satan a creature or man without God

[bbyrd009]

I am really hoping to see something new here from the other side, but I really would be surprised if I did.

when the other side disappears and becomes your side,
the nature of the transition from one side to the other will then be appreciated there imo

 

[bbyrd009]

The thing is you have to know the basics before you can transcend them. Rejecting the building blocks before you even understand their strength and limitations is to remain in ignorance.

gotta learn the counterfeits first, ya

 

[bbyrd009]

Jude 1:9 loses meaning if angels are not real creatures.

well, "creatures" does not have to be defined so rigidly, perhaps.
You don't have to even commit to a belief here per se, as weird as that might sound at first

 

[bbyrd009]

Those verses are buildng blocks and they are part of the doctrine/dogma Passed down by the early church.

ah, the same guys who brought us the inquisitions, the crusades, and talents as gifts, neat.

sorry, couldn't help it

 

[amadeus]

@truthquest
Thank you for your input here. Strange thing I do believe in the existence of demons because so many people have witnessed them as well as what is written in scriptures. My biggest problem I guess is with the Poppa Devil or Demon. Maybe he is real too.
As to your video, I only watched the first episode. That was more than enough. I avoid the movies and programs shown on TV these days where there is so much of that [which means I don't watch much TV]. Even though these may be real happenings, I'd prefer a real encounter with God anytime over such demonic encounters. I will still continue to avoid them when I have a choice.

 

[aspen]

ah, the same guys who brought us the inquisitions, the crusades, and talents as gifts, neat.

sorry, couldn't help it

You have a better idea?

 

[twinc]

You have a better idea?

anyway who is the us = inquisition was for Catholics only and the crusades for Muslims only ect imho - twinc

 

[aspen]

anyway who is the us = inquisition was for Catholics only and the crusades for Muslims only ect imho - twinc

Also, who was the Christ represented by glowing and light

 

[Helen]

Also, who was the Christ represented by glowing and light

..mmm Do what?
That one missed me...over my head...I must be dull tonight.

 

[aspen]

..mmm Do what?
That one missed me...over my head...I must be dull tonight.

Exactly how i felt when i wrote in response to twinc’s nonsense post

 

[Helen]

Exactly how i felt when i wrote in response to twinc’s nonsense post

aah...got it..
.. I thought my mind had finally blown!

 

[bbyrd009]

Mark...I think that is probs the wises post you have ever posted!!
Well said! Excellent advice.

ty
i did like how you managed to make "confession unto salvation" into an untruth lol; that was a good one, i finally got it last night

 

[truthquest]

@truthquest
Thank you for your input here. Strange thing I do believe in the existence of demons because so many people have witnessed them as well as what is written in scriptures. My biggest problem I guess is with the Poppa Devil or Demon. Maybe he is real too.
As to your video, I only watched the first episode. That was more than enough. I avoid the movies and programs shown on TV these days where there is so much of that [which means I don't watch much TV]. Even though these may real happenings, I'd prefer a real encounter with God anytime over such demonic encounters. I will still continue to avoid them when I have a choice.

My understanding is that there is a hierarchy of demons and as you say, "Poppa Devil", I would say is the chief top demon. And he has a lot of worshippers who are used to influence people with the darkest evil imaginable. Some of them refer to themselves as Luciferians while others call themselves Satanists. I see very little difference between the two of them.
This is not something that I have to have others tell me and not something I have to see in videos or read about. I'll just say it's first hand experience, up close and personal. It is definitely spiritual warfare. It gave spiritual warfare whole new meaning to me in crystal clarity. And I wish I had never seen or experienced these things but I have. But at the same time it's something that I guess I needed to be aware of and to learn lessons from because we can learn lessons from even the worst experiences in life.
That video was actually rather mild compared to the others I watched. There's no way I could have posted those other videos on a Christian forum.
I don't watch tv either. I'm on several Christian forums and one private group and I would rather spend my spare time that way. My main focus is to try to encourage others. That's why I post so many praise videos on different forums. I also look for positive and encouraging news stories that I share. Because we get more than enough bad news already.

 

[bbyrd009]

You have a better idea?

no, the counterfeit has to be offered/learned first, for some reason i don't entirely get, plus the RCC likely served other purposes during the Dark Ages. Plus i perceive no substantial diff between them and any Prot church anyway, no one confessing to anyone at all in a Prot church i guess.

though he is the heir of everything, he is under the servants while he is still a child.

i wouldn't let them translate or interpret for me now, though; even where we agree, which is a lot of places

 

[bbyrd009]

inquisition was for Catholics only and the crusades for Muslims only

ha, more comedy, ok

 

[truthquest]

@truthquest I know it is never received well, ..because people don't understand that realm it is easier to just 'blow it off' as junk.

Having indeed like you, come face to face in combat with 'them'...we know the truth...we don't talk about it much, because who on earth wants to advertise the work of the Devil. He loves attention...but the flip side is..if no one reveals his evil Kingdom people are left clueless and ignorant, which in fact is what most want to be..ignorant or in denial .

That Priest/Pastor whatever is right...demons never want to give you their name..because once you have their name and know what nature they use, you have more power over them to get them out.
Within most bound people, we have found that the two main "door -keepers" ( first in, and last out) have the name's Fear and the name Selfpity.
These are the hardest to move out....(they have their hooks in the person and will not let go easily.)

Satan has a kingdom and it isn't 'only' the dark side of our self.

Thank you Helen.
As you know quite well, there are a lot of people needing help in spiritual warfare. That is the main point I'm trying to get across to people. It has to be taken seriously. And churches need to be equipped to deal with it.

 

[bbyrd009]

You have a better idea?

so, not sure if i'm being clear there; Catholicism is as great a discipline to come out of as Protestantism, imo

 

[lforrest]

And he has a lot of worshippers who are used to influence people with the darkest evil imaginable. Some of them refer to themselves as Luciferians while others call themselves Satanists.

There is also little difference between Luciferians and Unitarian universalists.

 

[amadeus]

so, not sure if i'm being clear there; Catholicism is as great a discipline to come out of as Protestantism, imo

Further on this although it may derail my own thread: Most of the great reformers [Protestant] started with a right idea to bring things closer to something God would approve. The trouble is when you get beyond the original reformers, most everyone else on their bandwagon wanted to or did stop. The end product was often no better and at times was even worse than where they came from. Now that could be called at least a back handed compliment for Catholicism. The parallel between the Reformation and what happened when Jeroboam separated the northern 10 tribes from Judah and Benjamin has always caught my attention.

 

[bbyrd009]

when the other side disappears and becomes your side,
the nature of the transition from one side to the other will then be appreciated there imo

(iow we all came from that "side" too)