The Forty Pre-Ascension Days

[Taken]

I have found that she never preached the Gospel of Jesus Christ to anyone.
You claimed she was a missionary.
I am asking what kind of missionary?

Her missionary was about feeding the stomach's of the poor.

God's missionary is about feeding the poor in spirit.

God Bless,
Taken

 

[Webers_Home]

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According to Ps 16:8-10, Matt 12:40, and Acts 2:25-31, Christ's soul was in
the netherworld while waiting for his body's resurrection. And according to
Luke 23:43, the location was a paradise.

The only paradise I know of that satisfies those criteria is the afterlife site
where Abraham was residing in the story that's told at Luke 16:19-31. The
story is commonly referred to as a parable; but I kinda have my doubts
about it being a parable for a number of reasons.

Fiction can be defined as stories about people, places, and events that,
though untrue; are plausible; viz: realistic.

Fantasy can be defined as stories about people, places, and events that are
not only untrue; but implausible; viz: unrealistic.

For example: a story about a wooden boy like Pinocchio is unrealistic; while
a story about a boy with autism is realistic. The difference between Pinocchio
and the autistic boy is that the one is compatible with normal reality; while
the other is far removed from normal reality.

I have yet to read even one of Jesus Christ's usual parables that couldn't
possibly be a real-life story. They're all actually quite believable-- banquets,
stewards, weddings, farmers sowing seed, pearls, lost sheep, fish nets,
women losing coins, sons leaving home, wineskins bursting, tares among the
wheat, leavened bread, barren fig trees, the blind leading the blind, et al.

Now; if Christ had told a story that alleged the moon was made of green
cheese; we would have good reason to believe that at least that one was
fantasy; but none of his usual parables are like that. No; there's nothing out
of the ordinary them. At best; Christ's usual parables might qualify as
fiction; but never fantasy because none of them are so far removed from the
normal round of human experience that they have no basis in reality
whatsoever.

I think it is very safe to conclude that if Luke 16:19-31 were in fact a
parable, it would at least be based upon reality because it would be
inconsistent for all the other stories Jesus told to be realistic and then have
him tell just the one that's not.

The parable theory has a fatal flaw. Abraham is not a fictional character:
he's a real-life man; the father of the Hebrew people, held in very high
esteem by at least three of the world's prominent religions: Judaism,
Christianity, and Islam. And he's also the friend of God (Isa 41:8). I simply
cannot believe that Jesus Christ-- a man famous among normal Christians
for his honesty and integrity --would say something untrue about a famous
real-life man; especially about one of his Father's buddies.

And on top of that, the story quotes Abraham a number of times. Well; if the
story is untrue, then Jesus Christ is on record testifying that Abraham said
things that he didn't really say; which is a clear violation of the
commandment that prohibits bearing false witness.

There is something else to consider.

The story of the rich man and Lazarus didn't originate with Jesus Christ. No,
it originated with his Father. In other words: Jesus Christ was micro
managed.

● John 3:34 . . He whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God

● John 8:26 . . He that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those
things which I have heard of him.

● John 8:28 . . I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I
speak these things.

● John 12:49 . . I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me,
he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

● John 14:24 . .The word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which
sent me.

So, by alleging that Luke 16:19-31 is fiction/fantasy, the parable theory
slanders God by insinuating that He's a person of marginal integrity who
can't be trusted to tell the truth about people, not even about His own
friends.

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[BreadOfLife]

Her missionary was about feeding the stomach's of the poor.

God's missionary is about feeding the poor in spirit.

God Bless,
Taken

WRONG.

Jesus's mission was to feed them, clothe them, give them something to drink and a place to stay - as WELL as feeding them spiritually.
You only have PART of the Gospel correct.

Mother Teresa was a great example of the mercy of God.

 

[Taken]

WRONG.

.

More your negativity...just can't help yourself...true you!

Jesus's mission was to feed them, clothe them, give them something to drink and a place to stay

That's was what Jesus did for 3 years?
Uh, nah.

He was teaching things like...
If you don't take care of your own you are worse than an infidel..
1 Tim 5:8

If you don't work, you don't eat.
2 Thes 3:10

He who provides for you is your Master, and you the slave.
Col 4:1

Feed a man the Word of God, and God will be his Master and provide for him...

- as WELL as feeding them spiritually.

Well that little tid bid you add at the end, IS the Highlight...

You only have PART of the Gospel correct.

That would be you. You give a helping hand to lift them UP in spirit, so they do not show up next week and the week after and the week after STILL poor!

Mother Teresa was a great example of the mercy of God.

Whatever. I find more greatness in a man who gives out of his own, then one who collects and doles it out and is then exalted.

 

[Helen]

Her missionary was about feeding the stomach's of the poor.

God's missionary is about feeding the poor in spirit.

God Bless,
Taken

That is a good way of putting it.
She "left all" , she gave her all...yet she could never lead people to Christ because she herself said that she was still unsure.
Sad.
She will reap her reward, because even through she was still a seeker herself, EVERYTHING she did, was "in the name of the Lord."

And, to her credit, she was honest and open about her struggles.
That's how see it.

 

[Helen]

Mother Teresa was a great example of the mercy of God.

Amen...agree 100% with that comment. I believe that most of the world honoured her .

 

[Triumph1300]

There's always some christian somewhere who will tell you that she and Billy Graham are in hell.

Sad.

 

[BreadOfLife]

More your negativity...just can't help yourself...true you!
That's was what Jesus did for 3 years?
Uh, nah.

He was teaching things like...
If you don't take care of your own you are worse than an infidel..
1 Tim 5:8

If you don't work, you don't eat.
2 Thes 3:10

He who provides for you is your Master, and you the slave.
Col 4:1

Feed a man the Word of God, and God will be his Master and provide for him...
Well that little tid bid you add at the end, IS the Highlight...
That would be you. You give a helping hand to lift them UP in spirit, so they do not show up next week and the week after and the week after STILL poor!
Whatever. I find more greatness in a man who gives out of his own, then one who collects and doles it out and is then exalted.

Like I schooled you earlier - you have the Gospel PARTIALLY correct.
However - Jesus ALSO told us to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit the sick and imprisoned (Matt. 25:31-46, Luke 18:22).

In true Christian form - Mother Teresa never sought fame OR exaltation.
She simply cared for the poor and dying - like a REAL servant of God.

She didn't sit alone in a dark room on the computer trashing the servants of God like YOU.
Anyway - God finds more greatness in those who serve - rather than those who mock His servants . . .

Matt. 23:11
The greatest among you will be your servant.

 

[Helen]

There's always some christian somewhere who will tell you that she and Billy Graham are in hell.

Sad.

Yes very true.....that forget Jesus said " Judge not, that ye be not judged."
AND ..."with what measure you mete it will be measured unto you again.."

So, our judgement will come back to us..
As I have said before...God will measure our hearts...not our doctrine. :)

 

[Taken]

That is a good way of putting it.
She "left all" , she gave her all...yet she could never lead people to Christ because she herself said that she was still unsure.
Sad.
She will reap her reward, because even through she was still a seeker herself, EVERYTHING she did, was "in the name of the Lord."

And, to her credit, she was honest and open about her struggles.
That's how see it.

I will simply say, as an example, an active drug addict would not be my first choice to think he a good teacher about the perils of drug usage; but one who has overcome being an addict would be a good teacher.

IOW, the overcoming is the highlight.

Not sure how you determined WORKING for the Lord is acceptable to the Lord, BY a person who is not "sure" he IS.

Prov 3:5
TRUST in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding.

God Bless,
Taken

 

[Taken]

Like I schooled you earlier - you have the Gospel PARTIALLY correct.
However - Jesus ALSO told us to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit the sick and imprisoned (Matt. 25:31-46, Luke 18:22).

In true Christian form - Mother Teresa never sought fame OR exaltation.
She simply cared for the poor and dying - like a REAL servant of God.

She didn't sit alone in a dark room on the computer trashing the servants of God like YOU.
Anyway - God finds more greatness in those who serve - rather than those who mock His servants . . .

Matt. 23:11
The greatest among you will be your servant.

LOL - Once again you lack understanding.
How small you think and conclude.

I said nothing against charity.

You simply do not comprehend ANYONE; the faithful to God and the unfaithful to God can be charitable.

Those "without" Faith IN God, can not BE, Glorifying God BY their Works.

She, your Pope Francis declared a "saint", "even when" she struggled, with her own LACK OF FAITH.

She was a Catholic, she went through the motions expected of a Catholic Nun, she had a desire to help the needy, she succeeded in organizing help for the needy....
She didn't have Faith, by her own admission...

The Catholic Church simply capitalized on her efforts to reflect on the Church, and fabricated and bestowed "sainthood" upon her, When "saints" are reserved for the faithFUL, and she admittedly wasn't.

 

[Triumph1300]

she had a desire to help the needy, she succeeded in organizing help for the needy....

And? What's your problem with that?
Did you know this woman personally?
Seems like it by the way you yep about her.
She's probably not saved according to you.

 

[Taken]

And? What's your problem with that?

For you to ask that question, would have required me to say I had a problem with that......and I said that when?
Oh, right, I didn't!! Duh!

Did you know this woman personally?

Nope. And didn't know Paul personally either!
But there is that itty bitty thing called "their" letters!

Seems like it by the way you yep about her.

Are you the forum police that dictates who can talk about what? Pfft!

She's probably not saved according to you.

Why not shut your yap...and wait to see what is according to me, by what I say, since what you imagine is irrelevant.

 

[Triumph1300]

For you to ask that question, would have required me to say I had a problem with that......and I said that when?
Oh, right, I didn't!! Duh!

All you seem to be occupied with is posting a negative message about this lady.
Makes me wonder why.
Any more people who are helping the poor on your list?

 

[BreadOfLife]

LOL - Once again you lack understanding.
How small you think and conclude.
I said nothing against charity.
You simply do not comprehend ANYONE; the faithful to God and the unfaithful to God can be charitable.

Those "without" Faith IN God, can not BE, Glorifying God BY their Works.

She, your Pope Francis declared a "saint", "even when" she struggled, with her own LACK OF FAITH.

She was a Catholic, she went through the motions expected of a Catholic Nun, she had a desire to help the needy, she succeeded in organizing help for the needy....
She didn't have Faith, by her own admission...

The Catholic Church simply capitalized on her efforts to reflect on the Church, and fabricated and bestowed "sainthood" upon her, When "saints" are reserved for the faithFUL, and she admittedly wasn't.

What an ignorant load of manure . . .

Mother Teresa had mountains of faith. She simply suffered with clinical depression because she was constantly surrounded by poverty, disease and death. YOU wouldn't have ANY idea what that is like or what she went through.

Sitting alone in a room on your computer condemning the true servants of God is pathetic.
Here are some Christ-like quotes from this holy woman of faith who YOU arrogantly condemn as having "no" faith . . .


“Prayer is not asking. Prayer is putting oneself in the hands of God, at His disposition, and listening to His voice in the depth of our hearts.”
- Mother Teresa

"Each one of them is Jesus in disguise. "
- Mother Teresa

“At the end of life we will not be judged by how many diplomas we have received, how much money we have made, how many great things we have done. We will be judged by "I was hungry, and you gave me something to eat, I was naked and you clothed me. I was homeless, and you took me in.”
- Mother Teresa

"There is always the danger that we may just do the work for the sake of the work. This is where the respect and the love and the devotion come in - that we do it to God, to Christ, and that's why we try to do it as beautifully as possible. "
- Mother Teresa

"Let us more and more insist on raising funds of love, of kindness, of understanding, of peace. Money will come if we seek first the Kingdom of God - the rest will be given."
- Mother Teresa

"Many people mistake our work for our vocation. Our vocation is the love of Jesus."
- Mother Teresa

"Let us touch the dying, the poor, the lonely and the unwanted according to the graces we have received and let us not be ashamed or slow to do the humble work."
- Mother Teresa

"Words which do not give the light of Christ increase the darkness."
- Mother Teresa

"The biggest disease today is not leprosy or tuberculosis, but rather the feeling of being unwanted."
- Mother Teresa

 

[Taken]

All you seem to be occupied with is posting a negative message about this lady.
Makes me wonder why.
Any more people who are helping the poor on your list?

I said what I wanted to say and moved on.
Hardly a preoccupation!
Why do you keep talking about her?
She wasn't sure of her own faith, and the Catholics declared her a saint.
Very odd!

I acknowledged her charitable works, and also acknowledged, Doing charitable works is not the criteria for "sainthood";
FAITH in Christ IS!

I don't require to have a list or be on a list.
I know what I do to help others.
And the Lord knows.
You can get your fame and recognition on earth and THAT be your glory...
Or not be a showboat and receive your reward from God.
I am content with the latter.

 

[Triumph1300]

I know what I do to help others.

Where?
I don't see you helping anybody around here.

 

[Taken]

Where?
I don't see you helping anybody around here.

I don't see

The blind can not see.

God Bless,
Taken

 

[BreadOfLife]

The blind can not see.

John 9:41
“If you were blind, you would have no sin; but now you are saying, ‘We see,’ so YOUR sin remains.

 

[Taken]

John 9:41
“If you were blind, you would have no sin; but now you are saying, ‘We see,’ so YOUR sin remains.

And your context is regarding my statement, of a man who claims to not SEE works of another man he does not know and has never seen?

LOL...silly boy.

I am BLIND to my sins...DUH ... they forgiven and covered.
The Lord remembers my sins no more, and neither do I.

You are the one WHO SEES.
You are the one WHO wags his finger and flaps his tongue yelling, and dictating who YOU are declaring is sinning; and even yourself YOU proclaim YOU sin.

Well goodie for you. That's YOU.

Your wagging tongue and accusations have none affect or effect on me.

I already KNOW how the Lord has dealt with my sins....and I already KNOW, I sin no more.

You should be concerned with yourself, before you waste your time badmouthing others.