Does God Create Evil or Not?

[bbyrd009]

Actually - this position is heresy.
God is not the author of evil - no matter how much YOU want Him to be . . ..

how do you address this then? ty

• Saying that God does not commit evil is the same as stating that there is someone or something else responsible for all the evil in the world. This intuitive bi-polar reality model is pagan (Zoroastrian, to be precise) and also dictates the intuitive truth that darkness is the opposite of light.

• The Bible sports a mono-polar reality model, which insists that God is the doer of all the doings.

 

[BreadOfLife]

how do you address this then? ty

• Saying that God does not commit evil is the same as stating that there is someone or something else responsible for all the evil in the world. This intuitive bi-polar reality model is pagan (Zoroastrian, to be precise) and also dictates the intuitive truth that darkness is the opposite of light.

• The Bible sports a mono-polar reality model, which insists that God is the doer of all the doings.

• Really?

Really??

God is an adulterer?
A liar?
A rapist?
A child molestor?
A shoplifter?
A tax cheat?

If He does ALL things then you are calling Him ALL things, Einstein . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Prove it!! LOL

I already have - multiple times.
Posts #37, 46, 53, 56 and 78 completely obliterate your flawed position.

 

[bbyrd009]

• Really?

Really??

God is an adulterer?
A liar?
A rapist?
A child molestor?
A shoplifter?
A tax cheat?

If He does ALL things then you are calling Him ALL things, Einstein . . .

;I the Lord do all these things.

which does not mean what you are implying, i am sure, but that you must reap what you sow, and these things are created by us bc we sow them.

when you make an "us" and a "them," and exclude them while including yourself, you cannot help but reap these things. And it is "those who are called by His Name" that do this, not anyone else

 

[BreadOfLife]

;I the Lord do all these things.

which does not mean what you are implying, i am sure, but that you must reap what you sow, and these things are created by us bc we sow them

So, because God says that He created light, darkness, prosperity and disaster - YOU clam that he is admitting to rape, theft, child molestation, lying and adultery??

What a crock - and typical of the manure you spread around here . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

YOU are the only one who has said that repeatedly.
Then YOU repeatedly disagree with it!
You are quoting yourself... LOL.
WEIRD!

Really?
Show me where I "disagreed" with myself, Einstein.

 

[bbyrd009]

So, because God says that He created light, darkness, prosperity and disaster - YOU clam that he is admitting to rape, theft, child molestation, lying and adultery??

no, as i said...just reply to all the stuff you ignored, and we can go from there

 

[bbyrd009]

What a crock - and typical of the manure you spread around here . . .

i don't expect an adherent of the cult of Sol to agree with me, BoL, no offense meant.
If you choose to believe that the devil can create, then bam just don't confront the OP
i understand this is a hard truth ok

 

[BreadOfLife]

;I the Lord do all these things.

which does not mean what you are implying, i am sure, but that you must reap what you sow, and these things are created by us bc we sow them.

when you make an "us" and a "them," and exclude them while including yourself, you cannot help but reap these things. And it is "those who are called by His Name" that do this, not anyone else

Since you don't seem to have the capacity to answer my questions - explain what you mean by "God created evil - but not really".

 

[Taken]

I already have - multiple times.
Posts #37, 46, 53, 56 and 78 completely obliterate your flawed position.

You do alot of claiming, but fail to PROVE what you claim.

"YOU claimed "God is not the author of evil".

So? No one claimed He was.

YOU claimed "I" really want Him to be that author...

Prove it!

 

[BreadOfLife]

You do alot of claiming, but fail to PROVE what you claim.

"YOU claimed "God is not the author of evil".

So? No one claimed He was.

YOU claimed "I" really want Him to be that author...

Prove it!

YOU claimed that God created evil.
NOT according to Scripture - so, PROVE it.

 

[BreadOfLife]

i don't expect an adherent of the cult of Sol to agree with me, BoL, no offense meant.

