Trust me, I don't know what I'm doing here.It seems you have an axe to grind with someone that does not say the words you want to hear. Is that's why you came on this site?
APAK
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Trust me, I don't know what I'm doing here.It seems you have an axe to grind with someone that does not say the words you want to hear. Is that's why you came on this site?
APAK
Jesus never imparted peace, joy or contentment in my 14 year's of my Christianity. Everything the Bible promised me as a believer never came to pass. In the end I had to give it all up and find my own peace and contentment.
Jesus never imparted peace, joy or contentment in my 14 year's of my Christianity. Everything the Bible promised me as a believer never came to pass. In the end I had to give it all up and find my own peace and contentment.
Jesus never imparted peace, joy or contentment in my 14 year's of my Christianity. Everything the Bible promised me as a believer never came to pass. In the end I had to give it all up and find my own peace and contentment.
Not when I had to believe it, no, I could never prove that I was forgiven. I just had to take it all on faith, I'd have to believe and leave my brain at the door.So the idea of being forgiven and reconciled to your maker didn't bring you contentment? I think maybe you were seeking the wrong kind of contentment.
Not when I had to believe it, no, I could never prove that I was forgiven. I just had to take it all on faith, I'd have to believe and leave my brain at the door.
Empirical evidence, that can't be dismissed by me or anyone. The kind of proof that unifies all believers into one body, rather than break them all up into squabbling faction's.Faith plays an integral role in salvation. Faith is the instrument by which we are forgiven. What kind of proof are you looking for?
Empirical evidence, that can't be dismissed by me or anyone. The kind of proof that unifies all believers into one body, rather than break them all up into squabbling faction's.
This is not about that, it's about the Bible making promises to the believer that doesn't get met. Giving certainties that some experience and other's don't. I keep running into Christians who have nothing but disharmony with their faith, and other Christians who have all the harmony in the world. Both types believe and have faith, but they are effected differently. It's as if the concepts that people take away from the Bible doesn't work in the same way.A whole 14 years of life eh.
One thing everyone seems to forget is that God is not a Santa Clause where we say- "I have been a good girl, so give me what I want."
The Bible should prove itself by the fact that by applying it's methods will have the same effect on people across the board. Not this hit and miss afair that I see that Christian's experience. I did all the right thing's, asked Jesus for his spirit, repented, humbly excepted the Bible, believed to the best of my ability. But something went horribly wrong for me, it was like I took a poison pill, and what was meant to cure me made me more sick.Just to clarify... are you looking for empirical evidence of forgiveness or the Biblical claims regarding Christ's life and work?
it was like I took a poison pill, and what was meant to cure me made me more sick.
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Your opening posts say " so many questions" blah blah blah...
But lets be honest , you have already made up your mind about God, the bible, and Christians. You haven't really got any questions, obviously you just signed into this site to moan and complain about God.
Well, be my guessed..you are very free to do that.
Have a good day.
The Bible should prove itself by the fact that by applying it's methods will have the same effect on people across the board. Not this hit and miss afair that I see that Christian's experience. I did all the right thing's, asked Jesus for his spirit, repented, humbly excepted the Bible, believed to the best of my ability. But something went horribly wrong for me, it was like I took a poison pill, and what was meant to cure me made me more sick.
I just never acquired victory in Jesus.Can I ask you what you mean here?
What do you want to do then? Do you want to believe in the son of God and what he did for you and me? What is the next step for you? You know that giving your life to Christ is a life-long commitment? Do you want to make this commitment or not?I just never acquired victory in Jesus.
The Bible should prove itself by the fact that by applying it's methods will have the same effect on people across the board. Not this hit and miss afair that I see that Christian's experience. I did all the right thing's, asked Jesus for his spirit, repented, humbly excepted the Bible, believed to the best of my ability. But something went horribly wrong for me, it was like I took a poison pill, and what was meant to cure me made me more sick.
If you look and do some research on this, you'll be faced with many testimonies of Christian's who can't seem to conquer certain issues that plague them. The common response to those Christian's is to put the blame on their faith (Or lack of it) They haven't prayed enough, they're not using the Bible properly, their not trusting in Jesus and his power.Maybe a concrete example of your experience would be helpful.
I thought I already tried that.What do you want to do then? Do you want to believe in the son of God and what he did for you and me? What is the next step for you? You know that giving your life to Christ is a life-long commitment? Do you want to make this commitment or not?
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Deuteronomy 10:17I know my boss from work, he has kids and they also know him, he has neighbors and friends who know him as well. Does he treat his friends the same way as his kids or underlings? No, the relationship determines the interaction.
What do you mean by "what was meant to cure me made me more sick."