And WHEN precisely were YOU a Gentile subject to ANY of those Laws?
This would be the 10 commandments,
Ah yes. The 10 Commandments...given TO..
Hebrews in the OT.
Jews in the NT, less the Sabbath day commandment.
AND? Are you a Hebrew? Are you a Jew?
When did Scripture MAKE Gentiles Subject to those Laws?
It didn't!
the two Great Commandments Jesus left us with.
A Christian SUBJECTS Himself, BY HIS CHOICE, "TO CHRIST"....NOT Hebrew Laws, NOT Jewish Laws.......BUT TO CHIRST!
A man Calls ON Christ the Lord Jesus.
A man becomes IN Christ.
A man becomes Converted BY Christ.
A man IN Christ is a new creature...
ALL of the OLD is passed away.
Why would you keep digging up the OLD?
Why would OLD Laws, that were NEVER given you, BE relevant to a NEW man "IN CHRIST"?
A man WHO is IN Christ, is not subject to the OLD. (Applies to Jews, who accept Jesus).
A man WHO is IN Christ, WHO was NOT subject to the OLD laws, still isn't.
He is a man IN Christ, ONLY subject to Christs commandments.... LOVE the Lord and LOVE other men.....and EVEN that, is accomplished by the POWER of the Lord within a man!
§The fact the His two commandments will naturally cause one to follow the 10 means that the 10 are still in force.
All the LAWS are "still in force". Jesus did not destroy the Law. SO YES, Every Hebrew and Every Jew that rejects Jesus is Lord and the Christ....absolutely THEY are still UNDER THE LAW.
What does THAT have to do with a Gentile?
The Laws didn't apply to Gentiles.
Why do you presume they do?
Just because we're washed by the blood and can be forgiven does not mean we are allowed to lie, murder, steal, etc.
WHAT prevents you from doing such things?
Ink on paper that said to the Hebrews and Jews, don't do that?
A man WHO has subjected himself TO CHRIST, HAS that itty bitty thing within him;
Called the Spirit of the Lord.
The Spirit of the Lord.....IS POWER!
His Power is constantly FEEDING the mans new born spirit with DESIRES to Please God.
AND? Should such a man NOT listen to his new spirit....and INSTEAD listen to his MIND, that can drum up lies, deceit, corruption...
AND such man DOES such things...
THEN WHAT? Has the man SINNED? No.
Has the man been stupid and listened to his MIND instead of his new spirit in his new heart? Yes.
And? Should the man recognize his own mistake and feel stupid and feel embarrassed and feel sorry....Yes.
And? Then do what? Go run and tell the Lord he sinned? Whoops, Sin is not part of the equation.
What is the man SUPPOSED to do?
It depends on what the man DID.
WHO did he LIE TO?
He is supposed to go CONFESS his Lie to the one he LIED TO, and ask THEIR forgiveness.
IOW - A man causing grief, trespassing, harm, whatever TOWARD another man, IS his responsibility to Correct, with apologies, with paying for the expenses of the harm he caused, and that might include CIVIL penalties of money, judgements, jail time...
The SIN of a man (IN CHRIST) TOWARD God is already resolved...BY the Lord.
The TRESPASSES of a man (IN CHRIST) TOWARD other men...IS FOR the MAN to resolve.
I agree that the Old Covenant did not work and we do much better under the New Covenant, being helped by the Holy Spirit
It is the Holy Spirit that HELPS a man COME to the Lord and BECOME Converted BY the Holy Spirit, AND KEPT Converted.
It is the Holy Spirit that WILL guide a man...
IF the man is willing to LISTEN to his new spirit, being fed by the Lord, OVER his carnal mind.
It is the Holy Spirit that WILL Comfort a man, who stupidedly listens to his mind over his spirit and does dumb things, that HE will negatively be affected by.
We all sin or we make God to be a liar.
1 John 1:10
That Scripture is absolutely TRUE!!
And I have already acknowledged numerous times...
Men are naturally born IN SIN.
Men COMMIT SIN.
So, IS THAT MAKING God A liar? No.
Now WHEN a man who is naturally born in sin; GIVES his BODY of SIN for Christ to CRUCIFIY His BODY....
Where IS THAT MANS Natural born SIN that HE Admittedly HAD?
IT'S DEAD!!
Are you hanging on to DEAD SIN?
Keeping it with you?
Claiming if you don't KEEP IT WITH YOU, you making God a Liar?
How is God KILLING your body of SIN, make you a LIAR for not KEEPING your body of SIN?
After God KILLS your body of sin; He washes it in Christ's BLOOD. He sanctifies it with His Power. He keeps your FREED BODY of SIN, cleansed, and sanctified, WITH CHIRST, until the day He shall glorify that body.
So, AFTER God kills your body of SIN, and restores your Soul, quickens your Spirit, dwells within you with HIS SPIRIT....
And NOTIFIES you, you are NOW BORN from HIS incorruptable Seed, Sealed with HIS Power to forever be WITH Him....
Really? This is a man WHO does not have the Truth in Him. WHO is calling God a Liar? WHO is even capable of calling God a Liar? WHO is supposed to be HANGING on to his DEAD BODY of Sin, the the Lord crucified, cleansed, sanctified?
No. You are simply picking a Scripture that DOES NOT APPLY to a man submitted TO CHRIST, and pretending it has applicability, when it doesn't.
So moving on TO a VERSE that DOES have applicability TO A MAN WHO HAS SUBJECTED HIMSELF TO Christ, and Received their Conversion FROM the Lord.
1 John 3:9
WHOSOEVER....
(Jews who do not believe in Christ?
No.
Any Gentile who does not believe in Christ? No.
Any man who believes, BUT HAS NOT submitted to BE Converted by Christ?
No.
They ARE NOT "whosoever"!
WHO IS "whosoever"?
The man WHO believes in his heart and HAS submitted to the Lord, and received His Conversion FROM the Lord.
And WHAT ABOUT THIS SUCH MAN?
He IS FREED FROM SIN.
He has RECEIVED Gods incorruptable SEED,
ONCE, and Forever.
He CAN COMMIT SIN, "NO MORE".
He CAN NOT SIN. "ANY MORE" Period.
So, IS A MAN a LIAR, who does not believe this word of God? Yes.
So, IS A MAN making GOD A LIAR, who Does not believe Gods Word is True? Yes.
So, are you claiming you are born of Gods Seed, and still commit sin?
Wouldn't that be you making Gods Word a lie?
God Bless,
Taken