I almost let this go - but I decided that you should be held accountable for this nonsense.

Show me HOW I am an adherent of the "Cult of Sol."
If you can't show me - then you're more ignorant and dishonest than I gave you credit for . . .

 

[bbyrd009]

Since you don't seem to have the capacity to answer my questions - explain what you mean by "God created evil - but not really".

don't recall saying that, sorry. But i already gave a defense for it anyway, just above. And we have not even broached "who gets to define evil here" yet, see. What is evil?

 

[Taken]

Really?
Show me where I "disagreed" with myself, Einstein.

Show where ANYONE is talking about the

"author of evil"

OTHER than YOU.

Show where ANYONE has said they really want God to be or is;

"the author of evil"

Prove it!
Quote ANY OTHER with their own words saying they want or God is...

"the author of evil"

YOUR WORDS...that you are trying to vomit on others...

"the author of evil"

Those are YOUR WORDS, YOU own them...

 

[BreadOfLife]

don't recall saying that, sorry. But i already gave a defense for it anyway, just above. And we have not even broached "who gets to define evil here" yet, see. What is evil?

Uhhhh, no you didn't answer the question - and yes, you ARE saying that He created evil but "not really."
Since you are talking out of both sides of your mouth - I'll just ask you flat-out:
Did God create evil?

 

[bbyrd009]

I almost let this go - but I decided that you should be held accountable for this nonsense.

Show me HOW I am an adherent of the "Cult of Sol."
If you can't show me - then you're more ignorant and dishonest than I gave you credit for . . .

not just you ok, most any Protestant also. Anyone who believes that they are not meant for earth, and foresees some glorious life in a place now called "heaven," that can be attained only after they die. This is an ancient cult, and goes by other names also

"
The Roman Empire began their official recognition of sun worship during the time of Aurelian when he instituted the cult of "Sol Invictus". There is virtually no difference between the cult of Sol Invictus and that of Mithraism or for that matter catholicism..."
The Cult of Sol Invictus

and just cuz this guy does not recognize Nehushtan worship in Christians--by which i mean Protestants--does not mean they are immune either

 

[bbyrd009]

Uhhhh, no you didn't answer the question - and yes, you ARE saying that He created evil but "not really."
Since you are talking out of both sides of your mouth - I'll just ask you flat-out:
Did God create evil?

why ask me?

7The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the LORD who does all these. King James Bible I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Show where ANYONE is talking about the

OTHER than YOU.
Show where ANYONE has said they really want God to be or is;

Prove it!
Quote ANY OTHER with their own words saying they want or God is...

YOUR WORDS...that you are trying to vomit on others...
Those are YOUR WORDS, YOU own them...

Soooo, you believe that God created evil - but that He is not the Author of evil??
What an asinine position to take.

God created Life - and the Scriptures refer to Him as the "AUTHOR" of Life (Acts 3:15).
The creator IS the Author.

Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary
Definition of author
1: the writer of a literary work (such as a book)

• a famous author

2a : one that originates or CREATES something : source

• GOD

 

[BreadOfLife]

why ask me?

Because you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

 

[BreadOfLife]

not just you ok, most any Protestant also. Anyone who believes that they are not meant for earth, and foresees some glorious life in a place now called "heaven," that can be attained only after they die. This is an ancient cult, and goes by other names also
"The Roman Empire began their official recognition of sun worship during the time of Aurelian when he instituted the cult of "Sol Invictus". There is virtually no difference between the cult of Sol Invictus and that of Mithraism or for that matter catholicism..."
The Cult of Sol Invictus

and just cuz this guy does not recognize Nehushtan worship in Christians--by which i mean Protestants--does not mean they are immune either

And just because you read something in a book does NOT make it true.
Haven't you learned this by now??

I didn't ask you to quote a book.
I asked you to show me PROOF that I belonged to the "Cult of Sol" - and you failed . . . again.

Par for the course, my lost friend . . .