the male husband, and the church is the female bride by example), or by the gifts of the Holy Spirit of God - it is God alone who speaks to the church.
So, Paul came along side and supported those women who God had chosen to act by the Holy Spirit, to speak, to prophesy, or even to teach. But he then does not advise nor even allow women to be chosen of the church to be leaders and teachers, because if they are not chosen by God, they do not fit the roll which God has given in the creation and in marriage, that should be respected as proper representation of God in each perspective roll. And to do otherwise would be a disservice and disrespectful of God whom has designated each roll from the beginning.
Today, it is a matter of whom one serves. If God, then do not assume the role given to men. If the Holy Spirit, then speak in tongues, or interpret tongues, or a proclaim a word from God if given. But if ones self, then keep silent, and allow God to speak.
Last edited: